FINALLY! Barcelona(s) + Asus L1N64......

[LIKMARK]

Hi!

I also thought all flavours of Opteron would be coming in new B3 revision, but according to AMD homepage, only 2354/56 is B3's as of now (AMD homepage might be out of date of course, I hope that is the situation really)

As I said, I had heard that the /B rev of the board has DDPM, however I find that unlikly. I have also heard people getting WS boards with a /B sticker of paper plastered at the end of the L1N64WS, wich make me think it is the exact same board, with a new bios

s7e9h3n's WS board showing up as a rev /B board supports this theory too IMO

I believe the B3's will overclock at least as good as the Phenom B3's. (Hopefully even better due to lower TDP)

According to msimax who have the WS board and Athlon FX's (I'm sure you have noticed his thread here) the boards ain't too happy with HT overclocking, (and K10 ain't either) therefore a multiplier above 10 would be nice for some decent overclock. That would mean a 2354. They'll probably drop in price pretty soon. (I'm hoping)

Have you been able to overclock your FX's?

[msimax]

Hi!

I also thought all flavours of Opteron would be coming in new B3 revision, but according to AMD homepage, only 2354/56 is B3's as of now (AMD homepage might be out of date of course, I hope that is the situation really)

As I said, I had heard that the /B rev of the board has DDPM, however I find that unlikly. I have also heard people getting WS boards with a /B sticker of paper plastered at the end of the L1N64WS, wich make me think it is the exact same board, with a new bios

s7e9h3n's WS board showing up as a rev /B board supports this theory too IMO

I believe the B3's will overclock at least as good as the Phenom B3's. (Hopefully even better due to lower TDP)

According to msimax who have the WS board and Athlon FX's (I'm sure you have noticed his thread here) the boards ain't too happy with HT overclocking, (and K10 ain't either) therefore a multiplier above 10 would be nice for some decent overclock. That would mean a 2354. They'll probably drop in price pretty soon. (I'm hoping)

Have you been able to overclock your FX's?

the highest htt i got was 300. also kyosen got up to 2.6 using a b1 chip through clockgen

http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/file/L..._NB-x8_3-4.png

so now we have b3 optys and a bios thats lets you oc so i guess im going to join you guys since im getting a ws/b back from asus. worst case scenario $$$ aside a 2356@ 270htt= 3105mhz which i can live with besides the price

[Oldguy932]

I won't be joining in the fun for a few weeks sadly. I'll probably get whatever the highest binned I can find is. The 2360's are 2.5ghz 105W TDP parts, and I don't mind the extra heat since I plan on learning about watercooling with the system, but if I chicken out I'll at least get some TRUE's with some 1900rpm scythe slipstreams.

Err...maybe not...$1200 per cpu doesn't sound good when I plan on upgrading to shanghais when they come out...

[LIKMARK]

Seems I were right about the rebranding at least


Bios chip is not soldered


Opteron 2347 batch CAAUB AA 0734MPM


Now I need some registered ram...

Edit: Picture of the board added:

[Oldguy932]

You got my hopes up only to crush them by saying you don't have memory yet... Can't wait till you do though.

[LIKMARK]

I know I know

How do you think I feel sitting her like an arse without ram

Money talks, and they're whispering REALLY low atm... Only got one cpu too yet, but I'll make it up to you. Promise.

[yankeex86x]

Hi guys!
The best is to see that the situation is getting better
Having seen LIXMARK's pictures... ASUS made a very bad job...
they only changed the bios to support barcelonas and the name to increase the price...
However I own the FX-74 and I overclocked them to 3240MHz (15x215) but usually i keep them to 14 (215x14= ~3000) in order to have the maximum memory speed... (at 15 the memories runs at 750MHz... i don't know why )
I have the motherboard with the soketed bios.... (that is different from your's as i look....)
this is an image:



finally I decided to go with 2350 because my official seller said that AMD replaced every processor in order to keep the "old" problem like a ghost...
plus I have some friends that will go to america this summer, and i may buy the optys at cheap prices (1€ = 1.6$ woow!!) and getting 2 optys with less than 350€ .....
I found a reason about the changed name of the motherboard:
Opteron motherboards are targeted for a buisness partnership, where moneys are the real end... so these motherboards have to be priced up....
ASUS can't officially add support for optys for partnership laws.... that's all....

thanks.... for the replies....

