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    Quote Originally Posted by astrallite View Post
    Lol I'd like to see what the 8800 Ultra's scores are on Very High. I'm guessing it's chugging along at 20fps.
    think 2 x 8800 Ultra SLI will run this game on highest setting + high res ?

    Or do we have to wait till the 9 series for that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post

    Ah huh, See what I mean ?

    8800GT is so much better than 2900XT.

    2900XT can't even do high resolution (HD TV res) (ATI wouldn't let you do such res).
    When that game start a big Nvidia logo apears on the screen. So relax, and let ATI driver team optimize that game, because Nvidia is already optimized by day one.
    In the end you will have botth cards equal

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    8700?

    Any news on the 8700? I know it's supposed to be OEM only but still interested to see where it fits in...

    Also for all the ATI naysayers, let's not forget all the info suggests the launch date of the 8800GT was brought up (mid Novemember appears to have been the original plan) and the price appears to have been brought down (originally everyone was saying $299) because of the RV670... All in all, it appears some level of competition is back which is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    think 2 x 8800 Ultra SLI will run this game on highest setting + high res ?

    Or do we have to wait till the 9 series for that ?
    I'd definitely say the 9 series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinch View Post
    I'd definitely say the 9 series.
    OUCH !

    Guess playing Crysis highest setting with the 8800GT is no no.
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    Tweak the settings...for goodness sakes.

    Why do people get dumber as they get better and better hardware ?? There IS an advanced video settings tab just for YOU.

    If we don't use them, in the future companies will just come out with games with a 0 video options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Tweak the settings...for goodness sakes.

    Why do people get dumber as they get better and better hardware ?? There IS an advanced video settings tab just for YOU.

    If we don't use them, in the future companies will just come out with games with a 0 video options.

    Perkam
    They already have em.

    It's called Console.
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    I have'em tweaked as much as I can. I'm left with DX9 1280x1024, all high except shadows and post processing medium, that's the best I can do. That's with a GTX and Q6600 @3.6 mind you.

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    tweaktown has faked results and the proof is right there on their page
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k05/index.html
    on a quad core 3Ghz a HD2900XT with catalyst 7.9 in 1024x768 scores 15534 points.Well this is just a BIG LIE everybody knows that would score at least 18000 so there you go another paid article from Nvidia.And about crysis i don't think nvidia is so good in a shader intensive game like that i think HD2900XT with a driver will kick so much butt like 8800GTS 320,640 and maybe even an stock 8800GT i just impossible for HD2900XT to lose in crysis wich is so hard on shader power will see with new driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptr1aa View Post
    tweaktown has faked results and the proof is right there on their page
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k05/index.html
    on a quad core 3Ghz a HD2900XT with catalyst 7.9 in 1024x768 scores 15534 points.Well this is just a BIG LIE everybody knows that would score at least 18000 so there you go another paid article from Nvidia.And about crysis i don't think nvidia is so good in a shader intensive game like that i think HD2900XT with a driver will kick so much butt like 8800GTS 320,640 and maybe even an stock 8800GT i just impossible for HD2900XT to lose in crysis wich is so hard on shader power will see with new driver.
    Different computer setup varies very differently on benchmark scores.

    You don't think Nvidia is any good in shader heavy game ? 8800GT is built for heavy shader games in mind.

    And your agruement on ATI driver are invalid until we actually have this 'new' driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptr1aa View Post
    tweaktown has faked results and the proof is right there on their page
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k05/index.html
    on a quad core 3Ghz a HD2900XT with catalyst 7.9 in 1024x768 scores 15534 points..

    i will run a 3dmark 2005 with HD2900XT & Q6600@3Ghz to see how it scores .


