Real Temp - New temp program for Intel Core processors

[unclewebb]

-X-hellfire: In case you don't know, a Core 2 Quad consists of two separate Core 2 Dual cores. Your data looks very similar to my Q6600 where I am about 99% certain that TJMax on core 2 and core 3 is set 5C higher than core 0 and core 1. I have seen too many similar screen shots to believe that this is all just random chance. I don't believe that Intel has told users the whole story about how they set TJMax on their 65nm Quads.

For your CPU I'd try TJMax 100, 100, 105, 105 and then use slightly different calibration factors on core 2 and core 3 to balance out the temps at idle. I think after this, your 4 cores should track each other very closely from idle to TJMax when running Prime 95 Small FFTs. I like that program and test because of its consistency. My Quad still shows this 5C difference between the two sets of cores even when the temperature is at 90C or 95C. That doesn't seem like slope error. That seems like TJMax is being set differently by Intel. Once calibrated, you can do the low MHz / low voltage test and compare your reported temps to your room / water temp.

Snafu: Talking temps is never off topic on this thread. It hasn't always been easy turning a couple of lines of code into a 127 page story.

[Snafu]

Thanks rge and unclewebb.

[W1zzard]

RealTemp 3.00 released:

• Core i7 temperature and frequency support including Turbo mode.
• NVIDIA temperature reporting with highest GPU temperature displayed in SLI mode.
• Ability to run a file or shutdown based on user defined alarm temperature.
• Updated interface with modern XP / Vista style and border in Mini Mode.
• Start Minimized Vista issues finally fixed.
• New RivaTuner plug-in support.
• Extra information on the main screen and the retirement of the toggle button.
• Switch to UNICODE for better international support.
• Adjustable GUI colors and bold System Tray font option.
• TJMax updated based on new Intel documentation and further testing.
• Calibration formula simplified.
• All new CPU Cool Down Test for a more thorough look at your sensors.
• Clock Modulation & Minimize on Close options.
• New CPU Load meter, log file headings and Distance to TJMax in the System Tray.
• 101 other improvements including initial Windows 7 Beta support.

Download: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...Temp_3.00.html

[unclewebb]

It took 6 months but it's finally official.

Time to put the TechPowerUp servers to work.
Maybe this version will someday reach a quarter of a million downloads like the last version did.

[burebista]

Congrats man for your masterpiece.
Now you deserve a little rest. Or not?

[unclewebb]

The W1zzard has dangled the AMD carrot in front of my nose.
Rest? What's that.

[Bullet92]

Great work unclewebb ... I hope you'll continue with the awesome work in the feature.
Thank you for new version again

[zlojack]

Thanks Unclewebb!!

Now all we need is someone to do a gadget for this and it'll be perfect. Too bad I'm useless at that kind of stuff or I'd give it a shot myself.

[Roger_D25]

Yes indeed, thank you very much for all your help, time, and inovation with Real Temp! Its one of the most helpful temp utilities I've ever used, keep pushing it!

[Ol'Baditude]

Congrats Webb. Now how about that beer? hehe.

[unclewebb]

Congrats Webb. Now how about that beer? hehe.

That depends. Who's buying?

Edit: One user seems to have some missing cores with the latest version.



He's in Romania I believe so I haven't been able to contact him yet.

If I'm lucky, maybe he had two cores turned off in his bios. Let me know if your Quad has lost a couple of cores.
My Q6600 is fine.

[WaterFlex]

unclewebb
Thanks again for you great work, mate

[Vatos_locos]

nope all the cores are here :p

[radaja]

uncleweb,thank you so much for this great app,and most importantly all the individual help you give everyone,like how quickly you respond to or needs.and it never stops for you,as soon as one thing is fixed you move on to the next bug.and you have been very patient with us and our unending requests.you are a good man,thank you very much,it is appreciated.

[darkzone]

Edit: One user seems to have some missing cores with the latest version.[...]
If I'm lucky, maybe he had two cores turned off in his bios. Let me know if your Quad has lost a couple of cores.

