The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 01:41 PM

The "460 barrier" is to do with the way the 2 separate cores interract with each other and with the northbridge/ram.

Each core is slightly different, and as such while a voltage may allow one core to work perfectly, the other core may be too high or too low. You need to find the sweetspot using a combination of vCore, vPLL, vNB and vFSBT...

The Anandtech settings took me to 470MHz stable with my Quad, but 1MHz more and it loses the stabilty! Tweaks upwards slowly of the Anandtech settings and take it in baby steps.

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by vegettoxp

Hey Guys can someone comment on the revision change. I just got the board last week. I guess my question is, What's the BIG difference between the revision changes? And does it have a BIG Impact or not? Your Thoughts?

P.S. Fusion

The revision change is the first thing I comment on in the first post. Please read it. The idea of this thread was to keep it current and uptodate! If people continue to ask questions they can easily answer themselves, there is no point in this thread being here...

/rant

**pazza316** · 12-04-2007, 02:13 PM

This is a great thread excellent work. Could anyone posting settings also put what Bios they are using as I know the each bios has its own settings for stability and each revision is far from being equal.

**~~Grnfinger~~** · 12-04-2007, 02:20 PM

Excellent work Kup!

So is this the new thread or just the facts?

**vegettoxp** · 12-04-2007, 02:28 PM

Sorry KUP and I will read your post. Thx for the thread!

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 02:39 PM

I'm trying to keep the thread about the facts. Feel free to contribute and to amend?

**S1mon-** · 12-04-2007, 02:51 PM

Nice thread, I like that

**simonmaltby** · 12-04-2007, 02:55 PM

I 've only had my Maximus for a few days and have to say its a joy... the bios is very wide ranging, and therefore hard to set up, but the features make it worthwhile in my opinion.

I got my Retail QX9650 today and thought i would comment on the board and the QX9650.

Once i had it running Prime stable (1 hour at least) at 4Ghz with only 1.31 vcore true (very basic water doing a big loop of CPU, Chipset and 2xGPU's). I set about getting the magic sub 10 second super Pi 1M.

Without wanting to push the chip volts too far i decided to max at 1.5 bios 1.475 windows reported. I started at 400FB with an 11x Multi. An then overclocked from there.

Side note SETFSB works really well on this board. I got to 420 x 11 = 4620Mhz. Very unstable but just ok to run superPi

Because i was so close with scores of 10.041 and alike i tried different FSB / multi combinations to see what happened.

I tried 462FB first of all. This was less impossible unless i raised the North Bridge and FSB voltages. But after that it was just as satble as 420FSB, but it did not yield any additional superPi score.

Then i tried the other way 385FB - again i got the same result.

I finally managed the sub 10 sec. by coaxing an extra 2Mhz at 422FSB and got 9.984 score.

The morral here seems to be that, for me anyway, the difference in FSB seems to make no difference in superPi. I know its only one test, but still.

**ElEctric_EyE** · 12-04-2007, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by kup

The revision change is the first thing I comment on in the first post. Please read it. The idea of this thread was to keep it current and uptodate! If people continue to ask questions they can easily answer themselves, there is no point in this thread being here...

/rant

yeah man I agree, you started this thread so you should maybe ask admin here to erase some of this BS. This rant/rave is for the original 5000+ post thread... consider this a rant/rave post as well...

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

The voltages are much too high for a c2d and I use aircooling only, that settings aren`t that good for dualcore-users I guess. For 500busspeed and 1200Ram I only need 1,30NB and 1,42VFSB.

The settings linked are not my own, they are the experiences and trials of other Dual Core users. The Anandtech settings are also a starting point, planned around a Quad Core, but can easily be adjusted to suit Dual Core.

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 03:31 PM

Master FTP link corrected with Taiwanese server.

**TheSamurai** · 12-04-2007, 03:52 PM

can someone help me over clock to 2.5?

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 04:01 PM

Overclock to 2.5GHz? Dude...?

**leoftw** · 12-04-2007, 04:06 PM

what the lol ?

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 05:06 PM

The idea of this thread was to keep all information in 1 or 2 key posts. I can update the first post daily with new information, downloads and settings.

Results are good too!

**~~Grnfinger~~** · 12-04-2007, 05:32 PM

Here is a 3.4GHz setting 425x8
12 hour prime stable and 1 hour OCCT stable ( sorry Crysis is calling )

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( you may need to adjust this )
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

If this is in the wrong thread I'm sorry

**pphx459** · 12-04-2007, 06:07 PM

Damn nice thread Kup! Wish you made it earlier, I read through all those freakin 150+ pages..

**pphx459** · 12-04-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by leoftw

Those were listed in the last thread and I tried every single one of those .

I tried 450x8 ; 400x9 ; and they wouldn't even boot. I accidentally hit 450x9 once because I forgot to change the multiplier to 8 and I ended up booting stable with 4GHZ on air . I got scared because the temps were too high so I shut down but there was no way I could get it to 3.6

I'm sure you can get 400x9, it seems that this is a default for them Q6600's and this board. I tried 3 different cpu's and they all hit this without much voltage.

**ElEctric_EyE** · 12-04-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Here is a 3.4GHz setting 425x8
12 hour prime stable and 1 hour OCCT stable ( sorry Crysis is calling )

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( you may need to adjust this )
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

If this is in the wrong thread I'm sorry

Now that's what I'm talkin about! I ain't up to an hour yet...

**pphx459** · 12-04-2007, 06:16 PM

Working on 450x9 but here's 400x9:

Bios: 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.331 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 06:17 PM

First thread updated with Grnfinger's settings for 425x8.

**pphx459** · 12-04-2007, 06:19 PM

oh hey, maybe you want to add the bios version in the template..

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 06:19 PM

Updated with settings from pphx459.

**kup** · 12-04-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by pphx459

oh hey, maybe you want to add the bios version in the template..

The Anandtech template works with pretty much every bios version. The user defined settings generally state which bios version they use.

**S1mon-** · 12-04-2007, 06:38 PM

Here's my 24/7 settings for 450 x 8:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.30 (1.288V real) (you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.58V real)
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 (2.22V real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46 (1.50V real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125 (got 5 satas)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60

The CPU and RAM voltages are the lowest settings for P95 stability... I haven't tried lower for the vNB, vFSB, vSB and PLL... I will eventually

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