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    More than fair Thanks

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    One pump - simple test and it's what most folks are going to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    Just as a heads up,

    Just about done with my testing and I should be able to post soon. It's taking longer because I'm double checking my results which I was a little taken back by to be honest. The Supreme is cleanly kicking the crap out of the V2 with quad nozzle based on everything I've seen so far. And that's with several remounts. And I don't see where the V2 with quad nozzle will win any flow rate contests either. Seems more restrictive than the V1 with it's quad nozzle.

    Should have something up later tonight, I want to make one more run to double check, and maybe try the V2 w/o nozzle.

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    Awesome, thanks for testing!

    Is there any particular orientation differences? Line up the nozzle plate with the cores I'd assume?

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    http://www.effizienzgurus.de/main/in...article_id=574
    This results show that the v2 is better without the quad plate with a ddc pump
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    Yes, but not far, I think. No more than 0.5°C. Less than 1°C for sure.
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    Yes, would be interesting to see it without nozzle. As Martin's tests showed, it seems to perform better on stock

    That noise issue is a definite stop for me. Hopefully it's not on stock, but I'm doubtfull. In another thread, it was expierienced by more than 3 persons, at stock, only one pump

    By the way, I was told many times the EK Supreme, in asingle CPU loop, would perform ok with one pump. What do you think about a Laing D5 at vario 4 (MCP655-B)? Will it be a bad performer?

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    Thanks for the testing. Many reviews compared the Fuzion V1 to the EK on a quadcore and the difference was about 2°C only. Till now, no direct comparision including Fuzion V1 against V2 on a quadcore. Do you plan it?

    Hesitating more than ever. The V2 of the Fuzion seems a mess for now. The EK Supreme is too restrictive for my taste. The Fuzion V1 is getting old...

    Looks like the GTZ from Swiftech would be worth the waiting for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repliquant67 View Post
    http://www.effizienzgurus.de/main/in...article_id=574
    This results show that the v2 is better without the quad plate with a ddc pump
    Ah, I missed that post
    So, now we have a direct comparision between V1 and V2 on quadcore. Looks like the EK Supreme will only outperform the V2 stock, no nozzle, on aquadcore by 1°C

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    Interesting can't wait for the results. At first I went with Fuzion v1. because I thought that I would be running the loop with multiple blocks, but turned out I only had single cpu loop...

    But if I had to buy another cpu block definitely EK Supreme for the compression fittings.
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    I just find the difference between the v1 and v2 a little bit low on this test from effiziensgurus. Usually, we saw more than 2°C between this two version in the other tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repliquant67 View Post
    I just find the difference between the v1 and v2 a little bit low on this test from effiziensgurus. Usually, we saw more than 2°C between this two version in the other tests.
    But here we're talking about quadcore. I didn't see any tests with a quadcore at about 200W
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRedRaider View Post
    According to whoever ran that test.....

    I for one, trust ANDY, not someone I've never heard/read anything about...

    ANDY, I truly believe ran a fair test....

    To be honest, I'm not even going to take the time to read that garbage test......................
    Where's andy test with quadcore?

    And that garbadge test shows same trend of results as other reviewers too, doesn't look so bad for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRedRaider View Post
    GARBAGE
    I like facts, so still waiting for facts and comparision testing

    If a Fuzion 1 stock is 2°C water-CPU delta difference only from an EK Supreme, than for many of us, the Fuzion 1 is a winner. If the Fuzion 2 stock is now only 1°C far from the EK, and it reveal to be silent, than it will be the winner for most people.

    Wait and see...
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    Garbage??...aww. Come on...be a little open minded.
    If the site really crap thermochill wont put their test on thermochill site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRedRaider View Post
    I have no beef with you, my friend. I disagree though that if EK Supreme is cosistently beating the FuZion v1/v2 blocks then the OP here should acknowledge the fact that EK Supreme reigns SUPREME......
    No beef here either , and I don't plan to be of any rudness

    Anyway, hope those tests come soon. All will agree the EK Supreme beats them all, but if it will be by 1°C, than high flow will account for many of us. For all Xtremes and single CPU loops, the EK would still be the first choice, that looks to be one thing you're right for sure.

    For many, the restriction must be accounted for. Let's say, this topic is now for those looking at how close the Fuzion v2 stock comes to the EK We all know the EK is Supreme in the absolute. Now I'd like, like many, know the relative
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    No V1 to V2 Comparison. I don't have a V1 freed up at the moment. I've got to run one more test on the Supreme, then a couple on the V2 w/o nozzle which is holding things up. After looking at the V2's quad nozzle more closely, I'm thinking it will preform better without one.

    I'm testing on a QX9650/4.125 @ 1.40 volts, so there's plenty of heat dump in the loop

    And I would agree. If the GTZ is on the way, and you're not in a hurry, I'd wait to see how it does against the 2.

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    Many thanks. Now that there's good reviews of V1 vs EK and V1 vs V2, you're adding the ultimate V2 vs EK with a quadcore. So, we'll have all data to choose the block fulfilling our needs

    Looking forward your tests, thanks again for those tests
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    Thanks heaps for the tests Andy, i'm glad i bought the Supreme!

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    Nice results Andy, if you have a chance could you try the ek with only one 655, I am curious as to what if any difference the 2nd pump makes (and if with one pump the fusion would beat it)?
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    Thank you Andy - the time and dedication are sincerely appreciated. Extreme wins.

    V2 no nozzle might come if there's time, but the EK block comes out on top.

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    andy you'll pull more with DDC's in serial. :T

    and even more with an rd-30 @ 21W. RRR

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    See,

    If I had seen any real difference with 2 D5's, it would be easier for me to understand how 2 DDC's would make any difference. I didn't see any real performance increase with dual D-5's, and 2 DDC's aren't that much stronger. At least not enough stronger to matter in my mind.

    So I'd have to see some real test results before I can understand what your saying, based on what I've seen so far.

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    Many many thanks for the tests
    So no decrease in performance with only one pump, now at least it's proved

    Still waiting for those V2 stock tests. Things could really tighten if we believe other reviews, including martin tests on a C2D
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    Good job

    There is 1.25°C between the two blocks. I'de like to see the results without the quad plate for the d-tech. The two blocks should be closer.
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    [R3] D-TEK FuZion v2......................FTW! [/MODE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraf View Post
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    Definitely interested in this, since I spent $10 on extra Quad plates for my v2 (accidentally added 2 to the cart - such a small amount, didn't notice).

    If there's any improvement, I'll pull the Quad plate next time I have the case out.

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