Official ASUS X38 Boards: P5E, P5E3 - Info/BIOS Thread

[lowtcell]

Need some assistance with p5e and Q9550 Yorkie. Max FSB I can hit is 433. Beyond that, no boot, and that's at 5:6 divider. I can't post at all with 1:1. Tried Bios 702 and 605, same result.

[wyemarn]

I just flashed my P5E to Rampage Formula 0403 BIOS. A whole lot of tweaking features are unlocked now and almost the whole range of voltages can be read with Rampage BIOS. Very impressive. Thumbs down for ASUS for locking the features on P5E BIOS. I seriously recommend everyone to try this to unleash the full potential of their P5E board.

[WeldZilla]

According top your sig your are running at 3.2ghz
So why don't you show us how incredibly high you can clock now with the Rampage bios and show us some P5E bios to rampage bios comparisons in the benches. You know, wow us with maybe a 3.4ghz oc now.
I run my wolfdale every day of the week at 4.5 ghz. and that is on the P5E bios 601 which I believe has been the best thus far. So put your numbersd up and let us see this great difference your bios change made......


WZ

[wyemarn]

According top your sig your are running at 3.2ghz
So why don't you show us how incredibly high you can clock now with the Rampage bios and show us some P5E bios to rampage bios comparisons in the benches. You know, wow us with maybe a 3.4ghz oc now.
I run my wolfdale every day of the week at 4.5 ghz. and that is on the P5E bios 601 which I believe has been the best thus far. So put your numbersd up and let us see this great difference your bios change made......


WZ

3.2 is the max I would want to go with my Q6600 because anything higher requires more than 1.35V and my temps are hitting 60s at 3.2Ghz because i prefer low noise. Overclocking wise, I think my Q6600 is limiting me because I got the L804 batch with 1.325V which are proven bad clockers. I don't think even with Rampage BIOS my overclocking will improve. The only thing worth mentioning is the amount of tweaking options and voltage reading ability which is locked by the P5E bios. After flashing to Rampage bios, you can fine tune a lot of tweaking options and have the ability to monitor NB, SB, PLL, VTT, DIMM voltages. It's still a X38 board but with a wonderful BIOS. Too bad ASUS paired a wonderful board with a crippled BIOS. P5E with Rampage BIOS would make it perfect.

[necron66]

3.2 is the max I would want to go with my Q6600 because anything higher requires more than 1.35V and my temps are hitting 60s at 3.2Ghz because i prefer low noise. Overclocking wise, I think my Q6600 is limiting me because I got the L804 batch with 1.325V which are proven bad clockers. I don't think even with Rampage BIOS my overclocking will improve. The only thing worth mentioning is the amount of tweaking options and voltage reading ability which is locked by the P5E bios. After flashing to Rampage bios, you can fine tune a lot of tweaking options and have the ability to monitor NB, SB, PLL, VTT, DIMM voltages. It's still a X38 board but with a wonderful BIOS. Too bad ASUS paired a wonderful board with a crippled BIOS. P5E with Rampage BIOS would make it perfect.

Na thats not correct mate. Those readings you are seeing for NB, SB ect are false. The P5E has those sensors removed (making it cheaper than the Maximums), so what you are seeing with the rampage bios is not correct, so don't make descions based off that.

[mu||et]

I am @ 3.4 now with my X3350 @ 1.250Vcore but at 440 I run into trouble.

[Millyons]

Na thats not correct mate. Those readings you are seeing for NB, SB ect are false. The P5E has those sensors removed (making it cheaper than the Maximums), so what you are seeing with the rampage bios is not correct, so don't make descions based off that.

Is that 100% tested and correct?

I see that the P5E are missing the external sensors, but actualy how can they remove sensors out of the winbound chips that do it


wyemarn> can you test that out by changing values in bios and see if the changes?

[wyemarn]

Na thats not correct mate. Those readings you are seeing for NB, SB ect are false. The P5E has those sensors removed (making it cheaper than the Maximums), so what you are seeing with the rampage bios is not correct, so don't make descions based off that.

Is that 100% tested and correct?

