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    unclewebb, so what about mac os X version?

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    Uncle Webb, maybe you can make a version that supports an 8core chip on your free time. Thanks...
    Apologies if am asking too much.
    Last edited by maxxx; 10-29-2012 at 08:15 AM.

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    Hi maxxx, I am pretty sure I did make an 8 core version of RealTemp once upon a time but the guy I wrote it for said it was too big and ugly so I scrapped it. Unfortunately I don't have enough time or hardware for an 8 core update now.

    Lately I have been working on a special edition of RealTemp for my friends over at Tech|Inferno which is just about done.



    It includes the return of VID and VID based power consumption monitoring for Intel's 3rd Generation Core i CPUs.
    I also added a column to report the CPU Package temperature but in my testing, that just looks like the maximum of the 4 cores so that is not too useful.
    There is also a new C-State reporting window. I like using C3/C6 to save some power but most enthusiasts at XS turn that junk off when overclocking.

    WaterFlex: I don't know of any easy way to read CPU registers in OS X. In Windows I am using the WinRing0 library but I don't know of anything equivalent for Mac. I also don't own a Mac or any sort of development tools so you're out of luck unless you are running Boot Camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclewebb View Post
    Hi maxxx, I am pretty sure I did make an 8 core version of RealTemp once upon a time but the guy I wrote it for said it was too big and ugly so I scrapped it. Unfortunately I don't have enough time or hardware for an 8 core update now.

    Lately I have been working on a special edition of RealTemp for my friends over at Tech|Inferno which is just about done.



    It includes the return of VID and VID based power consumption monitoring for Intel's 3rd Generation Core i CPUs.
    I also added a column to report the CPU Package temperature but in my testing, that just looks like the maximum of the 4 cores so that is not too useful.
    There is also a new C-State reporting window. I like using C3/C6 to save some power but most enthusiasts at XS turn that junk off when overclocking.

    WaterFlex: I don't know of any easy way to read CPU registers in OS X. In Windows I am using the WinRing0 library but I don't know of anything equivalent for Mac. I also don't own a Mac or any sort of development tools so you're out of luck unless you are running Boot Camp.
    UncleWebb: thanks for that. Big and ugly? If it has the same interface as the normal RealTemp, how can that be ugly? Anyways, thanks for trying. Can you share that special version that your almost done with, please?

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    hey why i have such big difference between cores?
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    Maybe you don't install your CPU Cooler well or maybe you don't put the TIM ok ?

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    difference is around 5-7?c from coolest cpu 0 to warmest cpu 3....using i5 2500k/asrock z68 e4g3 etc.
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    The difference is ok.
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    RealTemp seems to have a problem starting on Windows 8. Will run and work fine when you click on it, but will not start with Windows 8. Tried putting shortcut in start-up folder, reg entry in current user run and even task scheduler with elevated privileges, it just wont run at start-up. Even tried another PC with Windows 8, same thing. Any ideas Uncle Webb? Thanks.

    edit: OK got it to start with task scheduler. It only worked when I selected the "run when user is logged on" option, it wont work if "run whether user is logged on or not" .

    Seems 8 is a bit more difficult to work with start up programs:

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...n-requirements
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    if you run it before a user logs on, then you won't be able to see the system tray icon or open the window when you log on. this is part of how win7 works so i assume win8 is the same.
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    Starting RealTemp with Windows 7.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...ml#post6865107
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...essors/page146 Post #3645

    I think that works in Windows 8 but I haven't done any recent testing.

    Maybe this weekend I will get around to finishing off RealTemp T|I.

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    Maybe this weekend I will get around to finishing off RealTemp T|I.
    Unclewebb: may we know the difference from the regular version of RealTemp? TIA....

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    Here's the README file for the new T|I version.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?ouo9lzeuu9r0tkq

    The program should be ready for download within the next day. I will post a link when it is up.
    I am just beta testing a few minor features and updates, mostly for the newer Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclewebb View Post
    Here's the README file for the new T|I version.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?ouo9lzeuu9r0tkq

    The program should be ready for download within the next day. I will post a link when it is up.
    I am just beta testing a few minor features and updates, mostly for the newer Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs.
    @UncleWebb : thanks for the notes.

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    RealTemp Tech|Inferno Edition
    http://www.techinferno.com/downloads/?did=53


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    Quote Originally Posted by unclewebb View Post
    RealTemp Tech|Inferno Edition
    http://www.techinferno.com/downloads/?did=53

    Any chance of a SB-E compatible version? I really like the new look, and it would be really nice if us lowly X79 users could us this too Thanks in advance!

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    This looks great - thanks unclewebb! (unfortunately I have no 'thanks' option in the forum).

    Powerlimits feature is working nicely on my ASRock mobo.

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    Unclewebb, I notice theres a difference in temps between RT v3.70 and RT-TI (v3.75), roughly about 5c degree less per core for RT 3.70. I had also noticed the same difference between RT vs other hardware monitoring apps (Aida64, HWinfo64, etc). But RT-TI now seems in line with these mentioned apps. Did not find any explanation on this in the readme. CPU used is i5-3570k.

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    aamar: Open up the RealTemp Options-Settings window and make sure both versions of RealTemp are using the same value for TJ Max. If both programs are not using the same value, you need to click on the Defaults button if you want RealTemp to read the correct value for your CPU.

    The wrong value for TJ Max can get set in the INI file if you manually set this in RealTemp 3.70 or you might have swapped from a 2nd Generation Sandy Bridge CPU to a 3rd Generation Ivy Bridge CPU without updating RealTemp. When this happens, RealTemp will continue to use the Sandy Bridge TJ Max value found in the INI file when it should be using the 105C value that is correct for Ivy Bridge CPUs.

    Adjustable TJ Max was a good idea at the time during the Core 2 era but it's not really necessary anymore so I have disabled this feature in the T|I Edition of RealTemp.

    If TJ Max is set equally, both versions of RealTemp should be reporting the same temperatures. When lightly loaded and using some of the C sleep states like C3/C6, the core temperatures can fluctuate rapidly so put a load on your CPU for a fair comparison. Prime 95 Small FFTs is still my fav for equally loading the cores.


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    Thank you Unclewebb. That was it. TJ-Max in RT v3.70 was set at 99 (for previous CPU I used, i5-760). RT-TI is at 105c which is for the 3570k. All is well, thanks.

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    Just wondering if someone can give me some guidance with my calibration? When I adjust the idle the TJmax changes also? Not sure if I'm missing something?

    The core variance seems a lot to me:

    Last edited by one80; 04-28-2013 at 04:34 AM.

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    Anyone?

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    any updated version?
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    I have an error message when open RealTemp



    How can I fixed that?

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    What version of RealTemp are you trying to use and where did you download it from?

    Try one of these versions and let me know if either of them work.

    RealTemp 3.70
    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...eal-temp-3-70/

    RealTemp T|I Edition
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1330144/realtemp-t-i-edition

    In theory, either of these versions should work with the new Haswell processors.

    I plan to release an updated version once I get some feedback from someone that owns a Haswell CPU.

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