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    Angry EA Wants an “Open, Standard Platform”

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    EA’s Gerhard Florin says that EA – and developers in general – are tired of the extra work that comes along with having five different platforms which are incompatible with one another. He also says it makes life harder on the consumer.

    “We want an open, standard platform which is much easier than having five which are not compatible,” said EA’s head of international publishing.

    EA currently develops games for 14 platforms (too bad one of them isn’t the Dreamcast, maybe it would have done well in that case), which span home consoles, handhelds, and PCs. Florin said, “We’re platform agnostic and we definitely don’t want to have one platform which is a walled garden.”

    He suggested that in the future, web and set-top boxes will be become more important, and that server-based games will be streamed to those boxes or PCs. “You don’t need an Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii - the consumer won’t even realise the platform it is being played on.”

    Some think this is a brilliant idea. Others, like Denis Dyack, believe that a single system is the way to go. And there are those who believe this concept is insanity and that it’ll never work. Which side of the argument do you fall on?
    EA does what it does best, cripples PC gaming with their crappy mult platform games that brings the PC's graphics down to console's level ... same thing happened to bioshock, and oblivion from 2k games... ie.. make games for 360 (pick one with lower graphics capabilities) and port all that texture, UI, levels back to PC, and release both at the same time, so PC max out = 360 (of course u can turn AA up all the way, and the resolution... but still, the content is the same @ everything max out )

    Splintercell 4 DA on PC anyone?? that game was prolly one of the worst port (360 > PC) i have played.... in the game folder there r many files that have the name "xenon.ini" "xenos.ini" .. and many other ini files with "360" in it
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    Won't happen, so no need to worry.
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    Unless someone patents a technology that makes traditional gaming obsolete, not gonna happen. It would have to be a virtual reality technology that was so cheap and so heavily locked down patent-wise that there could be only one company and one system.
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    do any consoles have the ability to run dx10 designed games??? if not console market is waayyyyy behind already.
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    EA is soo full of it. This will create bigger idiocy that the intel mac tards who clapped their hands in excitement for 5 overpriced old cider wrapped titles, just so they could play Battlefied 2 with a massive FPS hit to not have to bootcamp.
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    Every software developer since the down of computers wanted that...
    and every attempt at it failed horribly since it prohibits innovation.
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    Well nothing coming from EA surprises me anymore, EA changed a lot over these years, it is currently doing upside down businesses mainly because it has acquired many small companies and its thinking/strategy domination market is getting in its head. It is sad but I do love Command and Conquer and I play time to time but what upsets me is the fact the online gaming play done by EA lags the game, only people like me with upload stream of 768 kbps and download stream of 20Mb can play C&C 3 peaceful, also I hate the fact C&C can only be played with full screen view. So the people used to love EA because it sure used to do nice games/gameplay but it changed and make me sad the hatred that many of us have over this company.

    What EA wants is to reduce development cost by 1/5, meaning take away many jobs or if EA is not that sarcastic, open or split up developers with new franchise/games creations. It is a company after all, so as long as EA is making profit and gaining market share is the important for its CEO's.

    They will not get it easily because no one of the companies want to lose any of their belongings.

    Make it up gaming nation!!

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    This is not surprising coming from EA, where is the 3rd option in that debate, the one where you choose not to buy/care what EA does/says?

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    I don't know why people are so against this...if we had an open standard, like OpenGL is, it would at least be easier to port games, right? Makes sense to me. For all those complaining that PC's get bad ports, this would pretty much guarantee cross-platform unity as far as game performance goes. Whether or not they decide to make the software the same(ie. bonus material for a specific system) could still be up to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryboto View Post
    I don't know why people are so against this...if we had an open standard, like OpenGL is, it would at least be easier to port games, right? Makes sense to me. For all those complaining that PC's get bad ports, this would pretty much guarantee cross-platform unity as far as game performance goes. Whether or not they decide to make the software the same(ie. bonus material for a specific system) could still be up to them.
    An Example, you have a market selling fruits in your city, it is giving you profit. So by instance you want to open something nearby with a different business type like selling fruits and utensils, I am sure you do not want to be restricted to only sell fruits in your new market. So If they create an open platform means you have to follow rules by a central standard. Do you want to sell fruits your whole life or expand your market and start selling utensils?

    Would be much better if we could only eat rice for rice producers because is the standard food in many countries, God knows how good the Globalization is. They may create a open standard platform but I doubt many of them will follow it, meaning failure.

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    I call it lazy-ness. Valve ported orange box over the x360 and PS3, and their engines get better performance than any EA engine could hope to have, you don't seem them complaining.
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    One world under EA.

    I can't stand any company/person who does not show pride in the work that they do. Releasing the same sports titles every year, only this time with 10 MB more textures, or just cheaping out on doing a port...........No pride man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    I call it lazy-ness. Valve ported orange box over the x360 and PS3, and their engines get better performance than any EA engine could hope to have, you don't seem them complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    I call it lazy-ness. Valve ported orange box over the x360 and PS3, and their engines get better performance than any EA engine could hope to have, you don't seem them complaining.
    Thats because redesigned the engine so it has segments its swaps out depending upon the target HW, they designed it properly. To get their game over to the PS3? All they have to do is design the parts of the engine that are HW specific and recompile with them plugged in. Granted the PS3s HW is so radically different thats easier than it sounds but its still how the engine works. If you wanna see what i mean poke through the code you get form the SDK, you can see lots of code snippets for 360's only that are copiled into the game instead.

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    Whats an EA? The big bank is newbie kids with the cheap shut jr up fix on console games. PS3 and like advanced consoles should envision cross platform play or at least a bottom line coding that is very similar. Were talking about a young industry here though And I personally feel as though advancements like cell in the ps3 are great ways to push things forward; of course the inherent problem is that its too new to capitalize on in short order.

    Each major step is plagued by complaints from the fab to the multithread coders. There is no easy fix for EA and really no point in crying about it.
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    I don't understand what their point is, obviously they develop games on all existing platforms and obviously are making money on each so what are they B*tching about?

    More Capitalistic greed in action...universal Platform and what have a handful of people in house developing and let go of 2/3 of the development staff and push all of the work on the remaining people for the same pay wage

    This is just one of the many reasons I will not have anything to do with that sh*tty company on any level! Look at BF2 ~ 2 1/2 years later and the frigging patches still wreak havoc on you're system....total Bull sh*t is all they produce and have the nerve they do...unreal.
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    EA is sinking due to poor follow through on titles and likely bad management from promoting paranoid moron programmers. And it reeks of an executive staff that is disconnected from the product. <<< all rambling with no proof.

    They can make cash by selling studios. look at Bathesda, the investors were in an uproar before oblivion came out, they were wanting the ceo's head. And Atari where the CEO was the CFO and the CIO and he finally resigned.

    Game studios shouldnt be absorbed by the borg, eventually the real minds behind the games leave the strangled woes of corporate life for free spaces.
    Game programmers are artists and artists thrive on appreciation and evolution. Corporations dull such notions to a sluggish crawl.
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    So... making dodgy console ports is too hard already? LOL
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    EA Wants an “Open, Standard Platform”

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    EA Wants an single platfoorm so that its cheap remakes dont have to be ported to other systems but just work on other platfoorms on thier own.

    Minimizing the cost, time and work it takes to get a crappy remake out on every system.

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    EA Wants an “Open, Standard Platform”
    i agree - DIE CONSOLES! LONG LIVE PCs!

    no big deal! it's their own fault when they focused on consoles instead on pc gaming back then to make more money. and now they're whining. LMAO! ridiculous.
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    All I got was "Boo-hoo we have to work harder to maximise profit"

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    So basically EA wants a PC with pre-determined specs?
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    open standard platform is a euphimism for EA to make more money with less programmers and people converting code to different platforms, hence less overhead.
    There is an open platform you idiots, it's called the pc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn. View Post
    EA Wants an “Open, Standard Platform”

    reads

    EA Wants an single platfoorm so that its cheap remakes dont have to be ported to other systems but just work on other platfoorms on thier own.

    Minimizing the cost, time and work it takes to get a crappy remake out on every system.

    EA is the devil
    EA isn't the devil, it's just a smart company that wants to monopolize its market
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