Real Temp - New temp program for Intel Core processors

[CruNcher]

Im gonna make a Video of what happens stay tuned
here it is http://mirror05.x264.nl/CruNcher/rtcorebug/ (please go fullscreen scaling is awefull)
it also shows the issue that only 2 core sensors are loading for a 4 core I5-2400 this i could somehow get working last time or better it fixed itself last time after opening a lot of the other Sensor programs dunno if it will do it again currently rtcore only detects 2 cores (i installed a new Rivatuner for the test).
And it also Visualizes the 0 functioning of the rtcore CPU usage sensor for me, though as said C0 state looks quiet more efficient i also tested its update time vs Rivatuners internal CPU usage (win32) and C0 responds a tad faster
The OK button works again after unloading rtcore.dll and restarting Rivatuner you can imagine that with this bug it's not possible to use the rtcore sensor data on the OSD and change no other Sensor Setup states

[acebmxer]

Im gonna make a Video of what happens stay tuned
here it is http://mirror05.x264.nl/CruNcher/rtcorebug/ (please go fullscreen scaling is awefull)
it also shows the issue that only 2 core sensors are loading for a 4 core I5-2400 this i could somehow get working last time or better it fixed itself last time after opening a lot of the other Sensor programs dunno if it will do it again currently rtcore only detects 2 cores (i installed a new Rivatuner for the test).
And it also Visualizes the 0 functioning of the rtcore CPU usage sensor for me, though as said C0 state looks quiet more efficient i also tested its update time vs Rivatuners internal CPU usage (win32) and C0 responds a tad faster
The OK button works again after unloading rtcore.dll and restarting Rivatuner you can imagine that with this bug it's not possible to use the rtcore sensor data on the OSD and change no other Sensor Setup states

Video not working

[unclewebb]

Try to repost the video. Without access to a new Sandy Bridge CPU, it will be difficult to trouble shoot the problem you are having with the RivaTuner plugin. I'll have a look to see if I can see any obvious problems.

What version of RivaTuner are you using? 2.24C is the last version I can find.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/RivaTune...nload-163.html

You can try version 3.66 of the RTCore.dll plugin.

http://www.mediafire.com/?i82ip4n09uxd7w2

I don't know if any of the changes I made will make any difference but they might. Only run the RTCore plugin when testing to try and isolate the problem as much as possible.

Try opening up the graphs and click on the Setup button and tell me what RTCore graphs you are allowed to access. The first one should be the C0% and the last one should be CPU Usage. Let me know how many in total that you can access. If this still doesn't work, can you post a screen shot of the RealTemp Settings window or tell me what it shows in the APIC ID box at the lower right.

RealTemp 3.67
http://www.mediafire.com/?n99nq4kn95u6i6a

[CruNcher]

Hi i have to go now but i will look further into it later thx uncleweb the video should be up again if not then try http://videolair.blip.tv/file/4851712/ the direct link that should definitely work

Yes im using the MSI Master Overclock Edition 2.24C

Try opening up the graphs and click on the Setup button and tell me what RTCore graphs you are allowed to access. The first one should be the C0% and the last one should be CPU Usage. Let me know how many in total that you can access. If this still doesn't work, can you post a screen shot of the RealTemp Settings window or tell me what it shows in the APIC ID box at the lower right.

The Problem is not accessing the Setup of your or any Sensors but changing the Settings has no effect if rtcore.dll is loaded as the OK button in any of the Sensor setting window is disabled (greyed out) i hope the Video works by now it does for me on both urls.
Here is the Screen of Realtemp

[unclewebb]

When I right click on a graph and choose Setup, this is what I get.
The OK button is immediately visible.



Edit: The original link you posted is a lot easier on the eyes but you might want to check out camstudio.org

I don't care how big a video file you create. Just upload it to www.mediafire.com and post a link. A couple of still images is probably good enough too.
CamStudio lets you select a small part of your screen to help keep the file size down.

Did you have time to try the updated version of the plugin I posted? Did it make any difference?

Try turning off all other graphs except the very first C0 State % graph. When you right click on it and choose setup, do you have the same problem with the OK button not being visible?

