Vapochill LS mod for QX processors

[FireLight]

Hi,i read few themes and i think is possible to run QX on 4ghz under modet vapo:

http://forum.asetek.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=12

someone who did something like that can post some info and help me?



thanks

[hecktic]

hmmm im listening...

[DarthBeavis]

http://www.teamnexgen.org/forum/hard...ll-ls-mod.html

Charging my unit with this stuff:



The evap head line broke so we are waiting on another one.

[[XC] gomeler]

I've got a VapoLS, Mach II GT, and creating a "vapoLi" out on my bench so I can post you some pictures/results and show you what is capable. I do exactly as he mentions, NF11FX, larger condenser, small SLHX, lots of insulation Expecting evap temps to sit around -2x @ ~300w and die temps tend to have a 20-30 degree delta so right about 0C.

[vampire338]

read this post by Fugger. it'll solve your question.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=qx6850

[FireLight]

read this post by Fugger. it'll solve your question.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=qx6850

Very nice chip,and temps a real good...this is i neednf11l and 507/404a will fine i think.

[HoriWanderFuLL]

there still only a 1/3 Hp compressor ...if you have a broken suction line why dont you go grab a bigger compresor as well..save the dissapointment.

i think somone needs to make a Vapo ls and Quadcore sticky explaining the Dissapointments once your passing 3.6Ghz . or 1.5vcore..because i see everryday more and more post about Quads and Vapochills.

now imnot a Phase change builder so i cant say if that gas is going to helpor not..but your still limited to compressor and condensor size wich heats up.

But i have owned everry version of Vapochill made so im clued up on all there unit capabilities.

I posted a thread on the vapochillforum 6 months asking if they was going to use bigger units now the Quad cores are out..stilno reply

Cheers Hori

[FireLight]

I so posted in vapochill forum but no answare...



p.s my new compressor come today

[gosmeyer]

That compressor will take the load if the other components are up to the task!

[wdrzal]

A compressor simply squeezes the heat out of the refrigerant so it can start the cycle again. It changes a low pressure superheated vapor into a high pressure superheated gas.What the pump can accomplish is not only based on horsepower and displacement but the refrigerant being used,@ what evaporating temperature,piping,metering device and the evaporator and condenser plus atmospheric conditions.

[Rock]

A compressor squeezes the heat out of the refrigerant?????

I thought the condensor was used to remove the heat from the pressurized superheated gas. The compressor itself adds heat from compression/friction/mechanical ineffeciencies, it does not itself remove any heat.

Or am I missing something?

[Postal Dude]

A compressor squeezes the heat out of the refrigerant?????

I thought the condensor was used to remove the heat from the pressurized superheated gas. The compressor itself adds heat from compression/friction/mechanical ineffeciencies, it does not itself remove any heat.

Or am I missing something?

Thats right. The compressor just squeezes the gas into a smaller volume. Which will add heat in itself, aswell as the friction and stuff. The consenser is there to remove that heat to allow the compressed gas to turn in to a liquid

[AliG]

http://www.teamnexgen.org/forum/hard...ll-ls-mod.html

Charging my unit with this stuff:



The evap head line broke so we are waiting on another one.

Just wondering, did you purge your evap when you brazed it? The only picture of brazing it I saw showed you just brazing it together, which means you probably have a bit of oxidation in there, which is something you'll probably want to take care of (I hear just washing it with vinegar forever does the trick)

[FireLight]

I think to use r402,but offer to me only 11 litre tank...keep searching

[Freddie123]

r402a has high discharge pressures and temps, you'll need a larger condenser then you would with a gas like R507a or R404a. The temps are barely better over R507a and its normally more expensive.

[Derek]

I build custom phase change units and mod LS units regularly. To handle Quad CPU's most units need simply a gas retune for the higher load. For the best temps on single stage phase an improved condensor, a HX on the suction, a desuperheater to add capacity and accumalators all help. Most mods I do on LS units also envolve changing the compressor to NL11F which is more silent and also adds the capacity needed for Quad Core. NL11F is standard on my custom units with 11cc comparred to 8.5cc of standard LS its a real step forward.

