Swiftech GTX Copper Housings

[AndyM]

I am curious though if having that copper top will aid at all in cooling.
It's the right material for the job.

You would think...but I'm kinda thinking whatever oring sealing between the 2 halves would thermally decouple the top a good amount.

[nikhsub1]

Man some of you guys are unbelievable. We moan and groan for a copper top, Swiftech makes a copper top, now you complain it's too expensive, it's too this, it's too that. I was one of the ones pushing for this top too. You guys make me sorry I did. Now I 100% see why Swiftech was reluctant.

And no, the top won't affect cooling ability one bit.

[OPPAINTER]

Just for my own curiosity, could someone that has a Stealth that's currently not mounted, please take it apart completely and weigh just the top (no fittings/gasket) and post the weight?

The Stealth houseing weighs 8 ounces.

OPP

[Movieman]

Man some of you guys are unbelievable. We moan and groan for a copper top, Swiftech makes a copper top, now you complain it's too expensive, it's too this, it's too that. I was one of the ones pushing for this top too. You guys make me sorry I did. Now I 100% see why Swiftech was reluctant.

And no, the top won't affect cooling ability one bit.

Thanks for the info..

[Riddlinkidstone]

Man some of you guys are unbelievable. We moan and groan for a copper top, Swiftech makes a copper top, now you complain it's too expensive, it's too this, it's too that. I was one of the ones pushing for this top too. You guys make me sorry I did. Now I 100% see why Swiftech was reluctant.

And no, the top won't affect cooling ability one bit.

Welcome to the Internet. You can't please everyone.

Frankly, I like the copper look.

[LinusTech]

I like it a lot. I'm going to be checking out the place VirtualRain does his nickel plating today and if I like them and the prices are reasonable, this might well be the point at which Gabe finally convinces me to replace my FuZion.

[Pete]

$40 is nothing for a spild lump of copper, thats like £15/20 for us in the UK!

If it was all going on in the UK it's be around £30 which is costly!

$40 is fine. Gabe listened for once. So shut up!

[C'DaleRider]

Man some of you guys are unbelievable. We moan and groan for a copper top, Swiftech makes a copper top, now you complain it's too expensive, it's too this, it's too that. I was one of the ones pushing for this top too. You guys make me sorry I did. Now I 100% see why Swiftech was reluctant.

And no, the top won't affect cooling ability one bit.

Exactly. And despite Gabe repeatedly saying it wouldn't be cheap to produce the copper tops separately, the parade of condemnation of the plated aluminum top continued....and got louder.

So now Swiftech has done exactly what the majority wanted, only to find out they really didn't mean it when most all said they'd buy it no matter the price.

But I'm not completely surprised. You only have to see the contrariness of some here when discussing water component testing. BillA's testing of radiators was called, by some, as biased because the test was funded by Thermochill. Swiftech's own numbers are routinely called biased and not to be believed. Other tests are belittled ....one for something so insignificant as the wrong tubing was used...whaever a tubing choice means in real world performance.

So I'm not surprised that a company like Swiftech, bowing to the clamor of the manyand trying to produce what the market wants, produces exactly what was asked for, only to be raked over the coals for very petty reasons.

[Waterlogged]

The Stealth houseing weighs 8 ounces.

OPP

Thank you so much OPPAINTER.

With that info in hand, and some math, A copper top for the Stealth would weigh somewhere around 1lbs 10oz. Throw in the base and your pushing almost 1lbs 14oz.

I'm sorry but that's a bit too heavy for my liking.

Disclaimer: My math may be off so if someone would like to double check it, the density of 110 copper is .321-.323 (I chose .322) lbs per cubic inch. Density of 6063 aluminum (this seemed the best choice for it corrosion resistance and relatively low price) is .097 lbs per cubic inch.

[nikhsub1]

Thank you so much OPPAINTER.

With that info in hand, and some math, A copper top for the Stealth would weigh somewhere around 1lbs 10oz. Throw in the base and your pushing almost 1lbs 14oz.

I'm sorry but that's a bit too heavy for my liking.

Disclaimer: My math may be off so if someone would like to double check it, the density of 110 copper is .321-.323 (I chose .322) lbs per cubic inch. Density of 6063 aluminum (this seemed the best choice for it corrosion resistance and relatively low price) is .097 lbs per cubic inch.

Don't get ahead of yourself... I seriously doubt that Gabe would even give that a thought now... with all the crybabies.