The APIC ID in your screen shot shows 0246 which means you have 4 cores and your CPU originally supported hyper threading but it has been permanently disabled by Intel. That will help me when I have another look at this tomorrow.

[CruNcher]

When I right click on a graph and choose Setup, this is what I get.
The OK button is immediately visible.



Edit: The original link you posted is a lot easier on the eyes but you might want to check out camstudio.org

I don't care how big a video file you create. Just upload it to www.mediafire.com and post a link. A couple of still images is probably good enough too.
CamStudio lets you select a small part of your screen to help keep the file size down.

Did you have time to try the updated version of the plugin I posted? Did it make any difference?

Try turning off all other graphs except the very first C0 State % graph. When you right click on it and choose setup, do you have the same problem with the OK button not being visible?

The APIC ID in your screen shot shows 0246 which means you have 4 cores and your CPU originally supported hyper threading but it has been permanently disabled by Intel. That will help me when I have another look at this tomorrow.

Yep same the OK button stays greyed out i even tried to make sure no other plugin interferes and test wise cleaned up the plugins dir completely only left in rtcore.dll and rtcore.ini but the greyed out OK problem still persists

[acebmxer]

Real temp is not updating cpu speed or bclk when changed by setfsb.

[unclewebb]

Real temp is not updating cpu speed or bclk when changed by setfsb.

This is a new Windows 7 "feature".

When using SetFSB, the high performance timers within Windows get screwed up so any software that depends on accurate timers, won't work correctly anymore. We had this discussion last month about this problem.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4338

If you use SetFSB on a regular basis, the best solution is to fix Windows 7 as shown in the above post.

[junki]

This might be a dumb question, but does RealTemp 3.60 work with Sandybridge?

[lavazza]

I have a problem that the option for GPU temperature cannot be ticked, only CPU cores ? Am i missing something? 10x in advance.

[unclewebb]

RealTemp 3.67
http://www.mediafire.com/?n99nq4kn95u6i6a

junki: The latest version should support Sandy Bridge.

lavazza: Your GPU might not be supported by RealTemp.
Most Nvidia GPUs and ATI desktop CPUs are supported but many ATI mobile GPUs as well as the Intel GPUs are not supported.

[lavazza]

RealTemp 3.67
http://www.mediafire.com/?n99nq4kn95u6i6a

junki: The latest version should support Sandy Bridge.

lavazza: Your GPU might not be supported by RealTemp.
Most Nvidia GPUs and ATI desktop CPUs are supported but many ATI mobile GPUs as well as the Intel GPUs are not supported.

Im using GTX460 from Asus which is far from not popular. Version 3.60 was working flawlessly with GPU temperature.
What can i do to fix this ?
10x in advance.


EDIT: My bad. I forgot to tick "Nvidia". Sorry for bothering you. Regards.

[-X-hellfire]

I finally found a program that, like the old old Adaptec DriveLight
showed the harddisk activity on the partitions of all harddisks,
and shows the partition letters as tray icons shown below here in
driveGLEAM along with some temperature from Harddisk Sentinel
(which also has similiar capability but not as intuitive imo)




I also have RealTemp which showed the trayicons in the right order.
It was however a pickle to get all of these programs trayicons show
in the right order.

It worked for a while if you started them in sequence,
RealTemp
Harddisk Sentiel
driveGLEAM

...but you had to start all other trayapplications before them, like
VLC Media player, portableapps.com, P.Notes etc etc

It was a mess to restart the computer if you wanted all of them
to show up in the correct order. I search and found a program
that can sort the trayicons PS Tray Factory which works quite well
but it doesn´t work with RealTemp as it reorders them itselfs which
makes them fight over the "right" trayicon order so I have to
disable the "automatic sortorder" option.

It also happens with driveGLEAM but it has a enable/disable
button which makes them the latest trayicons which works
great. It also has an option to start the program with a dealy
after 10 to 50 seconds or more when windows starts
(which makes them the last program in the tray and which
shows as the top trayicons)



Is there anyway RealTemp can work together with thirdpart
applications and also have an startup delay option?





Here is the RealTemp dashbord together with some other
transparent programs which works but is not as pretty when
you like transparent programs.

click to ZOOM




http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9...1200physxf.png


Is there anyway to make RealTemp transparent with some
Transparency and Alpablending options such as the CPUMon
has here?