[yankeex86x]

LIXMARK...
you got a BA step Opteron....

2347 BA stepping:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...L4BGEWOF).html

"Notes on AMD OS2347WAL4BGE
OS2347WAL4BGE is an OEM/tray processor
OS2347WAL4BGEWOF is a boxed processor
Stepping BA"

2350 B3 stepping
http://www.compusa.com/applications/...C-PRICEGRABBER

"Architecture: 65 nm
Wattage: 75W
Stepping: B3 "

(these links are not intended for commercial purposes...)

Let me know how it works!! (and overclocks!!!)

[aGeoM]

LIKMARK's BIOS is soldered.

[LIKMARK]

Sorry for the late reply guys, lost my post twice, and got fed up trying to write it again

LIXMARK...
you got a BA step Opteron....

2347 BA stepping:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...L4BGEWOF).html

"Notes on AMD OS2347WAL4BGE
OS2347WAL4BGE is an OEM/tray processor
OS2347WAL4BGEWOF is a boxed processor
Stepping BA"

2350 B3 stepping
http://www.compusa.com/applications/...C-PRICEGRABBER

"Architecture: 65 nm
Wattage: 75W
Stepping: B3 "

(these links are not intended for commercial purposes...)

Let me know how it works!! (and overclocks!!!)

I know it's a rev BA. My upgrade path is like this: Either I buy another 2347 rev BA (Hoping for a cheap one off Ebay or something), and upgrade to Shanghai when they comes.
Or I go straight for a 2354 B3, with another 2354 B3 later. Or I'll wait for Shanghai alltogether.

I'll probably end up with alternative 1. (Can't wait for months going octo when I already got the board )

Just to be sure: You got the WS board with blue pci-e slots? Wonder why the difference, an did they change anything else when rebranding them? I think I'll have to send an email to the legendary Asus support.

LIKMARK's BIOS is soldered.

Yes you are right. My untrained eyes wanted it to be socketed...


BTW, I have decided on ram, going for the safe one, the "officially verified bladi-bla" Kingston Dualranked 667MHz ECC/REG

[SocketMan]

Guess it's time for people to say goodbyes to their BP6's and dual Celeron's
300a.Hope it works out good Likmark, may the CPU gods send you a miracle
Good luck with it
EDIT
That list has 3 AM2+ opty's
"supposedly" out in April, where?
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/TY...20Opteron.html

[msimax]

Sorry for the late reply guys, lost my post twice, and got fed up trying to write it again




I know it's a rev BA. My upgrade path is like this: Either I buy another 2347 rev BA (Hoping for a cheap one off Ebay or something), and upgrade to Shanghai when they comes.
Or I go straight for a 2354 B3, with another 2354 B3 later. Or I'll wait for Shanghai alltogether.

I'll probably end up with alternative 1. (Can't wait for months going octo when I already got the board )

Just to be sure: You got the WS board with blue pci-e slots? Wonder why the difference, an did they change anything else when rebranding them? I think I'll have to send an email to the legendary Asus support.




Yes you are right. My untrained eyes wanted it to be socketed...


BTW, I have decided on ram, going for the safe one, the "officially verified bladi-bla" Kingston Dualranked 667MHz ECC/REG

try to find ddr800 it will help if you if you run into a htt wall
http://www.provantage.com/kingston-k...g~7KINB126.htm

[LIKMARK]

Guess it's time for people to say goodbyes to their BP6's and dual Celeron's
300a.Hope it works out good Likmark, may the CPU gods send you a miracle
Good luck with it
EDIT
That list has 3 AM2+ opty's
"supposedly" out in April, where?
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/TY...20Opteron.html

It's the budapests iirc Probably off to oems or whatever

try to find ddr800 it will help if you if you run into a htt wall
http://www.provantage.com/kingston-k...g~7KINB126.htm

Sorry to say, they are too expensive, I'm going for 2*2gb modules

Edit: And BTW I don't think htt wall is gonna stop my oc first...

