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    Hey GTJ what bios version are you using with that overclock
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    Quote Originally Posted by rchelicopter View Post
    Hey GTJ what bios version are you using with that overclock
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtj View Post
    On the X48 I'm at 450FSB 333/1333 (333 strap)
    Vmch 1.375
    Vfsb 1.325
    DDR3-1800 8-7-6-24-84-1T (2x 1gb)
    Vdimm 1.82

    Passes 4 hours of OCCT mix.

    Now I do think I fried my E8500 because I can only get it to 450x8 with reasonble Vcore now.

    gtj, thanks for your advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpst03 View Post
    gtj, thanks for your advice
    Just remember, Your Milage May Vary.

    What works for my setup may not work for yours.


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    Quick update: I put a small 40mm / 5 cfm fan on my northbridge, it drops the temp from 55 degrees C (~130 F, very hot to the touch) to just a little warm. Even with reduced rpm so you can't hear it over my 120mm fans, it's working well.

    I'm still trying to close the loop on the SMBus Controller -2930 driver issue...After 3 Vista reinstall and several driver tests and calls to Intel, still not sure if I'm the only one with the bug.

    If anyone has the 8.xxxx drivers I was wondering what happens when you click on Drivers Details of the SMBus Controller under System Devices in Device Manager in the picture below. If you get an error, what is it?
    If Miwo you're reading this, I'd be happy with a quick update ;o)
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    DX48BT2...Chipset Driver XP x64, BIOS Update ISO Image

    After wasting some time with the Asus P5Q3 Deluxe board... it is either Asus or the p45 chipset/ddr3 combination isn't ready yet, at least for now.

    I have decided to try the more mature x48 chipset.

    I have not done any overclocking on the board yet, I have only installed a clean windows at default settings. Board is behaving as it should for now.

    I hope this helps some of you. 2 observations so far...

    1)After a fresh install of XP x64 (before any windows updates/service pack etc), I installed the latest chipset driver from Intel's website for the board. All of the usb devices stopped functioning...keyboard, mouse, flash driver...none of the usb ports worked.

    *I suggest people download the latest chipset driver from the chipset section as that one works.....not the one on the board's download page.

    2)I updated the bios to 1554 using the ISO image and I had to use the Plextor DVD Writer, as the driver on the CD image was erroring out on my ASUS DVD Rom. All bios settings were correct and same and I used the same burned CD.

    *So it probably needs to be a writer drive to work with the BIOS ISO image CD or it may just not be compatible with some drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_DX48BT2 View Post
    Quick update: I put a small 40mm / 5 cfm fan on my northbridge, it drops the temp from 55 degrees C (~130 F, very hot to the touch) to just a little warm. Even with reduced rpm so you can't hear it over my 120mm fans, it's working well.

    I'm still trying to close the loop on the SMBus Controller -2930 driver issue...After 3 Vista reinstall and several driver tests and calls to Intel, still not sure if I'm the only one with the bug.

    If anyone has the 8.xxxx drivers I was wondering what happens when you click on Drivers Details of the SMBus Controller under System Devices in Device Manager in the picture below. If you get an error, what is it?
    If Miwo you're reading this, I'd be happy with a quick update ;o)
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    Yes I get an error message when i click on driver details, something aobut no driver being installed or found. I dont have the exact message since I'm at work, but thats the gyst of it. The driver date/version is a few posts back i did

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtj View Post
    On the X48 I'm at 450FSB 333/1333 (333 strap)
    Vmch 1.375
    Vfsb 1.325
    DDR3-1800 8-7-6-24-84-1T (2x 1gb)
    Vdimm 1.82

    Passes 4 hours of OCCT mix.

    Now I do think I fried my E8500 because I can only get it to 450x8 with reasonble Vcore now.

    geez thats fairly low vmch vfsb @ 450 and on top of that 333 strap! Good work. I think I need to adjust my ram settings because I seriously think that I am pushing way too many volts down the NB for 24/7 usage. ACtually, i just noticed that you have the X48, which is probably why since these are the binned chips(?).