[donmarkoni]

Hi unclewebb!
Can I have my X for extreme after i7-990?
Just a small bug, but it's poking my eyes, you know me.

[amdsempron_xs]

Hi unclewebb

I've been using RealTemp 3.67 on my 2500K.

Most of the times I had it showing the same temperature for all 4 cores like below:



Is this a bug of the software or just the normal behaviour of Sandy Bridge's sensor?

Thanks.

BTW: I saw many people have experienced this fact.

[unclewebb]

It's hard to win. If software shows a bunch of different core temperatures, everyone is suspicious of crappy sensors and if the core temperatures are all the same, everyone is suspicious of crappy software.

Your screen shot shows RealTemp reporting a variety of minimum and maximum temperatures. A maximum of 72C was recorded on 3 of your 4 cores but they all occurred at different times so RealTemp must be reading all 4 sensors and not just a single sensor and then copying that value.

If you want to do some testing, run a single thread of Prime95 Small FFTs and then open up the Task Manager and use Set Affinity... to limit prime95.exe to different threads within your CPU and see how the core temperatures vary. As you move the Prime95 load around, the peak core temperature within the CPU should move around too.

32nm CPUs are tiny so there might not be a huge difference in temperatures. There's not a lot of real estate between the 4 core sensors. One hot spot on a core is going to spread to the other core sensors very quickly. This also might have something to do with what you are seeing.

donmarkoni: I'll put the missing X on the things to do list.

-X-hellfire: Adjustable transparency is an interesting but I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to adding that feature.

[amdsempron_xs]

It's hard to win. If software shows a bunch of different core temperatures, everyone is suspicious of crappy sensors and if the core temperatures are all the same, everyone is suspicious of crappy software.

Your screen shot shows RealTemp reporting a variety of minimum and maximum temperatures. A maximum of 72C was recorded on 3 of your 4 cores but they all occurred at different times so RealTemp must be reading all 4 sensors and not just a single sensor and then copying that value.

If you want to do some testing, run a single thread of Prime95 Small FFTs and then open up the Task Manager and use Set Affinity... to limit prime95.exe to different threads within your CPU and see how the core temperatures vary. As you move the Prime95 load around, the peak core temperature within the CPU should move around too.

32nm CPUs are tiny so there might not be a huge difference in temperatures. There's not a lot of real estate between the 4 core sensors. One hot spot on a core is going to spread to the other core sensors very quickly. This also might have something to do with what you are seeing.

donmarkoni: I'll put the missing X on the things to do list.

-X-hellfire: Adjustable transparency is an interesting but I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to adding that feature.

Thanks for that explanation, m8.

I myself didn't see that a bug. Just curious

[donmarkoni]

donmarkoni: I'll put the missing X on the things to do list.

No rush, it's so insignificant that it shouldn't be addressed until you do something else and do it BTW.

[vafan13]

Is there a Real Temp applet for the G15 yet?

[unclewebb]

Is there a Real Temp applet for the G15 yet?

Maybe someday. I'm half way done. I bought a G15 but haven't gotten around to the coding part yet. I think Core Temp supports the G15.

[Sanousie]

realtemp 3.67 is only displaying 3cores i7 970 ES, i have turbogt opened and it only shows multipliers and C0 state etc

I have google searched, and have no luck.

Only thing http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=849875&mpage=1 i foudn was this.

Can someone please help cheers.

[Retrolock]

Under Thermal Status, I saw a "Log" instead of Ok. Does that mean it was logging my temps or something's wrong with one core? I don't remember enabling logging.

[burebista]

Retrolock LOG means that that core hit TJMax value and your CPU is throttling.
Check your cooler ASAP.

Sanousie use RealTempGT for your Gulftown.

[Retrolock]

Retrolock LOG means that that core hit TJMax value and your CPU is throttling.
Check your cooler ASAP.

Thanks for this. Gotta check it later. Delta between idle and load temps during a wprime run is reaching 50c with a 5.3ghz, 1.525v set on bios with LLC1.

[Demo]

@unclewebb

How much is the delta of a 2600K on stock speed above ambient temperatures with a highend air cooling?
I remember the Q6600 had about 8-10c rise.