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    [Vapor] IFX-14 vs. Ultra-120 eXtreme (and others!)

    Got my IFX-14 in earlier today and have been playing pretty much all day, and would like to share some pics and results

    I only have pics now, wanna get at least a full set of data before I throw it up in a graph

    So here's some pics:

    The boxes


    First opening:


    The HSFs :


    Take them out, take them out of the plastic bags, and this is what you get (not what I wanted to see....):


    Well, it was easy to straighten out:

    (wasn't perfect, but a 38mm fan fits well and fairly snuggly inside, which is satisfactory)

    Fin comparison, IFX vs. Ultra-120 eX vs. backside cooler:


    The backside cooler (notice the clear plastic strip for electrical insulation ):


    What's included with the Ultra-120 eX:


    What's included with the IFX-14:


    Next post will have results

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    hi vapor,

    thanks for your pics, waiting after your result.

    If you can put your hand on a sonic tower give it a shot, my test showed me a better temp by 1°C to 2°c with the sonic ( 3 x120 @ 650 rpm vs 2 x 120 @ 650 rpm) against the U120e but it was on A64 only .
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    pics finally

    sucks the sink arrived so bent

    PS what's up with the nasty scratch on one of the metal thing in the last pic??
    Last edited by [cTx] Nooc; 07-25-2007 at 07:40 PM.

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    nice! can't wait...

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    How about a Tuniq Tower in the comparo as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nooc View Post
    ]PS what's up with the nasty scratch on one of the metal thing in the last pic??
    Not a scratch...seems to be some sort of adhesive (residue).

    The HSFs being tested are the IFX-14 (with and w/o backside cooler), Ultra-120 eX, Scythe Infinity, TTBT, and QX6700 stock cooler.

    CPUs being tested are:
    1) QX6700 @ 3.2GHz, 1.39V loaded (high load....clocks are low because with 800RPM fans, none of these coolers can clock too high)
    2) E6700ES @ 3.4GHz, 1.5V loaded (medium load)
    3) E6700ES @ 2.66GHz, 1.27V loaded (low load)

    Fans....well, lots and lots of fan configs will be tested

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    THATS SICK! i think i'll wait for the IFX-14 Xtreme to come out befor i upgrade, i see that there is room for another 2 heatpipes
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    would you happen to have a pic showing the bottom of the main heatsink base(the underside that makes contact with the cpu)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pochoboy View Post
    would you happen to have a pic showing the bottom of the main heatsink base(the underside that makes contact with the cpu)?
    I'm sorry, I do not. It was better quality than the Ultra-120's base, very shiny and no striations.

    Initial results posted.

    Note that 'with back' results are on a remount where I added some mastic tape to the mounting bracket (a la penny-mod for the Ultra-120 eX). I also have a 100mm fan on the backside sink, removing it raises temps by 1C (if that).

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    Wow, interesting. Guess I'll wait for them to come out with an IFX Extreme

    Thanks for the great comparison

    *edit* Do you have a Ultra 120 (non-Extreme) that you could test against it? It would be interesting to see if it's the extra two heatpipes that are making the difference.

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    Nope, just the eXtreme. I would offer to cut the heatpipes, but that'd kinda ruin a few things, and I like it anyway

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    Thanks a lot for the review Vapor, always appreciate your work.
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    Nice job Vapor,

    From the point of the Panaflo on, those temps look real good for both coolers.

    I do have a question(s) on what your using to load the cpu's...Prime? Orthos? and how long running at load to achieve those temps?

    If you had plans to post that info, then disregard this

    Thanks

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    Dual ORTHOS is used (via manual affinity setting and two separate .exe's) for loading. At 3.2GHz with slow RAM on the quad, I've found that between the 4:40 to 5:10 time marks is a very, very hot, very temp-stable period. At 5:10 (or so), Test 2 on all four cores concludes and temps wobble (at a much lower temp) for the next 15min. At the 5min mark I read what Coretemp .94 says and average all four cores. No sense waiting for 20+min every single config to get a slightly hotter temp when this one is so hot and so consistent.

    The "IFX-14, no back w/ the S-Flex D" had two cores at 96C at that point. I don't think the Infinity or the TTBT will be able to remain stable through that test, lol.

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    Thanks for the review Vapor.

    Looks like Ultra 120 Extreme is better and cheaper than IFX-14.
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    Wow 96c

    I'm really impressed from what both are yielding for results. I'm coming a Zalman CNPS 9700 where Prime*cpu stress no ram* goes to 71c and idle averages 39-42c.

    So for me, those temps look incredible, at least from my standpoint. The backplate actually appears to be making a fair difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinch View Post
    Wow 96c

    I'm really impressed from what both are yielding for results. I'm coming a Zalman CNPS 9700 where Prime*cpu stress no ram* goes to 71c and idle averages 39-42c.

    So for me, those temps look incredible, at least from my standpoint.
    These are deltas over ambient....so add ~23C to each one for averaged core temps at the 5min mark.

    Doing the Infinity tests right now (so much easier to mount and mount fans....lol). Only done S-Flex D and E so far, but it's holding its own against the IFX-14 (D really beat the IFX-14, E was a minute loss....higher CFM should pull the IFX-14 ahead even further)

    I really want to see others' results with their IFX-14. I'm hoping/fearing that mine is a dud.

    (btw, all HSFs and tests are done with stock base and stock mounting unless otherwise stated)

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    well, its good to see that the small motherboard sink works! roughly 5c improvment! great! Maybe if paired with the ultra 120 extreme, even better results would come around.

    still, a disappointment....

    no offense...but what the hell!!!! Either you did something wrong, or thermalright is smokin something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by enz660 View Post
    well, its good to see that the small motherboard sink works! roughly 5c improvment! great! Maybe if paired with the ultra 120 extreme, even better results would come around.

    still, a disappointment....

    no offense...but what the hell!!!! Either you did something wrong, or thermalright is smokin something...
    Post #10: "Note that 'with back' results are on a remount where I added some mastic tape to the mounting bracket (a la penny-mod for the Ultra-120 eX). I also have a 100mm fan on the backside sink, removing it raises temps by 1C (if that)."

    i.e., 'with back' results have a modded mount.

    I'm also disappointed

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    do you have some 140mm fans to test with IFX-14?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong,*want to make sure I'm understanding correctly* but I'm looking at the same temps with the IFX-14 (with the backplate on)

    If that's the case, I may not break the seal on mine when it arrives tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdkevin View Post
    do you have some 140mm fans to test with IFX-14?
    Yes....results won't be pretty though, two have zero-HSF/radiator ability and the other spins at all of 1050RPM

    I'm thinking of ways to give a little pep to this IFX-14, and I'm drawing blanks If two San Aces can't get good temps out of it, then damn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flinch View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong,*want to make sure I'm understanding correctly* but I'm looking at the same temps with the IFX-14 (with the backplate on)

    If that's the case, I may not break the seal on mine when it arrives tomorrow.
    I'm not sure if I follow?

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    I think its the mounting.... its connected by only two screws...while the lighter ultra 120 x is mounted via four screws. Makes sense....NOT

    what is it with these monster sinks & crappy mounting, must be a trend or something..
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    Quote Originally Posted by enz660 View Post
    I think its the mounting.... its connected by only two screws...while the lighter ultra 120 x is mounted via four screws. Makes sense....NOT

    what is it with these monster sinks & crappy mounting, must be a trend or something..
    I'm testing horizontally....fwiw.

    I do think the mounting system is a little weird, and not super-strong, but definitely 'good enough' to hold it and have good contact. A simple layered-elec tape or mastic tape mod can always help though.

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