FINALLY! Barcelona(s) + Asus L1N64......

[yankeex86x]

With AMD Overdrive (2.0.9 installed , 2.0.14 Sys file) I'm able to change core frequency separately.....

[spicypixel]

Interesting, keeping me eye on this as a cheaper alternative to skulltrail but only if people start getting 3.0ghz on the cpus :P

[yankeex86x]

The only thing which keeps me under the 2.3GHz wall is the vCore that i'm not able to change....
The other interesting fact is that Vista changes core frequency independently (based on power request).
My hope is to unlock the bios..... at least to change the vCore in order to reach higher frequencies.... however 2.3Ghz isn't too bad considering that my "old" FX-74 hardly reaches 200MHz overclock.....
Very very good.... outstanding....
Now let's find some tools to hack this locks....

[msimax]

till we get a working bios
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=541


nice btw

[yankeex86x]

in about 5/10 minutes i'll post some screens of my computer.....
don't ask me for benchmarks for now because i don't have the time (sorry).
Maybe next week i'll have the time to make other tests.....
for now i'll post some OC results (2.3GHz) and some features picts.....
(looks like that SocketF is capable to change core frequency independently... how is it possible?????? )

[yankeex86x]

Sorry but i'm not capable of doing hardware mod on motherboards.....
my fear is to make some serious damages to the mobo....
I'll try to find software ways to breach the wall.......
really.... i'm sorry....

[Tony]

Take a look see...should i be buying some ECC Reg dimms for my L1N64 and risking a bios flash?

check the pics and tell me what you think

Processor Third-Generation AMD Opteron™
Model Number 8346 HE
Frequency (MHz) 1800
L2 Cache Size (KB) 512
Socket Socket F (1207)
Stepping BA
Manufacturing Tech (CMOS) 65nm SOI
Wattage (W) 55 W
System Bus (MHz) 1000
Number of Cores 4

Not B3's but worth a try?

[yankeex86x]

Hi
these opterons are B3 stepping and are 8way processors usefull for 4 to 8 socke motherboards.....
It's hard to say if they will work on your motherboard....
but I'm sure 100% that the only difference between the WS and WS/B is the bios.
I updated the WS bios with the haked one on this thread (that have been made by asus!!) than i updated with the WS/B official release bios 0.501 and everything gone right....
I used the crashfree bios recovery tool (ALT+F2) to flash the bios using an usb pen drive and now i have a WS/B mobo with an opteron....
I can't be sure about these opterons because those chips are not mentioned on WS/B support website, only 2344 to 2354 are supported for now.
the only 8way opterons capable are the old 90nm series 82XX...

[Tony]

board has a socketed bios, all I have to do is look thru the masses of old bios IC's I have for something that will take a flash and hot flash the new bios then. I can't see any reason why the CPU would do any damage to the board if I tried it, and having the old chip flash intact gets me out of a pickle if needed.

Issue is ram, I have none and OCZ do not produce any either, so im on the scrounge for a couple of modules just to test...anyone reading this in the UK feeling generous?

[yankeex86x]

sorry for rams.... i'm in italy and these kind of modules are hard to find out due to their specify use....
here are some screens.....
I overclocked the CPU to 2.3GHz....
before that I tried Overdrive with the stress test over CPU 0 and the system raised only CPU0 multy.... very very good.... I love SocketF!!
PS: all Opterons Chips with the GH suffix at the end of the part number are stepping B3.

[msimax]

board has a socketed bios, all I have to do is look thru the masses of old bios IC's I have for something that will take a flash and hot flash the new bios then. I can't see any reason why the CPU would do any damage to the board if I tried it, and having the old chip flash intact gets me out of a pickle if needed.

Issue is ram, I have none and OCZ do not produce any either, so im on the scrounge for a couple of modules just to test...anyone reading this in the UK feeling generous?

never mind

[yankeex86x]

Can anyone explain me how is it possible to change core multys indipendently on socketF motherboards without DDPM? I thought that was a F+/DDPM feature...
But I'm able and i've a "normal" socketF mobo....
PS: in order to overclock i entered the bios and changed all tree HT speeds from 1000 to 800 (HT 5x ---> 4x) in order to keep away the HTT wall. I don't think that thewe will be a lot of difference in normal and gaming use.....

[yankeex86x]

See you tomorrow guys.... now i'm going to sleep... I've to study hard for next week exams... however i'll keep updated this thread as better as i can!
goodnight!

[Tony]

never mind

???

Something on yer mind? Processors were free, nothing to lose for me if they don't work as long as i test with borrowed ram.

