OCZ Technology Unveils the "Vanquisher" CPU Cooler

[situman]

Wouldn't that big z shaped hole decrease surface area? Anything wrong with an embossed logo?

[Spawne32]

Wouldn't that big z shaped hole decrease surface area? Anything wrong with an embossed logo?

I would say its for more of a bling factor, as the Vindicator with that big Z in it, performs terribly.

[kuhla]

OCZ has gone definitely mainstream with many of it's products. That is a marketing strategy that has paid off well. Yes we are in this business to make $$$ and most of it comes from mainstream goods.

At least you admit it Many companies seem to think the public won't notice changes like that and just continue to push their own internal image.

[Omastar]

You know, OCZ, just because you go mainstream doesn't mean your products have to be manufactured to clearly inferior standards.

As situman said, why the big 'Z' punched out of the middle of the heatsink? Couldn't you just leave all that material unmolested and find another way to add the 'Z'? I mean, keeping costs down is one thing but shooting yourself in the foot is another.

[Spawne32]

You know, OCZ, just because you go mainstream doesn't mean your products have to be manufactured to clearly inferior standards.

As situman said, why the big 'Z' punched out of the middle of the heatsink? Couldn't you just leave all that material unmolested and find another way to add the 'Z'? I mean, keeping costs down is one thing but shooting yourself in the foot is another.

Like i said, dont make statements like that until you have facts to back it up, we have no idea how well this new heatsink performs, sure the Vindicator is crap, but dont go bashin this new product unless you got facts to backup a lack of performance. What may very well appear to be an "inferior" design, may prove to be a few points better then the standard ACFreezer7 your used to seeing as a mainstream cooler.

[andyOCZ]

ffs, didn't they ever seen Sunbeam or AC coolers? damn same coolers, im dissapointed at OCZ

Read posts #43 to #50. It could be educational.

[andyOCZ]

You know, OCZ, just because you go mainstream doesn't mean your products have to be manufactured to clearly inferior standards.

As situman said, why the big 'Z' punched out of the middle of the heatsink? Couldn't you just leave all that material unmolested and find another way to add the 'Z'? I mean, keeping costs down is one thing but shooting yourself in the foot is another.

How can you say the product is inferior. Have you tested it? One guy says it's not original and slams it, the you say it is different and slam that!

This is becoming quite amusing.

[andyOCZ]

At least you admit it Many companies seem to think the public won't notice changes like that and just continue to push their own internal image.

There is no shame in success!

[Starscream]

Alright guys be nice.......

This is OBVIOUSLY not for your here at XS. This is for the average Joe that wants to cool his wife's or grandma's computer quietly. You don't like, you don't buy. OK?

The Vindicator will be much better and we still have more to come.

Every company sells "lesser" products. I don't see anyone complaining about value RAM. Do you think the top end stuff sells all that well? Less expensive products move allot faster and put money in the bank.

And the PC of the wife or grandma usually isnt overclocked so temps usually arent an issue.
So getting a cheap (10 or 15 euro) heatsink from AC is good enough for those and they usually are damn quiet.

that is the treatment every company gets that simply copys the products from other companys or rebadges them.
It may not be nice but this aint the first OCZ CPU cooler thats just a copy.

Like said it may not be nice and you guys keep on promising that there are more and better things to come but we had expected more from OCZ then promises and copys.

edit:
i agree that no comment can yet be made on its cooling performence but like you said this is a Cooler for the wifes computer so its cooling performence doesnt matter that much seeing its a low buget cooler.
The thing that irritates most people here is like said the fact that it is a copy of a cooler that has been on the market for more then a year and that the cooler that it is a copy of is a damn good one for its price and most likely there wont be a big cooling difrence between the AC freezer and this OCZ Cooler.

[Pinnacle]

You know I was going to post this 2 days ago, but I thought that maybe I shouldnt since this thing looks like AC HSF, didnt want OCZ to get hammered anymore then it has been here on XS.
I guess its too late

[grimREEFER]

yeah...umm...the vanquisher seems to be a mockup of the artic cooling freezer 7 pro/64, thermaltake's variation and sunbeamtech's variation. On the bright side the Vindicator looks pretty good (though eerily a lot like the scythe ninja...)
http://www.xoxide.com/ocz-vindicator-cpu-cooler.html

i tried to get one of those with my dfi board, but they were out of stock everywhere! i got a freezer 7 pro instead, but i sometimes wonder what it would be like to have double the heatpipes and a bigger fan.

[Spawne32]

Look at this picture:



What are you talking about?

i think hes referring to the vindicator

[Spawne32]

haha, ninja edit andy!!

[andyOCZ]

Yeah, I realized that.

Only a test of version without the Z cutout and one with the Z cutout would tell if performance is worse/better.

[Ace-a-Rue]

dont kill the messenger

YES! ...dagger in all the way!

