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  1. 07-13-2007, 02:36 AM #1
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    ATI-AMD,a new graphic card line-up in Q1 2008

    AMD to have a new graphic card line-up in Q1 2008(@TC Magazine)

    Looking to redeem itself before the fans and the whole industry AMD's Canadian graphics team will be launching a new video card line-up in Q1 2008. The cards are rumored to be powered, top-to-bottom by 55nm-built chips, all manufactured by TMSC with the R680 being the high-end piece and the RV635 the low-end part.
    All new chips (with the rumored exception of the RV670) will be available as working samples by the end of this year with mass market flooding set to start in Q1 2008.
    By that time Nvidia is set to have at least two high-end cards powered by the second-generation DirectX 10-enabled parts. Also as we reported earlier, the Green Goblin of Santa Clara will be the first to play around with 55nm parts so it may be releasing chips developed under this process before AMD.
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  2. 07-13-2007, 03:49 AM #2
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    Is the RV670 the HD 2650 series? I am really looking forward since 2600 and 2400 doesnt have a satisfatory performance
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    1Q08?
    Awfully long time for a chip like R600 to hang around...

    btw, What exactly are those nVIDIA's 55nm chips?
    Replacement for G80?
    You were not supposed to see this.
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  4. 07-13-2007, 04:14 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    1Q08?
    Awfully long time for a chip like R600 to hang around...

    btw, What exactly are those nVIDIA's 55nm chips?
    Replacement for G80?
    Their next-gen chip, the 1tflop beast afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morais View Post
    Is the RV670 the HD 2650 series? I am really looking forward since 2600 and 2400 doesnt have a satisfatory performance
    Afaik RV670 will be HD2950 Pro.
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    i'm wondering, will those ati gfx-cards and nvidia's g90 be dx10.1 compliant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
    Their next-gen chip, the 1tflop beast afaik.
    Pick 2x HD 2900 XT or 2x 8800 GTX and there you have you 1tflop beast.
    Now it don&#180;t look so impressive

    Measuring the power of a grafic card by tflops is very dangerous......
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    2x 8800 GTX not impressive?!?
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    So no XTX R600?
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    Measuring the power of a grafic card by tflops is very dangerous...
    Agreed, from time to time some FLOPS appear to be less than the other FLOPS.
    You were not supposed to see this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    Afaik RV670 will be HD2950 Pro.
    I hope there will be hd's 2650XT with 256-bit bus
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    I think RV635 will be HD2650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    Pick 2x HD 2900 XT or 2x 8800 GTX and there you have you 1tflop beast.
    Now it don&#180;t look so impressive

    Measuring the power of a grafic card by tflops is very dangerous......
    You'd actually need 3x 8800GTX to get 1TFLOP usable, 2x for theoretical. It is actually quite impressive for 1 GPU to have more GPU FLOPS than 2 previous gen cards. It will also most likely use less power than 1x R600 so it is impressive no matter which way YOU spin it.

    Dangerous to compare it to CPU's maybe but to other GPU's, no. Especially considering all the hubbub over the R600 CF doing 1TFLOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOE View Post
    I dunno why you keep on crying bout the 128 bit MC

    today we have very fast modules, that allows a 128bit MC to outperform a 256 bit MC we had 2 years ago

    midrange cards are not for hardcore gamers, so there is no point of making the chip more complex, and the PCB as well

    there are rumors about a 256bit MC GPU, but I don;t think it will be a midrange product, it will find it's place between the midrange and highend, like the 1950Pro or 7900GS did
    Yeah, but how do you explain me the newer generation 2600xt losing to a
    X1650XT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morais View Post
    Yeah, but how do you explain me the newer generation 2600xt losing to a
    X1650XT?
    Drivers are FUD
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathReborn View Post
    It will also most likely use less power than 1x R600 so it is impressive no matter which way YOU spin it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathReborn View Post
    You'd actually need 3x 8800GTX to get 1TFLOP usable, 2x for theoretical. It is actually quite impressive for 1 GPU to have more GPU FLOPS than 2 previous gen cards. It will also most likely use less power than 1x R600 so it is impressive no matter which way YOU spin it.

    Dangerous to compare it to CPU's maybe but to other GPU's, no. Especially considering all the hubbub over the R600 CF doing 1TFLOP.
    AMD showed in January a computer runing Barcelona + 2x HD 2900 XT making 1 Tflop.

    It&#180;s impressive? Put 2x R600 in 65 or 55nm in 1 single card (like 7950 GX2) and there you go. You have your 1 Tflop beast.

    It will be hot, big, and not good performer in games, but the 1 Tflop beast is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    Agreed, from time to time some FLOPS appear to be less than the other FLOPS.
    well some flops are more useful for processing, some flops are more useful for graphics, and some flops are wonderful for research.
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    Geforce 8 move so much flops and are so good at folding...
    Ah sorry they can't.
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    All this talk of flops makes me think the GPU's could use a little viagra... get over their driver (the old ball and chain /pun) issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    All this talk of flops makes me think the GPU's could use a little viagra... get over their driver (the old ball and chain /pun) issues.
    What is next a couple cases of enzyte for people who buy some of these mosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    What is next a couple cases of enzyte for people who buy some of these mosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbelJemka View Post
    How you know that? Voyance? Voodoo? Jed powers?
    Common Sense, Logic and the fact that it's going to be 65nm & not a leaky 80nm chip.
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    Sorry I'm dumb.
    They double G80 power and in the meantime they cut power compsumtion by more than two. Seriously i hope but in the meantime i seriously dont't count for it. Nvidia and ATI never really show they care about po<er compsumption. Gravure decreasing mean more boards produce for less money for them and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOE View Post
    midrange cards are not for hardcore gamers
    So you have to have a lot of disposable income to be a "hardcore gamer"? You know there are more of us poor gamers out there than your hardcore gamers. It seems absolutely dumb to me to buy the $800 video card when likely the $300 next gen is going to out perform it. I bet you that these midrange cards out sell the highend stuff 10:1. The point of having the fastest card on the market funnels down to the midrange buyers. Average Joe gamer might know that nVidia has the fastest card so he buys a midrange nVidia card with the same assumptions.
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