AMD Phenom 9100e First Pics & Review

[Jimmer411]

Being B2 its more than likely going to have the 2.6 limit that most B2 have.

If it does end up being B3 I would guess 2.6 will be easy. Seeing as 9850 are hitting 3.0-3.5ghz right now.

[triple_A]

Thanks for the results, GoriLLakoS.
Seems like the patch makes a significant difference, but that baby phenom still get's it's ass kicked by the e4700.. although by a smaller margin.

Will there be a B4? or are they just going to settle with B3 untill C1? (C1=45nm right?)

[Manicdan]

that was a great review, even if i couldnt read anything, the pictures were nice

i think people keep forgetting how big a difference a few hundred mhz is on a phenom. i was expected it to be about the same as the intel duel core cause the phenoms need to be at 2.4-2.6 to really use multi core properly.

what we really need to see from this is the OC potential of both chips and then do a compare. and anyone willing to do that is a saint

[generics_user]

Thanks for the results, GoriLLakoS.
Seems like the patch makes a significant difference, but that baby phenom still get's it's ass kicked by the e4700.. although by a smaller margin.

Will there be a B4? or are they just going to settle with B3 untill C1? (C1=45nm right?)

settle with 45nm i guess...

maybe i'll sell this IX38+e2140 to a friend and get an 9850+sapphire/DFI mobo for fun (originally i planned for a second rig but this would require a second monitos )

hmmm *checking prices*

[generics_user]

they should sell all their B3s without fixed multi, B3 is so tempting (at 100€), but 180 for the 9850 is too much (if you count in overclocking)

[Epsilon84]

Thanks for the update with the TLB bug disabled - whilst I understand your point about testing the system 'as is' how a normal customer would run it had though bought such a PC, this is XS and most people know about the TLB bug and most would prefer to turn off the fix and get the extra performance instead.

To informal/browngoatGTR, which tests are single threaded? Apart from SuperPi of course. Most of them are at least dual threaded, and a few (like the video encoding tests) are fully multithreaded as well. Either way, it goes to show that a higher clocked dual core can still beat a lower clocked quad core in many typical day to day applications, and it probably will remain that way for a long time yet.

Btw, heres a Google translated version of the review, its not the best but it does the job.
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

[Donnie27]

Graphs with TLB off is up and running

Seems like no big difference...

Thanks for the time you guys put into this. So, it still gets spanked but just not as hard and long Please add a few overclocked results to this thread.

[GoriLLakoS]

You are welcome guys,

For the time being we have no real free time to add other low end cpus on the charts...but we will try to add some more in some days

Regarding the oc comparison it is not fair as all the B2's have an fsb wall at around 233 and the intel can oc far more.

I think the B3s 9100 will be named 9150

[gOJDO]

So the best OC we can expect is 2.1GHz...I think I'll wait for the B3.

[Donnie27]

So the best OC we can expect is 2.1GHz...I think I'll wait for the B3.

That doesn't make it a bad chip, it just means AMD is binning them vigorously!
I honestly don't blame them under the circumstances.

[gOJDO]

Well, at 2.1GHz it will downgrade the performance for almost everything, compared to my Brisbane @2.85GHz. I'll wait until there is a Phenom X4 for around 100 euros(around $100 in US) that can do 2.4GHz stable.

[keiths]

I don't even know why you would consider one at 2.4. Then there's also power usage. The thing is already using 40 watts more at idle as it is, let alone overclocking to 2.4.

[gOJDO]

Since I have 3 OC-ed PCs (q6600 @3.6GHz, e6420 @3.6GHz, X2 4200 @2.85GHz), with lots of hardware attached to them, running in my working room, I doubt that the extra 40W will make any difference in the bills.

[keiths]

No worries, if you were to overclock it 2.4, it will be using more than 40.

[Donnie27]

Well, at 2.1GHz it will downgrade the performance for almost everything, compared to my Brisbane @2.85GHz. I'll wait until there is a Phenom X4 for around 100 euros(around $100 in US) that can do 2.4GHz stable.

I like running both company's stuff as well. I hope AMD is around long enough for K10.5 or K11. To me and me only, Buying the current model is like buying Prescott when it was Intel's best