The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[atomica]

is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?

thanks

[ante_ante]

is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?

thanks

Yes, u can return back to MF i you want...

[p2501]

is the Rampage Bios more stable? and once you go rampage, is it possible to revert back to maximus formula?

thanks

Did you bother to look at this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580

[Grnfinger]

What BIOS is best now? And how are they clocking with the wolfdales? Just ordered my self an e8400 and I never really spent any time with this board, been out of the computer loop.

1004 and your 8400 will play very nice.
for MF 1004 is the best to date imo for 45nm

[ElEctric_EyE]

just so everyone knows; it look like ASUS has password locked their FTP...

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...aximus_Formula

whats the deal ?

Dammit, it is locked... Guess they don't need us anymore.

[newls1]

Here is my own observation of Performance level and Pull-In. When performance level is set to x and all pull in are enabled my bandwidth scores are the same as PL X - 1 with all Pull In disabled. Therefore PL7 Enabled performs like PL6 Disabled. (Or you could almost view it as Pull In Enabled = 0.5 lower PL, in the above example PL7 Enabled would be PL6.5).

In any case my sticks of RAM ran at a certain speed with PL7 on the MF1004 BIOS. In order to achieve the same speed stable on the Rampage I had to use PL8 Enabled. Even though I went up (relaxed) a Performance Level I still got the same scores in the Everest cache and mem benchmark.

As for your dividers issue, I suspect that you may need to relax a few settings for now to test things out. Try PL7, Pull in disabled, Twister to Moderate and run a lower FSB with a divider pushing the RAM higher. Also give your NB a touch more voltage. I can get all dividers working with no problems, assuming it doesn't push my RAM over a known limit to which I've previously tested stable to. Dividers were fine for me on the MF bioses as well.

OK, so if I understand what you just told me, If I disable the pull in options, I can gain some more stability? Thanks

[[timko]]

OK, so if I understand what you just told me, If I disable the pull in options, I can gain some more stability? Thanks

Yes. Also, if relaxing the PL to 7, 8 or more with disabled doesn't allow you to use other straps and dividers then list out the important bios settings here (like XtremeTiramisu has done here) or take screenshots of it and upload them (like ericab has done here) and then we can take a look at what might be going wrong

[malik22]

Hi guys


Im about to get this board but have a question my memory is
4gb 4x1 of corsair twinx2 6400C4 will I have any issues with this board?I had a Asus P5E one month ago that shipped with like the third bios and two of my sticks would give constant errors in memtest so I was about to rma the ram when I found a person with the same board same ram and same issue his solution was to flash to the initial bios which I did and never got the erorrs again.Since the boards are similar wanted to make sure I would have the same issues.

[Zucker2k]

Looks like Asus got pissed about all the Maximuses and P5Es transforming themselves into Rampages and back. I wonder how long it takes for latest Rampage bios? I popped in one of my L737Bs yesterday just to see how well the Rampage handles quads and I found MF 1004 bios still handled the quad better. So at this point, I'm gonna have to wait for another bios.

[Brick_top]

Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?

[Brama]

Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?

You can disable in BIOS the sensors OPT 1/2/3 and any hardware that is not present in P5E.
You can reprogram your P5E BIOS with same commands of AFUDOS, changing only the name of the BIOS image.

[Brick_top]

You can disable in BIOS the sensors OPT 1/2/3 and any hardware that is not present in P5E.
You can reprogram your P5E BIOS with same commands of AFUDOS, changing only the name of the BIOS image.

You mean my board doesn't have any real overheat? its only that those sensors are reporting numbers for hardware that doesn't exist? I don't understand that second part about afudos, Its the first time I use it... sorry,

edit - I think I now understand, you mean I can use afudos to flash back to my original bios just as I flashed to the rampage bios? but can you tell me if there is any real overheat or not?

[Brama]

You mean my board doesn't have any real overheat? its only that those sensors are reporting numbers for hardware that doesn't exist? I don't understand that second part about afudos, Its the first time I use it... sorry,

edit - I think I now understand, you mean I can use afudos to flash back to my original bios just as I flashed to the rampage bios? but can you tell me if there is any real overheat or not?

OPT 1/2/3 are Rampage otional temp sensors that don't exist at all in P5E.
You don' have any overheat in your rig.

I confirm that the procedure to revert to original BIOS is the same as you did to program Rampage BIOS in your P5E.
Only the name of the BIOS image has to be modified in the command string of AFUDOS.

[Brama]

I'm just curious, cause I see only the score numbers but hear nothing about the real world Office or Adobe apps benifits.

I suggest to buy a MAC.

[Brama]

Hi guys


Im about to get this board but have a question my memory is
4gb 4x1 of corsair twinx2 6400C4 will I have any issues with this board?I had a Asus P5E one month ago that shipped with like the third bios and two of my sticks would give constant errors in memtest so I was about to rma the ram when I found a person with the same board same ram and same issue his solution was to flash to the initial bios which I did and never got the erorrs again.Since the boards are similar wanted to make sure I would have the same issues.

I suggest to get latest memtest86+ and check again.
A lot of false errors were detected by a relative new version of memtest (without +).

[iadstudio]

Anyone have results with the 1004 bios while using 8GB of ram?

I haven't pushed it much yet since I'm rebuilding my loop and a new case, but I'll put some numbers up as soon as I do.

[hutkikz]

I suggest to buy a MAC.

First Post & noob oc'er
I have this memory and was having problems too. (post hang at "countmem",random errors in memtest 86+) My mobo came w\ bios 0602 and I worked my way up to 1004 and was about to try rampage bios when I saw Kup's post on 0505 being good for 8gb's mem, so I tried it last weekend and now everything works perfectly(passed 12hrs memtest86+)Thanks Kup

BTW new mem arrived today

[mazda_626]

Hi everyone, Yesterday I flashed my Asus p5e with the rampage formula bios but now when I boot I receive the message that it has detected an overheat in OPT1, if I go into the hardware monitor option in the bios I see some red numbers at 125ºC. Is there any way to flash back to my regular bios?

the maximus formula also has three fan power ports that have the option to fit thermal sensors (still havent found any sensors that actually work), so it is perfectly safe to disable the opt1/opt2/opt3 sensors in the bios. It's becuase you dont even have the optional thermal sensor ports, so dont panic.


In regards to the RF0219 bios, i goofed. my previous post reported a lower overclock and certian settings wont work, so i flashed back to the MF0907 and found i still couldnt run 3.4Ghz stable.
I also found i just couldnt reach the previous settings i had before, i.e. tREF, Dimm clock fine delay, tWTR which all apear to be auto set by the bios. It didnt matter what setting or speeds i ran at.
edit: I've found tREF changes automatically with the ram divider so 1:1 isnt as stable for me but 5:8 is.
I'm now back to the RF0219 becuase i have now realised where i went wrong.
I remembered to reset the cmos after the flash, I reset the bios with F5 then restarted but where i think i went wrong is i booted into windows overclocked.

I am purely at stock settings (all on auto) and have o/c'd since the second reflash to RF0219 and now i am seeing the old settings. when i overclocked then went back to stock, i couldnt get the old settings.
so now i will slowly increase my settings over the next couple of days.

thought i'd share my experience, i'm use to being able to flash and set then reboot. it appears there are many options that this board does automatically behind the scenes. so the first successful boot into the OS must be at stock clocks

but i can also confirm, you can go back to the maximus formula bios with ease

[me3850]

hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much

[nick2crete]

Now find me a way to turn my P5e3 dLX into p5e3 premium

That would be nice for all P5E3 Dlx owners ...but we have already one unsuccessful attempt , http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=777

[iadstudio]

hi there i have one question:
i have asus maximus formula 1004 with G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ but when i try to set fsb higher of 266 cause error on goldmemory test with other memory not have this is problem...i have tried many setting fsb voltage 1.5 nb 1.6 trfc high 60 80...but after 40min the mem cause error... Any of you know how I can resolve? thanks very much

You'll need to post your bios settings.

[Leeghoofd]

Prolly one bad stick mate... also do you keep the sticks at 1000mhz or do you let the bios do it ?

[me3850]

q6600 vid 1.3125

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

have try pdf setting of gskill 333 fsb 266 strap and 2.0v error but i try 266 fsb defalut (q6600) and ram at 1030~ work good no error or try 250fsb and 1000mhz ram work good when try 333 strap 266 ram 1002mhz error ect 400 400 error 333 333 error.... i try many software prime occt memtest and other but no error for 24h but with this software goldmemory after 40m have error... In fact I have several crashes in games and other unusual things

sorry for my bad english :p

[Signal64]

Are the release notes for the different BIOS's available?
Didn't see anything on the ASUS Download page or on the FTP site.

[Leeghoofd]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 -- SET 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1052 -- run closer to 1000mhz or underclock
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto -- 55
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto -- Disable
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto -- Disable
Relax level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : auto -- SET 1.5 : this setting overvolts 2
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45 or i have try 1.6 nothing
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 -- Be carefull this is 2.12 in reality !!!
FSB Termination Voltage : auto (1.52)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5