X38 and Areca cards

[safan80]

Clearly not full of BS, as you just proved my case. Thanks!

Since I'm in the market for a hardware RAID card, and the Arecas are important contenders, but have obvious issues with current and future boards/chipsets, this is of interest to me. As should be checking the bandwidth requirements of any RAID set to ensure it doesn't max out the card/slot for those of us going this route. I think I'll stick around this thread, therefore, if your lordship doesn't mind.

the problem with areca cards and the X38 is the fault of intel. the card worked fine with my p35 and it works fine in other boards.

[Movieman]

Ace,Ian:
Both you guys seem to be decent people.
Start fresh and shake hands.
Remember, friends first ok..
Yes, I do sound like your mother..
I'll say it for you.

[Ace-a-Rue]

done!..we shaked hands in a PM.

[Movieman]

done!..we shaked hands in a PM.

Thank you sir..

[IanB]

I am embarrased by my comments which were unworthy of me. I am well aware that Ace's experienced opinion IS worth a damn and I never meant to suggest otherwise. I'm happy he has accepted my apology anyway.

Thanks for the intervention, Movieman.

[Nizzen]

I got a Adaptec 31205 pci-e x8 kontroller, and i have a LSI pcie-x4 kontroller.

Testet with my Abit x38 MB. Adaptec 31205 works in the blue pci.e 2.0 slot and the LSI works in the black pci-e 1.1 slot!!

This was the best day for me!

So on my ix38 i have 8800 ultra, LSI sas pci-e x4 and Adaptec pci-e x8

And 8 Seagate 15k.5 73 gb

[Ace-a-Rue]

I am embarrased by my comments which were unworthy of me. I am well aware that Ace's experienced opinion IS worth a damn and I never meant to suggest otherwise. I'm happy he has accepted my apology anyway.

Thanks for the intervention, Movieman.

you were sick with the flu.

i should have been more tolerant with your expressed views...i just read to much between the lines which set me off...sorry for my tiraded post.

[Ace-a-Rue]

I got a Adaptec 31205 pci-e x8 kontroller, and i have a LSI pcie-x4 kontroller.

Testet with my Abit x38 MB. Adaptec 31205 works in the blue pci.e 2.0 slot and the LSI works in the black pci-e 1.1 slot!!

This was the best day for me!

So on my ix38 i have 8800 ultra, LSI sas pci-e x4 and Adaptec pci-e x8

And 8 Seagate 15k.5 73 gb

GEEZ!...what a system!

[darkstar757]

Please can someone help me!

[Ace-a-Rue]

I have areca raid card 1210-8X PCI-Express

work very fine with GA-X38-DQ6 w/3XRaptors Raid0

Please can someone help me!

the 1210 card is working for this dude!

[mark0326]

Which would be the better card card for the Abit IX38 where only 1 graphics card slot is being used.

AMCC 3Ware 9650SE-4LPML Serial ATA II Hardware RAID Controller Kit 4-port

or

Areca ARC-1210, 4 Port PCI-E SATAII RAID Controller

Anything else I should be considering?

Thanks.

[safan80]

areca released a firmware and bios update for all their cards 1.44 http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm which now allows me to get into the bios on my X38.

[lowbid]

areca released a firmware and bios update for all their cards 1.44 http://www.areca.com.tw/support/main.htm which now allows me to get into the bios on my X38.

Now that is good news...thanks sanfan

I have a maximus extreme i will try.

[safan80]

Now that is good news...thanks sanfan

I have a maximus extreme i will try.

make sure you use the updater to update all 3 files and do the firmware last because it requires a reboot.

[Z3R0-CooL]

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

[REVHEAD]

I just have a couple of questions guys, I just use my system for playing games, and like them to load as fast as pssable, now I know that ram cpu ect are all factors, but do these Areca cards make much of a differance compared to say the onboard raid on most Motherboards?

I run an x38 as well and was thinking about investing in an Areca Card

[lowbid]

make sure you use the updater to update all 3 files and do the firmware last because it requires a reboot.

thanks i will try it.Z3R0-CooL good to hear you got it working and it was only a firmware update...thanks lowbid

[IanB]

I just have a couple of questions guys, I just use my system for playing games, and like them to load as fast as pssable, now I know that ram cpu ect are all factors, but do these Areca cards make much of a differance compared to say the onboard raid on most Motherboards?

I run an x38 as well and was thinking about investing in an Areca Card

The simple answer is NO, for non-parity RAID such as RAID 0 or RAID 1 (mirror). The CPU overhead that you can offload to a dedicated card only becomes an issue with parity RAID, 5 or 6, as it's calculating that parity (getting the data of a particular byte in a stripe for every disk in the RAID set, then doing an XOR or similar operation on those bytes, then writing it out to the parity stripe/disk or checking it against the previously calculated parity byte there) that is time-intensive when it's done only in software.

Check the Hardware/Storage subforum for in-depth discussion on this. But bottom line: if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID and are only using RAID 0 or 1, you are better off saving the money or adding more disks to your RAID set for more speed. A RAID card would be wasted.

[TouGe]

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

Could you tell me how you did it?

I flashed all 3 files using the web service to version 1.44 and I still get the BIOS not found error on boot-up. I have it plugged into the second pci 16 slot w/ no hard drives attached. I don't want to attach my hard drives until I know for sure that at boot-up my Areca BIOS is found. Any suggestions?

[REVHEAD]

The simple answer is NO, for non-parity RAID such as RAID 0 or RAID 1 (mirror). The CPU overhead that you can offload to a dedicated card only becomes an issue with parity RAID, 5 or 6, as it's calculating that parity (getting the data of a particular byte in a stripe for every disk in the RAID set, then doing an XOR or similar operation on those bytes, then writing it out to the parity stripe/disk or checking it against the previously calculated parity byte there) that is time-intensive when it's done only in software.

Check the Hardware/Storage subforum for in-depth discussion on this. But bottom line: if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID and are only using RAID 0 or 1, you are better off saving the money or adding more disks to your RAID set for more speed. A RAID card would be wasted.

Thanks ,this explains everything to me , its all clear now , I guess it looks like I wont need a raid card then

[IanB]

if you are using disks that your mobo Southbridge supports in RAID

Just to clarify - that's the important caveat. Check compatability first around the forums, see if anyone has had problems with particular drive models on your mobo. I'm thinking of the well-known Asus P5K Premium issues here, that's my situ and I need a RAID card simply to overcome that and be sure I can attach recent disks (Samsung/WD) without problems. But I think you're using GigaByte, so you should be fine with most makes.

[lowbid]

confirm.. asus maximus extreme and areca 1210 statup BIOS entering works now

about TIME! with 1.44 firmware

yep it works with new firmware 1.44 on a maximus extreme in the white slot.

thanks guys

[monsieurtof]

hello

Scuse my language, i'm french.

is what some of you have activated the raid mode Intel with their card controler ?

Can you get to Intel matrix storage (CRTL+I)

Thanks