    1.4 vsb, 1.625 vMCH here, and it definitely runs hot. Unstable without active cooling here...x38 @ 480FSB. Will try to relax ram timings to drop vMCH / vFSB a tad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miwo View Post
    Yes I get an error message when i click on driver details, something aobut no driver being installed or found. I dont have the exact message since I'm at work, but thats the gyst of it. The driver date/version is a few posts back i did
    Thank you very much for your reply, I really appreciate your help!
    The reason I was asking is because Intel told me I shouldn't keep the system with that kind of error, offered a bunch of tests for me to do, which all took time and did not work. So far they just said the only thing they can do is exchange the board which may not solve anything...so I asked them to try to see if they can reproduce the bug with the same configuration.

    What's strange is mryerse got also the message "No drivers found" under Device Status, but he was able to click on Driver Details and it worked. You and I get an error message saying again that the drivers could not be located.

    With that information I can at least show Intel that it's not just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoTech View Post
    *So it probably needs to be a writer drive to work with the BIOS ISO image CD or it may just not be compatible with some drives.
    My writer DVD drive did not work as well. Thought I read a post saying it's because a DVD drive the IDE channel won't work, there are no drivers on the BIOS ISO image for the Marvel IDE chipset, so maybe a SATA DVD drive works. I gave up and tried another method ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_DX48BT2 View Post
    Thank you very much for your reply, I really appreciate your help!
    The reason I was asking is because Intel told me I shouldn't keep the system with that kind of error, offered a bunch of tests for me to do, which all took time and did not work. So far they just said the only thing they can do is exchange the board which may not solve anything...so I asked them to try to see if they can reproduce the bug with the same configuration.

    What's strange is mryerse got also the message "No drivers found" under Device Status, but he was able to click on Driver Details and it worked. You and I get an error message saying again that the drivers could not be located.

    With that information I can at least show Intel that it's not just me...

    ill post a screenshot if i remember when i get home.
    My board has no problems whatsoever......pretty sure its tied to the driver or something. DX38BT here. I'll try uninstalling the chipset drivers, reinstalling or use the ones on the CD - but I am pretty busy trying to blow up my 4850 atm and going all out with it on my Accelero S1.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_DX48BT2 View Post
    My writer DVD drive did not work as well. Thought I read a post saying it's because a DVD drive the IDE channel won't work, there are no drivers on the BIOS ISO image for the Marvel IDE chipset, so maybe a SATA DVD drive works. I gave up and tried another method ;o)
    I made sure the sata drives were set to ide in bios. The IDE was set to native. These 2 options were already the defaults in the drive configuration tab of the old bios.

    It definitely makes sense. My DVD Rom was IDE, the DVD writer that worked was SATA. Unless you had some settings on Raid/Legacy etc, then the problem is obviously no support for IDE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miwo View Post
    ill post a screenshot if i remember when i get home.
    My board has no problems whatsoever......
    Thanks in advance!!

    My board has no other problems too (nothing significant), but the guy at Intel insisted on the importance of it...? I don't know also why some people see the bug and others not (it's not a conflict with other stuff because I saw it from the beginning with no other hardware or software installed)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_DX48BT2 View Post
    Thanks in advance!!

    My board has no other problems too (nothing significant), but the guy at Intel insisted on the importance of it...? I don't know also why some people see the bug and others not (it's not a conflict with other stuff because I saw it from the beginning with no other hardware or software installed)...
    I'll check it when I get home as well. All I remember was that the general device manager tab looked clean without exclamation marks after I loaded everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoTech View Post
    I'll check it when I get home as well. All I remember was that the general device manager tab looked clean without exclamation marks after I loaded everything.
    Yes, same here...I didn't see it after the 2nd and 3rd re-installation of Vista, where a popup window randomly appeared briefly to let me know there were no drivers for ICH9 and try to find a solution...Yet no exclamation mark in the device manager, BUT a bug if you do look in the properties indeed...Definitely never seen that before!

    Thanks in advance for posting a screenshot!!