[Omastar]

How can you say the product is inferior. Have you tested it? One guy says it's not original and slams it, the you say it is different and slam that!

This is becoming quite amusing.

Given that the Vindicator was inferior, why should this be any different? I can only base its potential on the past products in this area, which have all been quite without merit.

[bypolar]

Alright guys be nice.......

This is OBVIOUSLY not for your here at XS. This is for the average Joe that wants to cool his wife's or grandma's computer quietly. You don't like, you don't buy. OK?

The Vindicator will be much better and we still have more to come.

Every company sells "lesser" products. I don't see anyone complaining about value RAM. Do you think the top end stuff sells all that well? Less expensive products move allot faster and put money in the bank.

Yes you are right Andy, in reality it is about staying is Business and lesser or globle manufactored products are essential to compete in the market.

WE as Enthusiast are spoiled by OCZ's relentless pursuite in original products and this deviant is just a adjustment we need to soakup.

Thankyou for taking your Company and products personally.it is a long lost dedication we do not see theses days.

Tony.

[andyOCZ]

Given that the Vindicator was inferior, why should this be any different? I can only base its potential on the past products in this area, which have all been quite without merit.

It sounds like someone is having fun here.

[Spawne32]

Given that the Vindicator was inferior, why should this be any different? I can only base its potential on the past products in this area, which have all been quite without merit.

Ill tell you what, tomorrow im gona re-run my tests on the Vindicator, for OCZ's sake, and im gona give you two comparisons against the Scythe Ninja and OCZ Vindicator, which are basically of identical design.

I want to positively ENSURE that my assumptions about the Vindicator are accurate. ( i was sure before, but ill do it again to be safe)

[Omastar]

Ill tell you what, tomorrow im gona re-run my tests on the Vindicator, for OCZ's sake, and im gona give you two comparisons against the Scythe Ninja and OCZ Vindicator, which are basically of identical design.

I want to positively ENSURE that my assumptions about the Vindicator are accurate. ( i was sure before, but ill do it again to be safe)

Okay, then.

And by the way, if some average Joe just wanted to cool his grandmother's computer, would he not just use the stock cooler? Is grandma gonna be overclocking?

[Spawne32]

Okay, then.

And by the way, if some average Joe just wanted to cool his grandmother's computer, would he not just use the stock cooler? Is grandma gonna be overclocking?

Ninja editing

[Omastar]

Ninja editing

Yeah, figured I'd cut that part out.

[Spawne32]

Actually what im doing is discussing the matter with andy on the results of the Vindicator, im not gona get all crazy with the heatsinks and retesting, because quite frankly, ive already done that 4 times in a row, i dont know if you guys have been reading the air cooling forum but i have a very large and comprehensive air cooling roundup in the works for you guys, and since the results should be completed and posted on all the heatsinks i have in stock by next week sometime, im gona just say, go ahead and wait for that, unless andy wishes otherwise.

[oohms]

Oh come on guys cut some slack... at least they dont spend lots of r&d money to come up with stuff like coolermaster's mid range stuff and they are developing that huge carbon base cooler which im looking forward to.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Such as fuss over some inexpensive cooler! tsk, tsk

Have you ever walked into a Frys store? They also sell bare CPU's and I have seen many "noobs" with beer bellies, high on at least a six pack choose one and then get sold some flashy heatsink to go with it. These guys don't care about 5c temp differences, or about how original the design is. They just need a cooler on a budget. We help these guys everyday on our support forums.

Look guys, I don't know how much "originality" much expect in the price range that this will sell for. I find it funny how you keep naming off these different companies that all market designs that are nearly identical; was it the OEM'S design in the first place, hmmm? Ever been to a trade show and walked the back isles? Yes, "re-branding" happens.

What company do you know of that simply markets top of line, "new and original" high end designs, aimed strictly at the overclocker/enthusiast, with high end pricing, that has the sales and growth that OCZ has?

OCZ has gone definitely mainstream with many of it's products. That is a marketing strategy that has paid off well. Yes we are in this business to make $$$ and most of it comes from mainstream goods. BUT, we have not lost sight of you hard core dudes and we are working on new products just or you. Just hang in and please ignore what you aren't interested in. I doubt you would spend hours picking apart the Korean made Chevy's when you are shopping for a Corvette.

We care about all of you at XS or I wouldn't be here or bother trying to explain things. You guys are very important to us at OCZ. You helped get us started in this business and we won't forget that. I notice that few reps post here any more, yet we remain. You are definitely a "tough crowd".

Peace!

let me be the first to apologize for our outrageous behavior...i am sorry you were in the cross hairs of some of our newer forum posters.

i do appreciate OCZ being one of the top leaders, if not "the" leader, in performance hardware....i already loved your PSU's but now, you have joined up with PCP&C which is only going to make your line that much stronger...it was a "GREAT" acquisition!