AMD Phenom 9100e First Pics & Review

[[XC] gomeler]

But it is 1/2 the price...

But it offers less than half the performance?

[MarlboroMan]

Good way to get rid of all the B2's

+1 lol

im gonna buy one for my girlfriend... she stills has a Duron

[grimREEFER]

Actually, a 1.8GHz Phenom would be a poor choice for a gaming machine. You'll be much better off with a higher clocked dual core CPU.

games are basically all about the gpu, and the quad core cpu would help out in basically everything else a person does on their pc.

[gallardo]

Yay! GG again, AMD. 2 good news in one day!


Good news as in... mobilize the giant's big lazy butt to make some price reductions. I want octo nehalem for 150$ !

[informal]

I want octo nehalem for 150$ !

Keep on dreaming man...Try 400+$ for lowest clocked 8 Core Nehalem(whenever it comes out).

[awdrifter]

Waiting for the B3 revision for this, even if the B3 doesn't offer more oc headroom, it's still nice to have the errata fixed.

[Extelleron]

But it offers less than half the performance?

How do you factor that?

Core 2 is around 10% faster clock-for-clock, that means Q6600 is equal to around a 2.6GHz Phenom. How do you get 1.8GHz being "less than half" of 2.6GHz?

Even overclocking, if we assume this chip can hit 2.4GHz and an average Q6600 will hit 3.6GHz (around 3.9GHz Phenom) it's still far from less than half.

[hollo]

if the northbridge is clocked at 1600mhz, and is stable up to about 2000mhz, does that mean we can expect about 2000/1600 * 1.8ghz = 2.25ghz from it?
more or less?
or am i talking crap

[Nedjo]

if the northbridge is clocked at 1600mhz, and is stable up to about 2000mhz, does that mean we can expect about 2000/1600 * 1.8ghz = 2.25ghz from it?
more or less?
or am i talking crap

One thing is certain - this CPU will be perfect tool for testing the HTT ceiling of AM2+ mobos!

It's reasonable to expect it can reach 2.4 GHz a speed that is minimum for ALL that have tried Phenom 9500!

For it to reach 2.4 GHz, you'll need to raise reference clock from 200 to 266 MHz.

Regarding the NB, 266x8 would result in 2133MHz, and so far reaching 2.2 GHz for NB didn't prove to be a problem… so yeah this could be really one sweet cheap QC processor!

[Super strokey]

Wow thats awesome if the price actually does happen. I have a q6600 and its great but for 125 bucks which is 1/2 the price i would totally have gotten this.

[Super strokey]

But it offers less than half the performance?

Yes but this will sell like hotcakes, oems will eat this up as it will make for excellent marke3ting

[Epsilon84]

games are basically all about the gpu, and the quad core cpu would help out in basically everything else a person does on their pc.

OK, I have to ask, do you even play games? If you actually played games you will realise that a 1.8GHz Phenom will bottleneck any modern GPU... in terms of gaming performance it'll be about equal to a stock E2160 or X2 4000+... in other words, it sucks for gaming. A higher clocked dual core for the same price would be much better.

[hollo]

yeah, here are some gaming benchmarks of a phenom quad with cores disabled
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/...nom/page5.html

over 2 cores there's virtually no improvement except for supreme commander

[BrowncoatGR]

yeah, here are some gaming benchmarks of a phenom quad with cores disabled
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/...nom/page5.html

over 2 cores there's virtually no improvement except for supreme commander

That benchmark is ridiculous. They used a TLB-fix enabled BIOS to test multicore performance .

[hollo]

that'd have a very trivial impact on the core-scaling in games, the overall picture is pretty clear

[GoriLLakoS]

We made a review

9100e Vs C2D4700

It seems like the Entry Quad Core AMD is just marketing around the word "Quad"

The review is in Greek, but if you see the graphs...you will understand everything i guess...

http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=1219

[naokaji]

ouch, loosing against a e4700 sure hurts (which is known to oc like crazy and produces far less heat)...
Amd should just hire the apple marketing guys, then they could sell a 500 mhz quadcore with tlb errata for 1000$

[keiths]

The performance results from the Greek review are brutal.

[hecktic]

and isnt there gonna be special pricing per 1,000 chips or something like that??

[xlink]

e7400 GMV for my next CPU...

[Epsilon84]

games are basically all about the gpu, and the quad core cpu would help out in basically everything else a person does on their pc.

http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=1219&garpg=8 (credit to GoriLLakoS for the review).

As I said earlier, higher clocked dual core >>> lower clocked quad when it comes to gaming.

[informal]

If you bothered to take a look at Winrar results for 9100e you would see it had TLB fix turned on...Testing this CPU with the patch on brings the results further down(apart from low clock speed and singlethreaded nature of a lot of tests done).

[STaRGaZeR]

If you bothered to take a look at Winrar results for 9100e you would see it had TLB fix turned on...Testing this CPU with the patch on brings the results further down(apart from low clock speed and singlethreaded nature of a lot of tests done).

We don't want TLB bug

[breakfromyou]

I can't believe it took 20+ posts for somebody to mention overclocking one.

I heard that the 9100e was already available in an HP (i think), and that if you can find one for sale, itll cost you about as much as a 9500 would.

[BrowncoatGR]

I'm a bit baffled by those results. There seems to be something wrong with your setup. It looks like you most likely have the TLB patch enabled. Also i didnt see any mention whether you ran the tests with memory in ganged or unganged mode. Iirc there is a new version of both Sandra and Everest that added proper support for Phenom. Did you use those? Additionally you used mostly single threaded apps where obviously(granted not so obviously for ppl that dont know much about computer technology) the faster clocked processor is going to be faster. Power consumption results are also not directly comparable since you werent able to use CnQ.
p.s. I'm trying to be polite here.