D-Tek Fuzion vs EK-Supreme?

[Jim Morbid]

Thanks Andy.

What is the GTZ you mentioned early on?

JM

[Jim Morbid]

Ah thanks. I dig the test bed setup. You obviously dont have kids/cats that wonder the house, waiting to test your patients :p

JM

[mr-rob]

It seems that the EK Supreme beats the D-Tek in single CPU loop. That's ok for me.
What about adding several WB in the loop? Is this still the same "supremacy"?
Thanks

[IanY]

Mr-Rob,

OK no sacarsm necessary... Both are great water blocks.. everybody happy now ?

[IanY]

+1

I'm deathly allergic to tiny holes and slots in my water blocks.

I'm still having recurring nightmares from my Swiftech Storms

[leo_bsb]

Thanks Andy for your time and efforts.
Could you post the log results for the one pump only loop?
I think this is more the average XS member build.
Can't wait for the no-nozzle test and the GTZ.

[mr-rob]

Mr-Rob,
OK no sacarsm necessary... Both are great water blocks.. everybody happy now ?

Sarcasm?

I have a EK Supreme on a Maximus Formula (+Q6600), in a loop with 6 WB (GPU/NB/...). I'm very happy with it.

The question is that I have a NexXxos XP² HighFLow on a Maximus II Formula (+e8400), in a loop with 2 WB. I just want to change my WB because the "fixation" of the XP² is quite "boring": I often switch CPUs and I need something quicker to unmount.
->So, in order to test something else, I just wanted to know if there is a bigger differences with more WB in a loop.
If it that close in term of perf, EK is cheaper

[IanY]

Sarcasm?

I have a EK Supreme on a Maximus Formula (+Q6600), in a loop with 6 WB (GPU/NB/...). I'm very happy with it.

The question is that I have a NexXxos XP² HighFLow on a Maximus II Formula (+e8400), in a loop with 2 WB. I just want to change my WB because the "fixation" of the XP² is quite "boring": I often switch CPUs and I need something quicker to unmount.
->So, in order to test something else, I just wanted to know if there is a bigger differences with more WB in a loop.
If it that close in term of perf, EK is cheaper

I apologize. Well, you have chosen the best waterbock in the market. Its obvious it works well in your multi-block loop, as long as there is adequate head pressure.

In any event, even if the FuZion V2 were to perform any better under your circumstances, the improvement would be minimal. If you are concerned about the EK being "cheaper" then it would certainly not be cost unproductive to have to rush out and buy a FuZion V2 as well.

I would stick to what you have, and if there is a performance issue, then there's the excuse to buy a second pump.

Hope that was useful.

[mr-rob]

I apologize. Well, you have chosen the best waterbock in the market. Its obvious it works well in your multi-block loop, as long as there is adequate head pressure.
In any event, even if the FuZion V2 were to perform any better under your circumstances, the improvement would be minimal. If you are concerned about the EK being "cheaper" then it would certainly not be cost unproductive to have to rush out and buy a FuZion V2 as well.
I would stick to what you have, and if there is a performance issue, then there's the excuse to buy a second pump.
Hope that was useful.

Price is not the real problem . And I don't really need to change in fact because i've got nice temp'.
It is first for a easier way to unmount the block . And I admit: testing something else than NexXxos and EK .
Thx for your answer... I'll take a look at Apogee GTX, Cuplex XT DI too

[IanY]

Look at the forthcoming Apogee GTZ.

Never mind the Apogee GTX. I have one myself. It isn't worth your trouble because its not the equal of the EK.

[Martinm210]

Awesome testing, thanks for taking the time to not only test with one, but two pumps. I was really curious if that was going to flop things around or not, but you've just shown it doesn't.
Thanks!!
Martin

[tw33ter]

v2... no worries about clogging FTW!!!

[Martinm210]

Thanks Martin, means a lot.

I may need to look into Crystal Fonts and it's sensors. Form what I've seen on your setup, could be a very nice thing to have for precise testing and monitoring.

The more and more answers I get, the more and more questions I have. Just fasinating stuff, what a hobby.

