The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[RCG_Bex]

*bashes head repeatedly* I HATE THIS BIOS!!!! It's so frickin crap! Tried ll sorts of straps and voltages and it just goes "DET RAM" - the only 1 I can get to work and it's also 100% stress stable is this

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1203
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.2365 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

As soon as I touch anything else it hates me. I did at 1 point get the 1st memory option running (I'm using the 2nd option) but I needed to set the ram manually (even though it's the exact same settings as they are automaticaly) and set the ram voltages to something like 2.2v and even then although it got past without DET RAM error, it wouldn't boot, just blue screened. Went backa nd tweaked the rest againa nd again and again but nope, not a single boot out of any of it. :'(

This other thing that concerns me is that I've suddenly got an even bigger v-droop. I put 1.23... v for CPU and it's running 1.92v - it was the 1 below that I'm sure but if I use that it now says 1.16v

Any ideas?

~Bex

[askimo]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 8/7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50


suggestions are in bold

Tks I will give it a try tonight

[steve30x]

What ifference will it make to go from the formula bios to the rampage bios on this mainboard?

[kup]

If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the ing thread!

[RCG_Bex]

ROFLMAO! Well said Kup

~Bex

[Stanley Pain]

*bashes head repeatedly* I HATE THIS BIOS!!!! It's so frickin crap! Tried ll sorts of straps and voltages and it just goes "DET RAM" - the only 1 I can get to work and it's also 100% stress stable is this

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1203
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.2365 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

As soon as I touch anything else it hates me. I did at 1 point get the 1st memory option running (I'm using the 2nd option) but I needed to set the ram manually (even though it's the exact same settings as they are automaticaly) and set the ram voltages to something like 2.2v and even then although it got past without DET RAM error, it wouldn't boot, just blue screened. Went backa nd tweaked the rest againa nd again and again but nope, not a single boot out of any of it. :'(

This other thing that concerns me is that I've suddenly got an even bigger v-droop. I put 1.23... v for CPU and it's running 1.92v - it was the 1 below that I'm sure but if I use that it now says 1.16v

Any ideas?

~Bex

What brand of RAM do you have? I had the same issue until I RMAd my Corsair Quads for a newer revision and they have been working beautifully.

[RCG_Bex]

Adata Extreme 1200 (2x 1GB)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Adata Extreme 1200 (2x 1GB)

~Bex

To much auto settings there, post your complete bios setup and we can tweak it.

ALL straps work on this board, any det dram hangs are incorrect ram setting usually a wrong PL setting, this is why auto is a bad idea, for you have no control on what the bios sets for a value.

If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the ing thread!

[RCG_Bex]

Right well after some tests running on auto (because it worked) I managed to tweak to the following settings to run 4500
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 / 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.350 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.64v real
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54 (again, I think I'm wrong here)
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 real
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anyways, it now at least boots at 4.5GHz but - during stress testing 1 core always cuts out

So..... anyone got any ideas or anything I could try?

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Right well after some tests running on auto (because it worked) I managed to tweak to the following settings to run 4500
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 / 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.350 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.64v real
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54 (again, I think I'm wrong here)
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 real
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anyways, it now at least boots at 4.5GHz but - during stress testing 1 core always cuts out

So..... anyone got any ideas or anything I could try?

~Bex

Set CPU GTL REF 0.63X
NB GTL REF 0.67X
FSBT 1.40
you might need a drop more vcore as well. but try the 3 settings b4 you add vcore.

[RCG_Bex]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4 (1.32 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Still the same, core 2 cuts out and fails after 17mins

~Bex

[Furiøùs]

Haha... swapped my E8400 at 3.91 and running a Q6600 at 3.70Ghz stable.

Quadcore FTW. loving it right now, i was pissed if i was stuck at 3.6 but the chip is doing very well with 1.4875 in the bios with LLC on stable intelburn test 10 runs.

pwned.

[Grnfinger]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4 (1.32 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Still the same, core 2 cuts out and fails after 17mins

~Bex

Raise CPU PLL maybe to 1.55 and see if it takes longer for teh core to fail.
If it does leave PLL at 1.55 and raise vcore a notch or two, it should get the chip stable.

[panheimer]

furious
can you post your settings for q6600 @3.7 ghz please? i'm stuck at 455x8 and need some good advice for settings to use to get a little higher. thanks!

[Zucker2k]

266 strap dosent work well on high FSB

This new board continues to impress

Impressive, +.5 multi makes a lot of difference. Not too impressive on the fsb side, but who cares is you can get it stable?

Just ordered another rampage today.

[Furiøùs]

furious
can you post your settings for q6600 @3.7 ghz please? i'm stuck at 455x8 and need some good advice for settings to use to get a little higher. thanks!

Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell

[zlojack]

Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell

With 410 FSB on that strap you should be able to get PL down lower than 10

[Furiøùs]

it blue screened at 9. i think its the quad

[CBird28]

is anyone else getting bsod with vista, to do with IASTOR.sys (intel matrix raid)

i have formatted twice, tried different matrix versions, nothings fixing it

[panheimer]

Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell

thanks! and what about vNB, PLL, FSB Term and GTL's?

[Zucker2k]

is anyone else getting bsod with vista, to do with IASTOR.sys (intel matrix raid)

i have formatted twice, tried different matrix versions, nothings fixing it

You can load updated iastor drivers during the initial install stage. Also, could be a bad oc.

[steve30x]

If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the ing thread!

I dont mind reading through a thread 99% of the time but this thread is 266 pages long. There was no need in being such a smart a*s about it. I just asked 1 simple question.

[RCG_Bex]

Raise CPU PLL maybe to 1.55 and see if it takes longer for teh core to fail.
If it does leave PLL at 1.55 and raise vcore a notch or two, it should get the chip stable.

Grnfinger you're a star. I was obviously using too little or too much PLL when I tried that before - came home after work today and it was still going strong.

I had some lol's with it earlier before that advice trying for 5Ghz - well - that didn't go well - told me BOOTMGR was corrupt, then on reboot, xx.DLL was missing, then "Windows has failed blah blah blah - please re-sinsert disk blah blah blah" and then somethign different again on another reboot. I was like, WTF? Rebooted on 4.5ghz and all of a sudden Windows booted magically :P

Anyways, played around with my V-core again and it's running stable at lower voltages which makes me happy Next goal, 5Ghz .....ok maybe 4.8Ghz bit easier)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger you're a star. I was obviously using too little or too much PLL when I tried that before - came home after work today and it was still going strong.

I had some lol's with it earlier before that advice trying for 5Ghz - well - that didn't go well - told me BOOTMGR was corrupt, then on reboot, xx.DLL was missing, then "Windows has failed blah blah blah - please re-sinsert disk blah blah blah" and then somethign different again on another reboot. I was like, WTF? Rebooted on 4.5ghz and all of a sudden Windows booted magically :P

Anyways, played around with my V-core again and it's running stable at lower voltages which makes me happy Next goal, 5Ghz .....ok maybe 4.8Ghz bit easier)

~Bex

Glad it worked for you

[Furiøùs]

thanks! and what about vNB, PLL, FSB Term and GTL's?

1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL