Are new G0 chips really too good OCers? - No!

[Spanki]

...and I'm very not sure on this one, but i believe that mainstream Nahalem stuff that's still on a FSB could go without a socket change, but I only work in manufacturing so I don't hear about this stuff.

I'd have to go look around for references, but I'm fairly sure that I read that they are planning a socket change. But you mention them still having a FSB, so maybe I'm mis-remembering.

[turtle]

I'd have to go look around for references, but I'm fairly sure that I read that they are planning a socket change. But you mention them still having a FSB, so maybe I'm mis-remembering.

You are both correct. One will have IMC, one will not. They will use different sockets, neither will be 775.

Socket B = LGA1366 = Nehalem w/ IMC. Assumingly will use CSI..er...Intel QuickPath Interconnect.
Socket H = LGA715 = Nehalem w/o IMC = replacement for Socket T (775) = Probably uses FSB.

[[XC] serlv]

the thing is in europe the retailers are gouging the buyers not only in cpus but almost everything
all retailers paying the same but some makin more $$$

European computer parts buyers should form a co-op, and spread the savings out. Screw the resellers.

[Grinch]

should have my 6850 wednesday...

[Dahofrin]

I've got a e6550 that's running 100% stable at 3640 at 1.4 volts. I'm happy with it. I have full confidence in the G0 chips.

I Have that exact same chip ( E6550) running on a p5n32-E SLi with 2gb cp-8000 gskil ddr2 .. can you tell me your exact settings please ... cpu core voltage , pci-e voltage etc

[MKM]

What would be the best OC CPU to get for my new system with an Asus Blitz Formula P35 mainboard, an E6600 or E6850? They cost pretty much the same here in Sweden and as someone said we got the "B" ones in Europe maybe I should go for an E6850 and in case I get an "A" I could just send it back and order an E6600?

[RPGWiZaRD]

For same price just get the E6850. Even "A" has reached quite good results, it's just E6750 and E6550 ones with "A" batch that seems to be poor OCers.

[kimandsally]

European computer parts buyers should form a co-op, and spread the savings out. Screw the resellers.

Agree there mate

Ooverclockers have been charging 25% higher than the retail price for the 6850 CPU's and still get away with it, you should look at their forums, if you say what I've just said and your banned, mention that a competitor sells cheaper and guess what banned, they're Nazzies I'm sure, but instead of us all getting together like you suggest the majority stick up for them so they keep screwing us, I'm just one of thousands but I make my stand and buy elsewhere.

[Shakir_Akbari]

it's too bad they don't sell 2mb versions of the conroe chips anymore. if they had a g0 that'd goto 4ghz and only had 2mb, but sold for say $160, i'd totally get it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5031&Tpk=E4500


a $155 from newegg

11x 200mhz = 2.2ghz

rated up to 73.3*c

you are guaranteed to get the m0 stepping (allendale equivalent of the g0) because a b3 stepping version doesn't exist. personally i'm between this chip or the x3210 (+$100) for my build

edit: b3 stepping should read b2

also intel spec sheet:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/Lis...Spec=&OrdCode=

[ziddey]

problem is m0's don't overclock all too well

[sick_g4m3r]

problem is m0's don't overclock all too well

proof?

[ziddey]

http://www.coolaler.com/modules/news...p?storyid=1016
general consensus is that m0's respond to voltage, but to get to where we want to see our chips, requires too much.

[lazy]

so is the B series batch suppose to be a better batch compared to the A?

just havent been seeing that many users with the B cept maybe like one other

[JargonGR]

Agree there mate

Ooverclockers have been charging 25% higher than the retail price for the 6850 CPU's and still get away with it, you should look at their forums, if you say what I've just said and your banned, mention that a competitor sells cheaper and guess what banned, they're Nazzies I'm sure, but instead of us all getting together like you suggest the majority stick up for them so they keep screwing us, I'm just one of thousands but I make my stand and buy elsewhere.

They lost my bussines long ago when they also refused to even get me a quote for anything exceeding their weight limit for shipping to Greece which is ofc too low. You can't even order a motherboard or an 8800GTX.

The second reason was that they are so freaking expensive and they have bad manners.

[adamsleath]

mm

i have something to say about my 6850.:
the temperature of this G0 rise DRAMATICALLY under load - ie dual orthos for example.

idle is 32C ~ Orthos @ 1.39v is 75C - which is more than double the idle temp.

ambient 20C; temperature measurements checked with ctemp95/94, TAT, Asus probe, speedfan 4.32. ~ all show the SAME reading.

In contrast: my old e6700 B1 40C idle 65C @ 1.46v @ 25C

So; unless my readings are wrong, it is a myth that the G0 chips run cool.

I have experienced orthos failure multiple times due to the tjunction temp of 85C being exceeded.

ONE mystery tho' is the fact that i can detect virtually no heat getting to the TUNIQ base. - almost as tho the G0 is not transferring much of its supposed core heat to the cpu sink...

i have the tuniq very tightly fastened and have remounted it to be sure....so; it isnt a bad mounting.

There is no doubt these chips clock well...but heat is still very much the same problem as with the previous steppings as for oc. imo
i'm not the only one who has noticed that initially the G0 gives very low temp readings ...but then changes.
Raising vcore seems to have a more DRAMATIC effect on coretemps than with my old B1 @ idle and especially under LOAD.

admittedly i can get higher clocks with this chip, but its luck of the draw as always.

[SoulsCollective]

ONE mystery tho' is the fact that i can detect virtually no heat getting to the TUNIQ base. - almost as tho the G0 is not transferring much of its supposed core heat to the cpu sink...

i have the tuniq very tightly fastened and have remounted it to be sure....so; it isnt a bad mounting.

Sounds like that could be the cause of your problems - just because it's screwed down tight doesn't mean that you must have a good mount. With temps like that, I'd take it off and check. Your CPU IHS might also be concave, did you check that before installing?

[Sniper.nkc]

To check for concave, take a credit card or similar and put the edge on top of CPU. Then get a thin blade and see if it goes under. If it does, then it is concave. If you don't have a blade, make your room dark and you a small flashlight to see if light goes through the other side.

Also, if you are touching the top of heatsink, it will probably be cooler than the base.