The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Barr3l Rid3r]

1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL

Try 1,41 in NB to see if it works... I run a 100% stable 530Mhz fsb using 1.39v...

[Grnfinger]

The only problem is you have you GTL refs wrong
X67 for 45nm c2d is to high, x63 is the correct setting.
X67 for the NB will allow lower volts

[Furiøùs]

i dont have the E8400 anymore. using a Q6600 at 3.7Ghz now hehe

[Grnfinger]

Impressive, +.5 multi makes a lot of difference. Not too impressive on the fsb side, but who cares is you can get it stable?

Just ordered another rampage today.

It's been crazy at my house the last week or so, I havent really had a chance to find max FSB, I am hoping to get a few hours to myself and tweak the hell out of this board.
Still learning it tho, a few options I have to find out what they do and how to use them properly.

I was going to part with my 8600 but now I'm not sure, did a quick run with it on the new board and I hit 5200MHz not stable but I'm positive I could have atleast a 4800 if not a 5000 24/7 machine.

[freyesm]

Hi,

I need help with my P5E, I tried both Rampage 0408 and Deluxe 0205, in both I can go just until 435x8 (Q9450), anything after that, isn't stable at all on Windows.

I know some users here are on Q9450 with 3.6GHz or better, I want at least 3.6GHz.

Gradius

[The Nemesis]

Hi,

I need help with my P5E, I tried both Rampage 0408 and Deluxe 0205, in both I can go just until 435x8 (Q9450), anything after that, isn't stable at all on Windows.

I know some users here are on Q9450 with 3.6GHz or better, I want at least 3.6GHz.

Gradius

That's common some boards based on the x38 & P35 chipset simply will not go over 435FSB no matter what you do.(Well extreme voltages might force it) I have two P35 boards, one will not go over 435, the other does 475 3DMark & OCCT stable. My x38 board will not go over 435FSB at all. The x48 chipset reaches 450+ more commonly

[bmg]

After switching from the Maximus bios to the Rampage bios, will the OS redetect and reinstall everything, or is the bios switch pretty transparent to the OS? I'm guessing the OS will see it like a completely different motherboard, but I'm sure someone can tell me for sure.

[panheimer]

1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL

thanks again! this evening i'll try your settings to see if they works for me too!

[The Nemesis]

After switching from the Maximus bios to the Rampage bios, will the OS redetect and reinstall everything, or is the bios switch pretty transparent to the OS? I'm guessing the OS will see it like a completely different motherboard, but I'm sure someone can tell me for sure.

nothing as far as drivers changed from what I remember.

[les_paulde]

i dont have the E8400 anymore. using a Q6600 at 3.7Ghz now hehe

Nice overclock!

What voltage are you using on the CPU and which stepping do you have? I'm curious as it seems I've hit a wall with mine running at 3.7 @ 1.53V. I can probably still lower my Vcore a little bit but haven't gotten around to that and it idles at a nice 30-35C with the CPU only hitting 65C when I prime it with the full 4 cores... My FSB i've gotten stable to 450mhz on this board...

[HellasVagabond]

Guys whats the Latest bios for the Maximus formula ? Are we still at the 1102/1201 Bioses ?

Edit : I just saw the 1207 version...All thats left is for ASUS to make it available again since i cant DL it from their FTP.....

[Furiøùs]

1207 is the latest BIOS version for Maximus Formula.
Honestly, i recommend flashing to a Rampage Formula. 25-50FPS increases, lower voltages all around and honestly a better running board.

If you DO choose to flash to the rampage, i suggest the 0308 bios as long as your not running an E0 stepping chip. Great memory bandwith and high stability with this bios.

[Furiøùs]

Nice overclock!

What voltage are you using on the CPU and which stepping do you have? I'm curious as it seems I've hit a wall with mine running at 3.7 @ 1.53V. I can probably still lower my Vcore a little bit but haven't gotten around to that and it idles at a nice 30-35C with the CPU only hitting 65C when I prime it with the full 4 cores... My FSB i've gotten stable to 450mhz on this board...

Im doing 1.4875 in the bios with LLC enabled.

my stepping is a L726A880
1.2750 VID

I think i can get 3.8Ghz stable with 1.52-1.53 but honestly whats the point in putting that much voltage for an extra 100Mhz

[kup]

Im doing 1.4875 in the bios with LLC enabled.

my stepping is a L726A880
1.2750 VID

I think i can get 3.8Ghz stable with 1.52-1.53 but honestly whats the point in putting that much voltage for an extra 100Mhz

L726A854, 1.275v here. 3.7GHz with 1.44v. Give it a push, it's worth it!!!