[msimax]

hey yankeex86x have you registered on asus web site to request a bios up date yet?? and whoever reads these threads we need to get asus to get a updated bios pronto so request one too..

on a side note are you seeing mem timings in the bios i didnt see any? , but i saw the 1066 div would be cool if we had memory to test it.

[msimax]

???

Something on yer mind? Processors were free, nothing to lose for me if they don't work as long as i test with borrowed ram.

i was gonna say the new boards come soldered but didnt read fully your board was socketed and i guess they did that so you couldn't switch back and forth just by taking out the bios

[yankeex86x]

I've also seen the 533 (1066DDR2) divider in bios setting but for now these opterons don't support memory frequencies over 667 (333x2) (and reg ram over 800MHz don't exist) , maybe if new shangai chips will be socketF and support ddr2 800/1066 this mobo will be ready...
This motherboard is very very good.
However i didn't register to asus website because they will release the new bios when they want....
If you have a soldered bios you can still connect a small bios socket pin to pin with the soldered one and using it to have funny flashing.....
Now going sleepy... bye!

[msimax]

I've also seen the 533 (1066DDR2) divider in bios setting but for now these opterons don't support memory frequencies over 667 (333x2) (and reg ram over 800MHz don't exist) , maybe if new shangai chips will be socketF and support ddr2 800/1066 this mobo will be ready...
This motherboard is very very good.
However i didn't register to asus website because they will release the new bios when they want....
If you have a soldered bios you can still connect a small bios socket pin to pin with the soldered one and using it to have funny flashing.....
Now going sleepy... bye!

yes this a good board very stable even though once considered the illegitimate bastard child of quad core, now comes the realization of a 8x4 system the only thing that stands in its way is amd itself.

first if one chooses to support this system he has to deal with the ridiculous prices ex. a 2356 cost $1260 compare to 9850be $235 what amd needs to is release another fx even if its only the last like a 9850be type.

and maybe put out that wahoo board just think what 2 4870x2 with 8 cores could do



second this board is addicting to just think about the possibilities i wanna try and see if tri sli works and do it properly since 9800gtx are now $199 good thing i waited. i wanted see if i can break some amd records before i give up on this board.


whatcha gonna do AMD

[eXa]

Tony-magic on this board... i might have to get one now!

:p

[demonkevy666]

I wish I could take a dual dvi monitor connect one 9800GX2 to each link & have it work with out SLI on all on one screen. (have windows stretch screens) & then add on a 9800 GTX to each of them
DUAL TRI SLI lol

[wascrash]

WooW!
seems that ntune is fully supported by this motherboard...
I could reach 230FSB........
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edited....
the main problem is the bios locking....
I would be able to reach 2.5GHz very easy only if i have the way to change the vCore....
Plus I've my northbridge temp at 50 celsius.... I'm fearing to burn my chipset.... any idea about better cooling it without modifyng the mobo?
(overclock continues... when i'll have my PC ok I'll try to post some pict....)

Im running my fsb @ 175 for over a year and the chipset is really hot to touch. I put an old intel cpu fan on it with just a tad of superglue to help cool it. Helps a bit but its still really hot. Just thought ide let you know mine is still ok since you were scared of the chipset heat.

[yankeex86x]

Hi guys!
I viewed previsous posts and i understood that the CPU is capable of running
at 2.3GHz at stock voltage.
Now I'm thinking that the Northbridge is preventing the processor from further rising.
Now I have this data:
CPU=2.0GHz NB=1.6GHz x8
CPU=2.3GHz NB=1.84GHz x8
It looks that the northbridge is not capable of running higher than 1.84GHz so I've to find a way to lower the NB multy because my FSB is locked at 230MHz.
Any help is very appreciated!

[msimax]

kyosen has some tweaks in the beginning of the thread

[yankeex86x]

I'd like to understand how to overclock these chips over 2.3GHz...
They run stable (almost) at that frequency.... but i'm not able to go higher...
When i hit 231/232 FSB freq they look up...
Maybe rams?
I've no heatsink over rams but those chips are DDR2-800 and the ratio is set to 667.
I tried to raise up latencies but with no luck.....
Any idea? I don't understand what kyosen did to its processors...
I changed the HTlink width by entering bios (HT speed 1000/800/600/400 which means HTratio 5/4/3/2) for all tree options (CPUtoCPU CPUtpSB1 CPUtoSB2) .
I tried to lower the HTratio as Kyosen did, by setting them to 3, now i've HT bus speed set to 600MHz...
but everytime i raise up the FSB over 230MHz the system continues to look up...
Maybe an internal CPU frequency lock????
I NEED 2.5GHz.....
HELP

[msimax]

i think you need to lower the nb through the registers