First Details of Windows 7 Emerge

**xanvincent** · 10-20-2007, 09:15 AM

Good, now I get to skip over Vista completely

Hopefully we'll see a 10% performance gain instead of drop (ie. Vista) with the new Windows in games and benchmarks.

**generics_user** · 10-20-2007, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rock&Roll

Haha. I too cannot believe people think there will be a DX10 hack for XP

there is still some hope

i just don't want to give up the snappiness of windows version 2003

i got xp63 on my pc and server 2003 32bit on my laptop (lack of 64bit drivers...) , and i LOVE it...

i dropped vista after it failed to finish copying my backup to the ext hdd (kaspersky+ 16k+ files problem....) and i had to setup xp on my second array to get my data out of the system

maybe SP1 can bring me over to VISTA

**frankR** · 10-20-2007, 10:09 AM

I hate bloat ware.

**MrChubz** · 10-20-2007, 05:16 PM

If this OS comes out early enough for me to skip Vista then I'll forgive M$ for making Vista to begin with.

**ineedaname** · 10-20-2007, 05:49 PM

A small kernel footprint would b great but right now its just 2 early to really draw any conclusions.

It wouldn't be surprising tho since the future of OS's are going mobile.

Like everyone else here I'd like to see this soon so I can skip vista but MS isn't stupid enough 2 release it 2 close 2 vista.

Hopefully they'll have 2 release it sooner so that they don't fall behind in the mobile market.

**NightCrawler™** · 10-21-2007, 01:52 AM

Is this nnsteps' XSOS3.0...???

**Den Leiw** · 10-21-2007, 03:22 AM

and hopefully there will only be a 64bit version of that OS to force everyone to release decent&optimized drivers/programs/etc for 64bit

**MGreg** · 10-21-2007, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Den Leiw

and hopefully there will only be a 64bit version of that OS to force everyone to release decent&optimized drivers/programs/etc for 64bit

I agree, it'd be time to go 64bit only. Then they can bring out the 128bit stuff lol.

**RPGWiZaRD** · 10-21-2007, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by NightCrawler™

Is this nnsteps' XSOS3.0...???

Good point there. I guess that's the most reasonable explanation why the king of bloatware and "family computer concept" would suddenly start talking kernel optimization.

Well perhaps their eyes have finally opened and other freeware OS with a very light footprint starts gaining popularity, perhaps they'd finally realize what many people would want. Well I hope...

**HungryForHertz** · 10-21-2007, 07:03 AM

It's unlikely that we will be so lucky.

The majority of Microsoft users really don't care if the OS is 2 gig or 20. They upgrade OS when they upgrade computer and since storage is cheaper they get more of it when they upgrade anyway so it makes no difference to them.

It may start small, but watch it expand. Microsoft will play to it's biggest customer base who like to see all the pretty, pointless things that serve an unnecessary purpose.

If Microsoft go both ways, releasing a speed optimised version just running vital services and a bloated version then it would be a double win and us, the performance computers would be overjoyed but it's incredibly unlikely.

**Origin_Unknown** · 10-21-2007, 07:16 AM

i think you'll find they do. A customer of our's has between 500 - 1000 pc's / laptops and i can tell you now that they definatly would NOT like to upgrade all there hard drives if the OS install got any bigger. Same goes with school's too

**HungryForHertz** · 10-21-2007, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

i think you'll find they do. A customer of our's has between 500 - 1000 pc's / laptops and i can tell you now that they definatly would NOT like to upgrade all there hard drives if the OS install got any bigger. Same goes with school's too

Perhaps not now. But this new windows won't be released for at least 3 years and storage gets cheaper year on year, not to mention that I doubt your client will instantly want to upgrade to the new OS. And by that time, perhaps 4+ years from now, chances are your client will have upgraded with more space...

**Origin_Unknown** · 10-21-2007, 07:30 AM

quite true.... they only upgraded to windows xp about 2 years ago

... from windows 95 no less

(i wouldnt like to buy as many licences as they had)

**HungryForHertz** · 10-21-2007, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

quite true.... they only upgraded to windows xp about 2 years ago

... from windows 95 no less

(i wouldnt like to buy as many licences as they had)

Oh my god.

Obviously up to date systems are not vital to the business.

General question, why Windows 7? It's not the 7th Windows!

**fireice2** · 10-21-2007, 07:49 AM

Gamers who wants to skip vista coz of a few performance hits will miss out a lot of dx 10 optimized games.

**HungryForHertz** · 10-21-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by fireice2

Gamers who wants to skip vista coz of a few performance hits will miss out a lot of dx 10 optimized games.

That they could just buy when this next, faster Windows comes out?

**RaZz!** · 10-21-2007, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by HungryForHertz

That they could just buy when this next, faster Windows comes out?

mh, well, would you buy farcry now instead of 3 years ago? so for 3 years you're missing something =P

**fireice2** · 10-21-2007, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by RaZz!

mh, well, would you buy farcry now instead of 3 years ago? so for 3 years you're missing something =P

And tell everyone in 2010 how fast 2007 games runs on your uber new windows 7 based rig.

**Bobsama** · 10-21-2007, 08:21 AM

While we're at it, might as well get that 64-bit hack for Win98SE.

**HungryForHertz** · 10-21-2007, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by RaZz!

mh, well, would you buy farcry now instead of 3 years ago? so for 3 years you're missing something =P

Well at this rate, DX10 based and juiced games won't be out till 2010 anyway!

**MuffinFlavored** · 10-21-2007, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by naokaji

in my opinion they should only have one sku of the win7, and then simply have a few checkboxes during install which bloatware you want and which not resulting in either fast basic os for my gaming pleasure or bloatware for my granny.. you get the idea...

Yeah, but then they will be all enabled by default, and when shipped with OEM, yeah.

I mean, it sounds cool.
But, how about Microsoft stops switching from extremes of GUI, and focus on pure performance.

Is it me, or isn't like, the first impression is the greatest?

Well, stop taking the approach of "oh we will fix it in a couple of months, atleast some things work" "first impressions".

I may switch to Vista due to DX10.

Originally Posted by Bobsama

While we're at it, might as well get that 64-bit hack for Win98SE.

I use to go to a forum called "GamerzPlanet", and I will never forget.
A 40 year old woman, named gameuser, who was amazingly talented at coding ASM, had a strict belief that Windows 98 was the way to go, and she still uses it to this day.

**Jeff** · 10-22-2007, 03:27 AM

I can't help but feel that I've been ahead of the game(ie. Microsoft) sticking with Win2k and Win2k3(and TinyXP to some extent).

**iddqd** · 10-22-2007, 05:31 AM

Yeah, I've heard that Vista would be the last monolithic OS microsoft releases for the desktop market. The next one will be highly modular, with most of the basic modules released early, and more added later.

**newls1** · 10-22-2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Repoman

Cool, I can skip Vista altogether. I like my 16 processes in XP, with the OS still fully functional for me needs

BINGO

**Nikolasz** · 10-22-2007, 03:11 PM

Xp is good for me too.at 16/42/32 processes
I got noting gained by installing vista, maybe more frustratings

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