[Furiøùs]

Hmm.. well yea i booted up this morning and was welcomed to a blue screen! trying to figure out what the heck is wrong right now, cause it ran perfect yesterday. i think the FSB termination is too low, and thinking about touching the CPU PLL

FSB Termination is @ 1.32v in bios whitch overvolts to 1.36v
CPU PLL is @ 1.5v in bios whitch overvolts to 1.6v

Thinking about bumping FSB Termination to 1.45 maybe higher and CPU PLL to 1.55 in bios (1.65 should be underload)

[Furiøùs]

Oh and one question. for CPU GTL Reference what should i set it to? i have it at 67x

[hkrack]

Hi, i need help!!!

I can not stabilize my system to 3.6. I want to help one and a guidance if with some setting wrong.

The computer starts the windows and then crash or restart.

Below my setup on the computer's signature:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronguer
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO OR x.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO OR x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Furiøùs]

CPU PLL is very high. at the lowest BIOS setting (1.5) it overvolts to 1.6v
So having it at 1.56 is 1.66v and thats really high, danger of burning the chip up quickly.

Im having the same problem as you, i get either a blue screen 0x000000240 or somethin or i get a auto-reboot. now i just solved it and i had to up my vCore. instead of 1.4875 im now at 1.525... damn

Im still thinking about raising the PLL to 1.65 possibly.. not sure

[freyesm]

That's common some boards based on the x38 & P35 chipset simply will not go over 435FSB no matter what you do.(Well extreme voltages might force it) I have two P35 boards, one will not go over 435, the other does 475 3DMark & OCCT stable. My x38 board will not go over 435FSB at all. The x48 chipset reaches 450+ more commonly

Well, P5E is x38 based.

However this is odd, since a lot are getting 3.6GHz with a Q6600 (on P5E), so 3.6-2.4 = 1.2GHz and I'm getting just 3.48-2.66 = 820MHz !

The only real difference I can see is FSB (1066MHz vs 1333MHz), besides 65nm vs 45nm (I get just 48C under full load and overclocked, it never goes above 48C).

Gradius

[_JP_]

Well, P5E is x38 based.

However this is odd, since a lot are getting 3.6GHz with a Q6600 (on P5E), so 3.6-2.4 = 1.2GHz and I'm getting just 3.48-2.66 = 820MHz !

The only real difference I can see is FSB (1066MHz vs 1333MHz), besides 65nm vs 45nm (I get just 48C under full load and overclocked, it never goes above 48C).

Gradius

You cannot see for the amount of overclock you get from the chip.

The real problem is the fsb limit in boards(chipsets), and sometimes cpu fsb limit...

With Q6600 you go to 3.6Ghz easy with 9*400...but for Q9450 you have to use 435*8 to have 3.48Ghz...
You have to use more fsb and maybe thats the limit

[RCG_Bex]

E8600 just booted @ 4.8Ghz!!! Little bit too hot a waterblock that isn't seated properly though >.<

1.48v so I think it's about par with what it should take. It might go with a little lower but not sure yet...

~Bex

[hkrack]

Hello, is the CPU GTL Reference or the North Bridge GTL Reference influence on the stability of over?

CPU PLL is very high. at the lowest BIOS setting (1.5) it overvolts to 1.6v
So having it at 1.56 is 1.66v and thats really high, danger of burning the chip up quickly.

Im having the same problem as you, i get either a blue screen 0x000000240 or somethin or i get a auto-reboot. now i just solved it and i had to up my vCore. instead of 1.4875 im now at 1.525... damn

Im still thinking about raising the PLL to 1.65 possibly.. not sure

[CBird28]

You can load updated iastor drivers during the initial install stage. Also, could be a bad oc.

is the problem well known then? when i turn on my pc in the morning from a cold boot, i get 3/4 bsods within 5/10 mins

reinstalled vista twice, and tried 3 different versions on matrix drivers.

its not my overclock as it does it with everything default


I wonder if its worth an rma, no doubt having to pay for the postage to send it back to me as there were "no faults"

[freyesm]

You cannot see for the amount of overclock you get from the chip.

The real problem is the fsb limit in boards(chipsets), and sometimes cpu fsb limit...

With Q6600 you go to 3.6Ghz easy with 9*400...but for Q9450 you have to use 435*8 to have 3.48Ghz...
You have to use more fsb and maybe thats the limit

Hmm, I guess I managed 440x8 now (3.52GHz).

Btw, is normal Core #0 to get this hot?

After 10min on Prime95 test:
Core #0: 71C
Core #1: 65C
Core #2: 68C
Core #3: 65C

Gradius

[freyesm]

After 43min:



So far so good.

Before, a mere 436x8 would crash everything in couple seconds!

Gradius