[yankeex86x]

Hi!
After taking a look at my motherboard, and making a comparsion, there are some useless changes:
a) PCI-E slots are blue in my version (WS), but nothing changed in the PCI-E link (x16-x8-x16-x8) as already seen in the WS/B model.
b) these boards share the same type of bios chip (PLCC), the only thing that changes is the removability.
The shared tips of these boards:
a) memory support (800-667-533-400 - WS) (no800 WS/B)
b) "the manual is the same" (some writings are obivusly changed without care) and some times the are some tips about the socket L1FX in the WS/B model!!! ; plus the manual obivously show's the WS model instead of the WS/B.
c)these boards share the same IRQ assigments
d) the writings (and types) on various chips are the same.
so, nothing to say... these boards are the same....

[yankeex86x]

I finally found usefull ram able to overclock the barcelona core....

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...800D2D8P6K2/4G

these are Pc-6400 (DDR2800) reg ram with parity and CL5....
even if I overclock the 2350 to 2500MHz the memories will run just above their limit (833MHz) so I shouldn't have problems with overclocking
So, lets go up with these optyes....

[LIKMARK]

cl6

[msimax]

cant beat this and its what i am getting
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=T800RB1G

http://www.supertalent.com/datasheet..._Datasheet.pdf

[LIKMARK]

Lol look at the picture: http://www.ewiz.com/photogallary.php...800RB1G_LG.GIF

DDR2 800MHz PC25300??? Probably a typo though

Too bad they don't come in 2gb modules.

BTW: Is it the boards limitations that limits the L1 platform to 8 gigs of ram, or is it the dimms density that does it? If I installed 4*4gb modules, would I still only get 8 gigs of ram?

Edit: Link: http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...533D2Q8R4K2/8G

[yankeex86x]

Hi guys!
I found some info about the rebrand over L1N64-SLI (no /B) made by asus.

http://it.babelfish.yahoo.com/transl...nTrUrl=Traduci


original japanese
http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/ar...1/news097.html


Plus you can read: "There is with “/B” in type turn end, but as for hardware constitution being the completely same as L1N64-SLI WS which is shipped until recently"

Let's go with the final (and official) 0.501 bios from asus.... and we'll overclock as much as possible!!!

[msimax]

my board finally came and it has a soldered bios chip oh well . now i got to see if it will run my FXs with reg ram till i get my barcys

[Oldguy932]

I think there was a price drop at newegg regarding the 2356's. oem's of the chip are now in the $400 range. The retail one is still in the $600 range, but if you buy them for this board you don't use stock cooling anyway .

[msimax]

i noticed that too. but whats up with the $7 difference between the 2354 and 2356 i wish i the $$$ to jump on 2 right now bfore they change the price.

[LIKMARK]

Got around ordering ram for my setup a few days ago. Ended up with these. No e-tailers in Norway have them in stock though, so I'm in for a wait, but then I'll have a little oc headroom at least. Wonder when the 2360 comes into the channels btw

[yankeex86x]

Hi guys....
I'm worried about memory...
The memory that both me and LIXMARK posted ( http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...800D2D8P6K2/4G ) are dual rank x8 memories.
I'm worried if we can put these modules on our motherboards (WS & WS/B).
As i remember these are 4Gb (2Gb x2) 800MHz DDR2 PC2-6400 CL6 Reg wParity.
If I take a look at the single rank memories, the price rises up.
(the higher price are still better in this case?)
can someone open my eyes? !

1. are those modules supported by socket F?
2. are dual rank memories better for overclock?
3. what is better to choose (single or dual) ?

thanks so much guys, in two weeks i'll receve the 2350 B3 for my WS, so i'd like to know what memories are compatible to better overclock the processor.....

[LIKMARK]

I asked some of the same questions on 2cpu forums.

You probablye have seen that the ram linked to is not on the WS/B supported ram list, but identical ram with lower frequency is supported, so I think it's ok. Time will show.

BTW: the e-tailer I used still don't have my ram in stock..........