That and my presentation skills need some serious ass work Got no admin assitant here man.

andyc

Yeah, it's nice have 32 channels of logging and it's pretty good down to .2C or so, it's a good tool

[ShoNuff]

Andy, thanks for taking the time to test and post your findings. If I were a betting man I would have lost big time.

Your comments earlier in this thread with respect to the Cuplex DI caught my attention. Was this Cuplex DI tested in the same loop as the V2 and Supreme?

[Anemone]

Seriously IanY hit it on the head. Neither of these blocks should leave you dying for the other one unless you happen to prefer an acrylic block (EK). People can and DO lose a degree or two just in a so-so mounting, or an elbow in a tough place. Relax. Both blocks will serve their purpose well.

[Nickel020]

Yeah, it's nice have 32 channels of logging and it's pretty good down to .2C or so, it's a good tool

I'm also looking at doing some serious (as in somewhat scientific/accurate results) watercooling testing. Would you say that all the temp sensors (air in/air out) are necessary? Because if not I will probably go with calibrated sensors on an Aquaero (can only hold 6 sensors).
Also, how are the sensors connected to the Crystalfontz thing and how time consuming is it to learn the software and set it all up?

And thanks for doing the testing mcoffey! One thing though, it looks like you did just one mount there per block, can you confirm (through previous experience/testing) that those were actually "as good as it gets" mounts? Because at that kinda temp difference the block with the "better" mount usually wins.

Edit: Nevermind Andy, missed this post:

Just as a heads up,

Just about done with my testing and I should be able to post soon. It's taking longer because I'm double checking my results which I was a little taken back by to be honest. The Supreme is cleanly kicking the crap out of the V2 with quad nozzle based on everything I've seen so far. And that's with several remounts. And I don't see where the V2 with quad nozzle will win any flow rate contests either. Seems more restrictive than the V1 with it's quad nozzle.

Should have something up later tonight, I want to make one more run to double check, and maybe try the V2 w/o nozzle.

andyc

[jonny_ftm]

Still that sound issue is a major problem.

Hope you can soon test it at stock, no nozzle, to see if it's still there. That noise thing is really irritating. Changing the flow/pump speed, you could see if it's only appearing on too high flows

[Eddie3dfx]

Thanks for creating the test. Ek acrylic block is probably the best looking block I have seen.

[Nickel020]

The best looking block is the Cuplex XT DI, hands down. But ist doesn't hold up performance wise with the rest and is pretty much only good in CPU-only loops. I have to second ShoNuff in wanting to hear something about the Cuplex from you Andy, whether you still think it's such a good block like you stated in January.

[Eddie3dfx]

The best looking block is the Cuplex XT DI, hands down. But ist doesn't hold up performance wise with the rest and is pretty much only good in CPU-only loops. I have to second ShoNuff in wanting to hear something about the Cuplex from you Andy, whether you still think it's such a good block like you stated in January.

Cuplex is also gorgeous and so is that special block that the guy from antec made.

[Lloyd]

I haven't heard any sound coming from my V2 (stock)

[jonny_ftm]

I haven't heard any sound coming from my V2 (stock)

Maybe because of the EK GPU FC WB, much restriction on the system so low flow

[Blazing fire]

Now, if you want the Mercedes of CPU blocks get a Aqua Computer Double Impact block. Just got the Block and have to do some more tests, but initialy I'd say it beats the EK soundly. That thing is a serious piece of engineering. Only one thing, even more restrictive than the EK. No way I'd use it in a multi block loop. Be intresting to see if it does better with a stronger pump or adding another one in the loop.
andyc

Hi, could anyone confirm if the Aqua Computers Double Impact is indeed the best CPU block?

[Blazing fire]

Thanks! That's what I thought. I only know that ek supreme, dtek and GTZ are roughly in the same league, just like MCW60 and GFX2.

[RickCain]

Hi, could anyone confirm if the Aqua Computers Double Impact is indeed the best CPU block?

Best looking - arguably yes

Best Performance - not quite