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    Yo! nick_DX48BT2!
    Didn't You think this may be Vi$ta problem? Why don't You try to install XP and check it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petr0id View Post
    Yo! nick_DX48BT2!
    Didn't You think this may be Vi$ta problem? Why don't You try to install XP and check it out?
    Yes, in fact, it may be specifically Vista SP1, if I'm not the only one with the same bug (I'll compare Miwo and DiscoTech screenshots). Intel told me they tested the driver on Vista with no issues and certified it.
    Good idea to try XP -- although if it bugs too I don't know what's next, and if it doesn't bug I'm stuck because I want to continue with Vista...unless somehow Intel updates the drivers or posts a note saying the bug is not an issue. I'll have to locate a spare HDD to play with

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    Soon i will finish my DX38BT setup and i think i will choose XP (for the first time). No D3D10, but SP3... When SP3 for Vista will come out i'll give it a try 8)

    Edit: Thanx for all, who writing in this thread, now i know much more about DX38BT, than month ago.
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    Great!!! Thank you so much!!!

    This is a very good screenshot and summary of the problem...

    The conflicts:
    - No exclamationp point in device manager, but the Device status says "no drivers are installed"
    - A driver version and date, but Driver Details says that no drivers have been loaded

    Intel wasn't aware of it. I only found it because a huge popup window showed above the taskbar sometome after installation, mentioning the issue (no drivers for ICH9 SMBus) and offering to find a solution (downloading drivers again, which did not work).

    Thanks again Miwo for your time. If others have the same problem, give me your configuration & I'll gather to give to Intel so they can tell us what's going on and if we can safely ignore...

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    I got the exclamation a while back, but didnt think anything of it and just ignored it. I never saw the problem again after the first install of the driver I believe.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoTech View Post
    I'll check it when I get home as well. All I remember was that the general device manager tab looked clean without exclamation marks after I loaded everything.
    OS Windows XP x64. I have the latest chipset driver from Intel's website chipset section installed. Same version and date as the one pictured on one of the above posts.

    I don't have any exclamation marks in device manager, and I have never received a message box about the driver. But in the Properties/General Tab it says no drivers installed.... but the driver tab has the driver information.

    It may be a x64 driver bug on a specific driver version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoTech View Post
    ..."I have never received a message box about the driver. But in the Properties/General Tab it says no drivers installed.... but the driver tab has the driver information.

    It may be a x64 driver bug on a specific driver version.
    Thank you very much for checking! This is very useful!

    I have Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1, same bug...so it is not limited to 32 or 64 bits or to Vista or XP...

    The only reason I found the issue, is that Vista SP1 showed a popup window saying no drivers were installed or could be found for the ICH9 SMBus Controller... Then a second window appears and says: click here to find a solution to your problem! Which does some scanning and offers to download the drivers again. Which does not solve the issue...

    However, as I said, I did not notice the message the first time, only on the second and third Vista reinstallation. The popup window does not stay long on the screen, and it appears at a random time long after installation based on my two tests (in either case long after drivers installation and a few reboots). If you're not in front of the PC when that happens you can miss it...

    Not a very good job from Intel: 1) not knowing the issue, 2) suggesting I have a real problem or conflict in my configuration and they assured me I should never see such an error message and their drivers are just fine 3) spending more than a week doing tests for them like reinstalling Vista a couple of times, testing driver installation uninstallation and reinstallation many many times, removing the board out of the case etc and other countless of suggestions that I had to follow for them to continue to help me but obviously solved nothing because their driver has a bug

    Note: I contacted them by email, then after some tests and emails they told me to call them for better troubleshooting, then they said they needed to research further and they called me back 24 hours later, and this is where we are...it's not like I just happened to talk to one Intel tech that was not as knowledgeable

    Next time I'll just assume they have buggy drivers but my installation and board are fine
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    I sent an email to Intel to explain the findings and ask them if they had indeed "escalated the issue". I'll put that issue to bed and if I do get an update from Intel regarding that driver bug or the POST issue on first boot that they said their Engineering department was investigating, I'll post a quick update as to what the findings are...

    Meanwhile, back to a more productive use of my time!!

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    Hey everyone, havent posted anything in a while, I got my system running the way I want it to (nothing fancy :P), I just wanted to thank everyone for being so patient. This thread was really a great find, thanks again. I may be back one day if I get serious about overclocking ; D
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