Intel Q9450 @ 3.6 ghz

[Carfax]

A question.

I've overclocked my Q9450 to 3.6ghz (450 x 8) with my CPU voltage at 1.34v and Asus AI Suite is showing the temperature to be hovering around the high 50s to low 60s.

How accurate is Asus AI Suite?

Even though I have a 1ghz overclock, I have a hard time believing my temps is reaching that high.

I have a Cooler master hyper 212, and I'm not using any thermal paste... Ambient temperature is 73 degrees Fahrenheit.

Whats a safe but reasonable overclocking temp for my processsor?

[asap]

and I'm not using any thermal paste...

???

around 30c idle i suppose, to look at ur ambient.. with "thermal paste" of course

[The Asgard]

I'm sure everyone would recommend using a good thermal compound like AS5.

I assume you are using the supplied TIM that came with the Cooler master hyper 212?

[Carfax]

Well my idle is much lower, because the CPU uses a different ratio when idling. It uses the .6 multiplier rather than the .8.

I just ran the Everest system stress test and it failed

I wonder if it's due to not using enough voltage?

Also, whats an accurate temperature sensor?

[Cob]

Real Temp or Core Temp.

[Neuuubeh]

doesnt sound too high, especially if you got no TIM

[sbinh]

Well my idle is much lower, because the CPU uses a different ratio when idling. It uses the .6 multiplier rather than the .8.

I just ran the Everest system stress test and it failed

I wonder if it's due to not using enough voltage?

Also, whats an accurate temperature sensor?

Speedstep is still enabled .... and at 450x6=2700MHz ... and idle temp~ 40-50*C ... hmmm kinda high though .....

[jas420221]

1. Get some thermal paste on there ASAP... wth are you thinking?
2. Idle tmeps of 50/60C are WAY to high, period.
3. You should use Prime94 Torture test, Small FFTs to test temps.
4. Realtemp is the best 'accurate when you open it' program. Coretemp you would have to change some things in it...and no offense, but since you didnt use thermal paste (why?), Im keeping this post on a basic level.


Temps on P95 load shouldnt go above 65C, 60C really. That would put 95% percent of all other temps (gaming, burning, whatever) around 50-55C.

[dengyong]

I suggest real temp 2.6 to monitor your temps. http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...Temp_2.60.html

[Carfax]

Haha, I figured I'd be admonished for not using thermal paste To be honest, the reason why I never used it (even though I do have some Noctua thermal paste) is because I'm a lazy bastard, and I always hated applying that messy goo

Also to clarify, when I said 50s to low 60s, I was referring to LOAD temps. I should have been more specific.

Still, I admit I should have put the thermal goo on. While the Cooler Master 212 is a high end heat sink, it's not the best.

How much could the Noctua reduce my load temps by you think? It's comparable to AS5 but cheaper.

Also, do you think the voltage is fine at 1.34?

I guess I'll crack open the case on Sunday and apply the paste..

[Carfax]

I suggest real temp 2.6 to monitor your temps. http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...Temp_2.60.html

Thanks for that!

[Carfax]

Update. I put some of that Noctua thermal goo on my processor, and lo and behold, I got a 10 degree drop in temps

Now my system is completely stable, and the Everest system stability test no longer fails.

So the moral of the story is, don't be a dufus like me and forgo using thermal paste

[jas420221]

Ummm I hate to say this......but if you were using coretemp to give temps in the first post, then switched to Realtemp, there is a 10C drop built in b/c the Tjmax in the programs are 95C and 105C respectively with Realtemp being the lower, accurate number.

Like I said, to REALLY test it, use Prime95 Torture test, Small FFTs.

[Warpcore]

Update. I put some of that Noctua thermal goo on my processor, and lo and behold, I got a 10 degree drop in temps

Now my system is completely stable, and the Everest system stability test no longer fails.

So the moral of the story is, don't be a dufus like me and forgo using thermal paste

Well at least it works ok now

[Carfax]

Ummm I hate to say this......but if you were using coretemp to give temps in the first post, then switched to Realtemp, there is a 10C drop built in b/c the Tjmax in the programs are 95C and 105C respectively.

Like I said, to REALLY test it, use Prime95 Torture test, Small FFTs.

My first reading was actually using Real temp.

Also, how is Prime95 different from Everest in terms of how it produces the CPU load?

[jas420221]

I have no idea... it depends on which bench in everest you use. Most people here use P95 or OCCT to test. Give it a whirl on the test I stated and see if the temps are different.

[Carfax]

I used P95 and the temps were the same.

However, when I was doing the stress test at 3.6ghz, my computer froze and spontaneously rebooted, despite the fact that my temps weren't very high (around 50 degrees as shown by Real temp).

I figured it was a voltage problem because my voltage was still set to auto. So I set it at 1.325 in the BIOS and when I booted up, the "On AC Power" icon showed up in the taskbar.

Thats NEVER happened to me before. What does that mean?

[dengyong]

Are you using an uniterruptible power supply (ups)?

[Movieman]

Said with the best of intentions:
Get some damned thermal paste in there.
Think on it this way:
You build a concrete block wall.
Would you just stack the concrete blocks on one another without cement inbetween to fill in the voids?
Same principle here my friend.
You have tiny voids between your IHS and the HS so get some "filler" in there ASAP.

[dengyong]

Update. I put some of that Noctua thermal goo on my processor, and lo and behold, I got a 10 degree drop in temps

Now my system is completely stable, and the Everest system stability test no longer fails.

So the moral of the story is, don't be a dufus like me and forgo using thermal paste

^ I think ya missed one Dave.

Said with the best of intentions:
Get some damned thermal paste in there.
Think on it this way:
You build a concrete block wall.
Would you just stack the concrete blocks on one another without cement inbetween to fill in the voids?
Same principle here my friend.
You have tiny voids between your IHS and the HS so get some "filler" in there ASAP.

[railmeat]

Said with the best of intentions:
Get some damned thermal paste in there.
Think on it this way:
You build a concrete block wall.
Would you just stack the concrete blocks on one another without cement inbetween to fill in the voids?
Same principle here my friend.
You have tiny voids between your IHS and the HS so get some "filler" in there ASAP.

good analogy and agree %100

[Carfax]

Are you using an uniterruptible power supply (ups)?

No I'm not. I'm using a regular surge protector..

Anyway, it's not a big issue I suppose. I was just surprised to see the icon in my task bar.

My biggest issue is finding out what made my computer freeze during prime.

I know it's not the temps. The temps were hovering around 50 degrees under full load.

It has to be the voltage. Either the cpu, or north bridge or whatever..

If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm using an ASUS P5K motherboard.

[loonym]

The asus has a good bios for using the auto settings and many times it will set them adequately for the given overclock but I've found that sometimes auto just won't cut it.

[Carfax]

The asus has a good bios for using the auto settings and many times it will set them adequately for the given overclock but I've found that sometimes auto just won't cut it.

Yep. I just set my voltage to 1.37 and it's now running completely stable at 3.6ghz