Yes, I'm that guy with two missing cores from Q9450 And no, I didn't turned off two cores in BIOS, my rig is working 24/7 and running Windows Server 2008 x64 SP1.

I also helped you, indirectly, in your program development last year in late october - early november, with some screenshots during my tests on Core i7 965 (burebista courtesy).

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

Hi

what means the info 1067A on the realtemp software?



thanks

[burebista]

Your CPUID string.

[unclewebb]

darkzone: Welcome to XS and thanks for your help last fall. It usually takes people forever to get an account here.

On the previous page, Vatos_locos also has a Q9450 and RealTemp is reading all of his cores fine.
The APIC ID information shows 4 unique threads for his CPU.



Your screen shot only shows two unique threads; 0 and 1. Is it possible that Windows Server is set up so it is not allowing RealTemp to run on and access all 4 of your cores? In XP and Vista I know if you go into the Task Manager and select Set Affinity... it will show you what cores your process is allowed to run on. I assume that Windows Server is the same. That might give us a clue to what's going on.

Can you post a screen shot of CPU-Z? It shows the number of CPUs and the number of Threads available at the bottom which also might help explain this.



A multi-threaded benchmark like wPrime might also show if you have access to 2 or all 4 cores.

Edit: Here's some numbers for comparison. The first 2 are at 3000 MHz and for the second 2 I used SetFSB to adjust my Q6600 to its 266x9 default of 2400 MHz.



radaja: RealTemp wouldn't be a great little monitoring app if it wasn't for all the help I get from XS users. The only way I can find out about bugs quickly is if people come here and tell me about them. I hate buggy software as much as anyone. When there's a problem, I'm happy to fix it for all users.

|Oc|REvO_HsArC: That cryptic 1067A number in RealTemp is your CPUID. A good programmer would provide a label for that value but I think it looks ugly when it says CPUID 1067A so I left off the label.
If you look at CPU-Z, it shows the 67A part as the Family, Model and Stepping. The 1 comes from the Extended Family info section of CPU-Z. When I see that number, I know right away that you have an E0 processor which helps me when debugging. IBT at 4500 MHz with 1.288 volts also confirms that you must have an E0.

It will also help you when you go to the Intel website to learn about your CPU. I like the Processor Spec Finder button in the About... box of RealTemp. It makes it a lot easier to find information about your CPU.



1067A is a hexidecimal number. Most people will precede a hex number with 0x. It's also acceptable to put a small h after this number which Intel likes to do.

If you have an Nvidia GPU then your GPU temperature shows up here which is more useful for most people. Some ATI temp data in there is on the maybe list.

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

thanks guys

[jas420221]

It took 6 months but it's finally official.

Time to put the TechPowerUp servers to work.
Maybe this version will someday reach a quarter of a million downloads like the last version did.

Awesome!!!!

Is it true that you do not have VID in for i7? I looked back several pages but didnt see anything. Thanks!

[anzial]

Awesome!!!!

Is it true that you do not have VID in for i7? I looked back several pages but didnt see anything. Thanks!

did you try searching? i7 came out quite some time ago, so peeps had plenty of time to discuss this issue to death.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...postcount=2672

[jas420221]

I only looked back in this thread, but only a couple pages back, not 600+ posts. Thank you.

[darkzone]

OK, here is the complete screenshots with all your demands I hope this will be usefull for you.




My rig: ASUS P5Q, Q9450 under Scythe Ninja 2 fanless, 8 GB DDR800, 9800GT, 3 x WD6400AAKS, SAMSUNG SH-S223F, Enermax Modu82+ 425W, Antec Ninehundred w/ 4 x 120mm fans, UPS Mustek 1000VA, Windows Server 2008 x64 SP1, C1E/EIST activated in BIOS, CPU Voltage - 1.18V (@FSB400).

[unclewebb]

Thanks darkzone. I always like "too much information."

I'm not sure why 2 of your cores are hiding in version 3.00 but I'll have a good look for them tonight.
I have a few ideas so if I can figure something out, I'll send you an updated version that you can test. Thanks for your help.

[jcotran]

I'm not sure if this has been covered but...which version of Real Temp should I believe is more accurate?