[OT] Gabe I know you think I'm against Swiftech, let me say I am not and never have been. I just want to commend you on producing a fine copper top for the GTX. I will be purchasing one no doubt. [/OT]

[Waterlogged]

nikhsub1, I wasn't. I was more or less posting that for anyone that decided they wanted to continue having a tantrum. I just think almost 2lbs of copper is way too much and would easily make it the most expensive block out there.

I honestly have no vested interest in either as I don't have a GTX or Stealth, I don't even have a 8800.

[ranker]

I don't know who the cry babies are, but I complained a lot about it not having a copper top. Now that it's released I'll be purchasing two as soon as they land on Petra's/Jab-tech's store.

Anyone that's moaning about the price is a hater anyway considering the block w/ copper top itself is only 10$ more expensive than the old version. Us early adopters pay a bit more but that's the price we pay for being early adopters. Get used to it.

Like I said earlier, I'm in for two!

[dietwaterrr]

sigh, i totally did not think this was going to happen. I would have held out and bought one of these instead of a fuzion =(

[SiGfever]

That is a damn sexy top!

[ghent915]

I'd have been all over this had I not just bloody well bought a Fuzion...
Oh well, always next time.
-Ghent

[virtualrain]

Any chance there will be an Arylic or delrin version, naked copper looks ugly and at $40US, that's expensive for us aussies

I reckon a black delrin version would look awesome, but a nickel plated copper top would be look gorgeous, it'd cost a fair bit though

Virtual rain, you're going to have to post up pics ASAP when you get yours done mate, can't wait to see it

No problem... should be done by the end of next week.

[1Day]

Any news as to when the complete copper GTX blocks will be in store. And possibly which stores will have first?

[Walternowi]

Any news as to when the complete copper GTX blocks will be in store. And possibly which stores will have first?

I am interested too. I will likely get one when it is available.

[7499richard]

that block looks sooooo friggin sweet
I thought it looked amazing before with the aluminum but the copper looks really sharp

I would buy one but don't have the money right now, and I don't think I would see much improvement over my bowed GT, maybe couple degrees, and my situation right now its not worth it

But still the dopest looking block I have ever seen, truly amazing

[YugenM]

No problem... should be done by the end of next week.

I'm sorry, I can't wait that long. I'm going to comb all of N. Van. (at least I think that's where you live, too lazy to check through PM's right now) to find your home and sneak a peak at your W.I.P. when you're sleeping, eating dinner, watching T.V. or fighting off a marauding grizzly bear.

[Jimmer411]

Makes me happy I didnt jump onto the GTX band wagon right away, it just saved me $40!

Ill have my copper top GTX coming in the mail as soon as my case mod is done.

[Locke]

yeah i just got my gtx last week, i got sick of waiting and didnt hear any info on the copper top. So i guess i'll have to pay $30 bucks more for it now cause i couldnt wait another month.

[jws2346]

Man, that is one "dynamite" lookin' block.

Thanks OPPAINTER, thank you for keeping an ear to the ground. If it costs a little more or weighs a little more so be it . If I have to eat more cheap TV dinners or scrounge up my pennys I'll certainly purchase one when they're availiable from Petras (one of the best online stores out there as far as I'm concerned)
I was going with a FuZion, but not now. I know they're also great blocks and the temp difference isn't that much either way, but I like the looks of the GTX and besides after reading the informative posts on this forum I was a little skeptible about aluminum. (don't have to be any longer)

[Levish]

Nah, I didn't take it personal at all..
I am curious though if having that copper top will aid at all in cooling.
It's the right material for the job.
Now I am a WC n00b so if that comment is laughable I'll laugh along with you.

Probably not, the only direct contact with anything it'd have is the water which typically a few deg C over ambient unlike the processor itself and the top is separated from the baseplate by the O Ring.

If there was any significant benefit from the copper top Swiftech probably have cast it with the same pattern pins as their BGA ramsinks.

Chances are this is more to answer everyone's plea for a different material top that wouldn't cause corrosion in a mostly copper / brass loop.

[Anemone]

Well kudos to Gabe - have to say it makes a beautiful looking block. If it performs even equal to the Fuzion, doesn't the Fuzion have a higher flow resistance? I know they are both low on the resistance, but I thought the GTX was just a bit better. And with all the triple blocks on triple rads, have to keep that flow in mind