My Quad runs at 1.6v 24/7 on a modded unit at this its quad prime stable at 4.1ghz with the unit able to hold the load easy for 8 hour prime tests.

Any questions on Quad phasing please ask.

VapoLS - Compressor - Condenser = Evaporator + Case

Add an accumulator, a desuperheater and a new tune that's a pretty expensive evaporator and case compared to a fresh (custom) build isn't it?

[[XC] gomeler]

That's what I do to VapoLS' also. Remember the VapoLS case comes assembled, comes with a controller and software, probes, and essentially just needs a compressor/condenser swap. While you are at it though you might as well do an evap swap and replace the suction line if you are already gutting the system. Increases the cost of the system and essentially makes it a "new" system but it removes any worry from the build. Case + controller easily costs $250+ so doing a mod vs custom build can potentially save you money, especially if the builder gives you a "core charge" cut on the parts he removes.

[Derek]

Gotcha. I forgot about the controller.

[Coyote]

there still only a 1/3 Hp compressor ...if you have a broken suction line why dont you go grab a bigger compresor as well..save the dissapointment.

i think somone needs to make a Vapo ls and Quadcore sticky explaining the Dissapointments once your passing 3.6Ghz . or 1.5vcore..because i see everryday more and more post about Quads and Vapochills.

now imnot a Phase change builder so i cant say if that gas is going to helpor not..but your still limited to compressor and condensor size wich heats up.

But i have owned everry version of Vapochill made so im clued up on all there unit capabilities.

I posted a thread on the vapochillforum 6 months asking if they was going to use bigger units now the Quad cores are out..stilno reply

Cheers Hori

what dissapointment, 1/3hp is enough? you only need to set it up correctly, using a good evap, and a nice condensor.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=147977&page=2

that Q6600 ES @ 4.1ghz under ssilencer's unit, is mine

but i agree with you, why use a vapochill if you need to change 70% of the system to make it run correctly. if you need new evap, and new condensor, avoid getting the vapochill at all. get a nice compressor, a nice controller (plenty of options available), a nice case (plenty of options available too), and make your own unit.

[FireLight]

But if you have olready a vapo...i think to change condensor to,only evap is a problem,i hope the stock is work fine


Coyote nice Qx nice temps..:beer:


p.s. someone try this http://www.under-the-ice.com/product...roducts_id=114

[HoriWanderFuLL]

what dissapointment, 1/3hp is enough? you only need to set it up correctly, using a good evap, and a nice condensor.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=147977&page=2

that Q6600 ES @ 4.1ghz under ssilencer's unit, is mine

but i agree with you, why use a vapochill if you need to change 70% of the system to make it run correctly. if you need new evap, and new condensor, avoid getting the vapochill at all. get a nice compressor, a nice controller (plenty of options available), a nice case (plenty of options available too), and make your own unit.

Good overclock mate ..Im just really saying we are limited to amount of vcore we can put through these size compressors..at the end of the day when it heats up its going to go from -30c to -5c in around 1 minute after it cant keep cooling the gas.

i managed a 4Ghz wprime last night myself but it was dodgy and only using a Xe2 with 1.54vcore Real

Shot at 2007-08-04
This is a 2Ghz overclock....

[hecktic]

wow that is really nice.

[[XC] gomeler]

But if you have olready a vapo...i think to change condensor to,only evap is a problem,i hope the stock is work fine


Coyote nice Qx nice temps..:beer:


p.s. someone try this http://www.under-the-ice.com/product...roducts_id=114

Those are the condensers I use in my Vapo/Mach re-fits. Works like a charm albeit space is very limited

[HoriWanderFuLL]

wow that is really nice.

Dont care to much about the 2nd screeny mate it was a suicide shot...
cant be good for the cpu ...and it was far from benchable...

But im verry happy with the first one as i tried this 2 weeks ago with my Ls and failed!!!!

the Big Industrial Fan made the differance.....wich i did not use on the Ls..and i should of.

so i suppose with a bit of gas tweaking it would be possible to hold a Quad with a Vapo ?? i still think its a struggle though...

Cheers Hori

[hecktic]

thanks for the update, still good though whether stable or not its impressive to get those kind of results