    However the hd2900XT 3dmark 2006 score (11200marks) in that review >> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k06/index.html






    And I Got 12500 marks with HD2900XT DEFAULT 3dmark 2006 also with quad-core @ 3ghz and also with Windows XP (same as review)









    but maybe in tweaktown review only the hd2900XT scores are wrong and the 8800GT could be OK , we dont know

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    we'll just have to wait and test it for ourselves! thats the only way were gonna have real results
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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    the hd2900XT 3dmark 2006 score (11200marks) >> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k06/index.html

    I Got 12500 marks with HD2900XT DEFAULT 3dmark 2006 also with quad-core @ 3ghz and also with Windows XP (same as review)

    Well, HIS HD 2900XT 512MB they are using are of little lower clock than yours.

    Also, we do not know what ATI driver they are using when tested that card.

    But I know that Nvidia's new driver improves all benches by 500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    Well, HIS HD 2900XT 512MB they are using are of little lower clock than yours.

    Also, we do not know what ATI driver they are using when tested that card.

    litlle lower cloks than mine How??? default HD2900XT cloks are 743/828 for all cards .................


    His HD2900XT has exactly the same clocks

    >> http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_sp.php?id=304

    >>> http://www.overclockercafe.com/Revie...00XT/index.htm


    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    Also, we do not know what ATI driver they are using when tested that card.


    they used catalyst 7.9


    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post

    But I know that Nvidia's new driver improves all benches by 500.
    yep they used that new driver , thats why i said mybe only the Hd2900XT scores are wrong and the 8800GT scores are OK , we dont know



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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    litlle lower cloks than mine How??? default HD2900XT cloks are 743/828 for all cards .................


    His HD290=XT has exactly the same clocks >>> http://www.overclockercafe.com/Revie...00XT/index.htm
    ???

    Newegg shows it being 740 ?

    Letmme check again.

    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    thats why i said myabe only the HD2900XT are wrong and the 8800GT could be OK
    Yeah, who knows.

    Maybe they didn't brother re-testing and just used scores they tested WAY Before or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    ???

    Newegg shows it being 740 ?

    Letmme check again.
    yeh , default core clock for hd2900XT its 740mhz( 743mhz to be excalty)

    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    ???



    Yeah, who knows.

    Maybe they didn't brother re-testing and just used scores they tested WAY Before or something.
    yep maybe they used "old" HD2900XT tests done with Dual core (not too old because they used CAT 7.9)



    well i go run a 3dmark 2005 to see how it scores


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    now where is that G92 GTS i heard so much about .... if it can beat GTX or even ultra for ~$350 im in
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    Quote Originally Posted by theteamaqua View Post
    now where is that G92 GTS i heard so much about .... if it can beat GTX or even ultra for ~$350 im in
    mid-November is where the rumor hits at.

    But since the lack of information, I'm not waiting.

    Even if it turns out better, you can always use the EVGA's step up to switch to the new GTS. A win-win situation for all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theteamaqua View Post
    now where is that G92 GTS i heard so much about .... if it can beat GTX or even ultra for ~$350 im in
    yep should be a great card!!


    rumors say 19Th november (1 week after 780i release) >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...23&postcount=1








    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    i will run a 3dmark 2005 with HD2900XT & Q6600@3Ghz to see how it scores .





    OK i Just run now 2k5


    tweaktown review (15534 marks) :






    my score (18857 marks ):






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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhell View Post
    mid-November is where the rumor hits at.

    But since the lack of information, I'm not waiting.

    Even if it turns out better, you can always use the EVGA's step up to switch to the new GTS. A win-win situation for all of us.
    OH !

    I have a quick question.

    Does EVGA from newegg step-up ?

    If not, how bout tigerdirect ? Clubit ?

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    guys the MSI 8800GT used on tweaktown review is overcloked version and they used windows XP , thats why scores 13.7K

    The standard clocks come in at 600MHz on the GPU and 1800MHz DDR on the GDDR3. MSI have decided to mix it up a bit; the core gets a 10% increase to 660MHz while the memory gets bumped to 1900MHz DDR.