I see that the P5E are missing the external sensors, but actualy how can they remove sensors out of the winbound chips that do it


wyemarn> can you test that out by changing values in bios and see if the changes?

Temp readings for NB and SB is availabe but they are not correct because sensor is missing. I'm not sure about voltage readings though. I'll try changing those values and report back. Everest can display all the voltage readings too with Rampage bios. I'll try changing the voltages and report back.

[necron66]

Is that 100% tested and correct?

I see that the P5E are missing the external sensors, but actualy how can they remove sensors out of the winbound chips that do it


wyemarn> can you test that out by changing values in bios and see if the changes?

The only 1 had tested with DMM is vDIMM, and what it said in the Rampage bios for vDIMM was way under what I had set in the bios and what in reality the overvolt gave me.

I guess they can't remove the sensors out of the winbond chip, but they can excluse to put the other end of the sensor on, if thats how it works.

I'm happy to load up a Rampage bios and measure things like NB, SB, VTT ect and make a comparision if you want to provide a nice detailed picture of the read points.

[PaRn ssR]

I like bios 0702

[aiya_au]

0702 bios made my computer not boot. i got no video signal. i unpluged the power from the wall, took out the bios battery, triggered the switch, left its for 10mins, booted up, no video signal.

took my pc8500 ram out, put in my bro's pc6400 ram, it booted up fine, lowered the ram speed. put my crucials ballistix back in, its all working fine again.

asus, how about fix the ram problem already!! it was running at 500 5-5-5-15 when it wasn't booting. its meant to run at 533 5-5-5-15. its now running at 445mhz until u fix the dam problem thats been around for so long...

[godsfist]

0702 bios made my computer not boot. i got no video signal. i unpluged the power from the wall, took out the bios battery, triggered the switch, left its for 10mins, booted up, no video signal.

took my pc8500 ram out, put in my bro's pc6400 ram, it booted up fine, lowered the ram speed. put my crucials ballistix back in, its all working fine again.

asus, how about fix the ram problem already!! it was running at 500 5-5-5-15 when it wasn't booting. its meant to run at 533 5-5-5-15. its now running at 445mhz until u fix the dam problem thats been around for so long...

Same here, just get a blank screen when powering up.. and I don't have any other ram

Any ideas?

[godsfist]

Problem solved.. I upgraded to a Gigabyte X48-DS5, what a pleasure their @bios is to use.. anyway good luck chaps.

[necron66]

Problem solved.. I upgraded to a Gigabyte X48-DS5, what a pleasure their @bios is to use.. anyway good luck chaps.

I was thinking of a X48-DQ6.

[WeldZilla]

Yeah wyemarn those p5e bios' are just terrible!!!!
Here is my Q6600 with

This was bios 502, which by the way works great with a Q6600. You need also to improve your cooling cuz with excellent cooling you can throw the volts at your Q6600 with no problems
This 6600 of mine has bewen getting around 1.6 now for 8 months with no problems


Ans we al know how terrible the P5E is with it's memory dividers!!! YUCK............

Then why do mine work so well????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??
5:6

4:5

3:4

OK, how about a little 2:3 action?


The P5E is the absolute best board I have used to date!!! I have a couple of them.
One for my Q6600 and one for my E8400. These boards are followed closely by my P5KE wifi which
rocks with yet another E8400 but, the P5E just crushes it clock for clock. Oh and My P5N-e runs a e6300 easily at 475fsb daily on air.
These boards all have one common ingredient. All my system run G.Skill 6400 HZ That's right I have 12 sticks here in the room
I have 2 that are not in use as a back up in case a couple die. As you can see from the posted pic G.Skill HZ clocks to beat hell!!

Now quit whining about this board people, the board is NOT the problem........

Oh and here is a shot with the board and the E8400 Now with the E8400 bios 601 is the absolute best and the only one I will use and I have tried them all!!!


And for you guys limited to low fsb such as say 414 or there abouts .with the G.Skill you can help compensate for your low bus by really dividing
UP!! your memory. like this


That's right DDR1325!!! Alright now get the right cooling going and the right memory and the right attitude!!

WZ

[aiya_au]

Now quit whining about this board people, the board is NOT the problem........

You should have done some research before you posted. Its not the board thats the problem, its the bios. people that run PC8500 ram (not PC6400 like you are running) with ANY bios can't run it stable at stock settings. we can't POST, get BSOD's inside windows etc etc.

whats the point of spending all this money getting high performance ram when it needs to be clocked down just to be stable. this problem has been around for ages and ASUS havn't done anything to fix it. The ram problem only exists for bios' after 0207 (i think), so people with older cpu's are fine, but if you have later cpu's that need a later bios to recognise it and you have PC8500 ram, then your out of luck until ASUS decides to fix it

[godsfist]

I was thinking of a X48-DQ6.

Bah bloody crazy cool has to be dismantled for a decent cooler and the only other difference is triple bios versus quad bios.. save yourself a few bucks and some fiddling about

[godsfist]

Now quit whining about this board people, the board is NOT the problem........

No it's not the problem, it's their pathetic bios.. but as I said, no problems whatsoever with the Gigabyte.. ahhh stability, it's good to have you back!

[WeldZilla]

You should have done the research first then you would have known which memory to buy to go along with this board. glad your happy gf. But 4.05 is do able with about anything

[godsfist]

You should have done the research first then you would have known which memory to buy to go along with this board. glad your happy gf. But 4.05 is do able with about anything

Yeah right, try to keep up, had the board for 6 months but the latest bios borked the memory.. like I said, gone Gigabyte and pretty damn happy about it

[wyemarn]

Here are the screenshots on the chipset reading capabilities after flashing my P5E to Rampage bios.

Stock volt settings


Stock volt readings


OC volt settings


OC volt readings

[BulldogPO]

does anyoune have experiences with P5E3 WS PRO 0610 bios?

[Ice009]

You should have done some research before you posted. Its not the board thats the problem, its the bios. people that run PC8500 ram (not PC6400 like you are running) with ANY bios can't run it stable at stock settings. we can't POST, get BSOD's inside windows etc etc.

whats the point of spending all this money getting high performance ram when it needs to be clocked down just to be stable. this problem has been around for ages and ASUS havn't done anything to fix it. The ram problem only exists for bios' after 0207 (i think), so people with older cpu's are fine, but if you have later cpu's that need a later bios to recognise it and you have PC8500 ram, then your out of luck until ASUS decides to fix it

I had no idea about this issue. So you're saying you can't run 1066 RAM at all with this board?? Any brand of RAM? I was going to get this board. I don't think I will now.

Is this a problem with the Rampage Formula too? as that is a similar board or only the P5E?

[necron66]

You should have done some research before you posted. Its not the board thats the problem, its the bios. people that run PC8500 ram (not PC6400 like you are running) with ANY bios can't run it stable at stock settings. we can't POST, get BSOD's inside windows etc etc.

whats the point of spending all this money getting high performance ram when it needs to be clocked down just to be stable. this problem has been around for ages and ASUS havn't done anything to fix it. The ram problem only exists for bios' after 0207 (i think), so people with older cpu's are fine, but if you have later cpu's that need a later bios to recognise it and you have PC8500 ram, then your out of luck until ASUS decides to fix it

I suffer from this daily. And I've made so manny posts about it. I have a couple of G.Skill PC8500 kits and a Corsair PC10000 kit, all of which after a crash and the bios resets need to be removed and the PC will only boot of a OCZ PC6400 kit I have. It's gotta be the most anoying thing as it happens 2 or 3 times a day sometimes.

And almost no dividers work for me ( same for my mate), if I'm 425FSB+ I can only boot on the 400 strap which gives me a whole 2 dividers to chose from. Honestly I can't wait till I move away from this board.

Bah bloody crazy cool has to be dismantled for a decent cooler and the only other difference is triple bios versus quad bios.. save yourself a few bucks and some fiddling about

Well this is my 1st Asus board, all the others have always been Gigabyte. Crazy cool dismanatling isn't a problem, I had to do it on a P965-DQ6 I had.

[Ice009]

Any chance someone could reply to my question two posts above please?