    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/3

    i got 700+ extra marks with 60mhz overclok in core and Only 58mhz in memory on hd2900XT


    HD2900XT default (743mhz/1656mhz) = 12925 marks









    HD2900xt @ 800mhz/1714mhz = 13625 marks









    MSI 8800GT used in twektown review has a Overclok of 60mhz core and 100mhz memory , i think that should give about +800 extra marks , so a Non OC 8800GT version should score around 12.9K ( Windows XP )


    with Nvidia cards from windows XP to windows Vista scores usualy go down about 900maks , so they probably scores around 11900marks with windows Vista ????


    so maybe this score are correct:




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    Well it's a factory overclock, it's not like Tweaktown was cheating.

    There are 3 8800GT SKUs, so if anything this will be an average of the 8800GT performance. From price side you can just as likely find the stock one at the same price as an OC or OC2 with the wide variety of prices from etailers. This was the same MSI OC that Clubit was selling for $230.

    If anything I'd be interested to see the OC2 performance, to see how much of a gap there is between OC2 and GTX, to get an idea of how nVidia will manage to insert a 8800 GTS 640mb SKU that really can differentiate itself from the GT and GTX unless we are all talking about minor percentage points. That reminds me, if the 8800GTS is going to be in the $350 range, shouldn't the GTX get dropped down to $399?
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrallite View Post
    Well it's a factory overclock, it's not like Tweaktown was cheating.


    i didnt say that , did I???

    i said that the card its overcloked (because nobody saw that , including me )

    tweaktow even say they used a overcloked oversion (not they fault , our fault we didnt saw)


    the only thing i said was that hd2900XT scores were wrong and i proved ...........


    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras

    so i would say that maybe they shoud score about 12800/12900 marks with that new 169.01 driver , Quad-core @ 3ghz , and Windows Vista

    if the new forceware 169.01 also give +500 extra marks in windows XP and the difference from XP to Vista in 2k6 its around 900 marks then tweaktown score maybe its right ........


    8800GT + Quad-core @ 3ghz & 167.26 driver (windows Vista) = ~12300 marks ( then if using 169.01 with +500 extra marks = ~12800marks)

    12800 marks with windows Vista , if the difference from windows XP to Windows Vista its around 900 marks then >>> 12800 marks + 900 marks = 13700 marks (tweaktown score)


    anyone know the difference in 2k6 from XP to Vista ??



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    Quote Originally Posted by ptr1aa View Post
    tweaktown has faked results and the proof is right there on their page
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k05/index.html
    on a quad core 3Ghz a HD2900XT with catalyst 7.9 in 1024x768 scores 15534 points..



    i will run a 3dmark 2005 with HD2900XT & Q6600@3Ghz to see how it scores .


    However the hd2900XT 3dmark 2006 score (11200marks) in that review >> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/121...k06/index.html


    And I Got 12500 marks with HD2900XT DEFAULT 3dmark 2006 also with quad-core @ 3ghz and also with Windows XP (same as review)


    :



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    Microsoft presents Direct3D 10.1 at SIGGRAPH

    At the annual SIGGRAPH (Special Interest Group for Computer GRAPHics) conference - more exciting than it sounds, Microsoft presented a lecture on the new Direct3D graphics platform and even newer Direct3D 10.1 framework. The whole course has been subsequently published to Microsoft Downloads. Here is their Powerpoint presentation for a quick summary.

    Direct3D 10.1 looks to be quite a significant release for DirectX. Some of the interesting points to note:

    * Will require Windows Vista SP1
    * Not “supported” by current-generation DX10 hardware
    * “Extension” to Direct3D 10 - “complete” D3D10
    * 5 new API
    * Improves rendering quality
    o Enforces floating point 32 rendering
    o Enforces 4x multi-sample anti-aliasing (MSAA)

    For argument’s sake, Direct3D 10.1 didn’t come out of the blue. Microsoft had always planned for a 10.1 update when they released version 10. However that is no excuse as to why is it not compatible with DX10 hardware? People who have to dish out hundreds of premium dollars to buy DirectX-10 hardware today will be outdated in less than 6 months.
    http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...-101-siggraph/
    Even though DX10.1 will support current DX10 graphics hardware, today's DX10 hardware will not be able to support all of the features of DX10.1, which includes incremental improvements to 3D rendering quality.
    http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=6824&Itemid=2

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    date of article : 8th august


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