Swiftech Back Plates now Available!

[nealh]

I got it today and already installed it.

What a pain to install in comparison to the original mount.

really I thought it would be easier to install..why was it worse??

Hmm..I just noted you have an Apogee GT..wonder if the GTX will be an easier install

[7499richard]

really I thought it would be easier to install..why was it worse??

Hmm..I just noted you have an Apogee GT..wonder if the GTX will be an easier install

lol...ummm no

its the same block, except the gtx has a larger space between the barb holes.

it will be the exact same to mount

[NaeKuh]

Guys i got my mount from michelle.

It came pretty fast, and i cant thank the guys at swiftech for the fast mail out.


The mount comes with screws and its a hard mount. Think of the MCW30 hard mount. It has no springs, and you basically screw the block onto the backplate. The backplate has its own nuts which will take the 4 screws it comes with. I guess thats why its called a hard mount. I wont have time to install it for a while, because i am not taking my loop apart to drop in a backplate that will give me almost 0 performance.

You guys will either have to wait for someone else to post any big results, but as for now, my TT backplate will stay on my main rig until i do a big maintance on her.

And yeah it does seem like a pain in the Butt to screw on. I might tweek it a little, and get longer screws and try to revese screw it and hold the plate with a nut on the board. Then drop the Block on top and use a nut the old fashion way. Either way, the backplate looks 100% identical to the scythe backplate, so either solution seems the same.

[nealh]

Guys i got my mount from michelle.

It came pretty fast, and i cant thank the guys at swiftech for the fast mail out.


The mount comes with screws and its a hard mount. Think of the MCW30 hard mount. It has no springs, and you basically screw the block onto the backplate. The backplate has its own nuts which will take the 4 screws it comes with. I guess thats why its called a hard mount. I wont have time to install it for a while, because i am not taking my loop apart to drop in a backplate that will give me almost 0 performance.

You guys will either have to wait for someone else to post any big results, but as for now, my TT backplate will stay on my main rig until i do a big maintance on her.

And yeah it does seem like a pain in the Butt to screw on. I might tweek it a little, and get longer screws and try to revese screw it and hold the plate with a nut on the board. Then drop the Block on top and use a nut the old fashion way. Either way, the backplate looks 100% identical to the scythe backplate, so either solution seems the same.

but why would this harder to install....

I cant believe how fast Michelle got these shipped..asked one day and the next it was shipped...excellent service

[NaeKuh]

but why would this harder to install....

I cant believe how fast Michelle got these shipped..asked one day and the next it was shipped...excellent service

because neal, it looks like you would nee to apply some pressure on the screws for it to go in. Also, if you assume the board is going to be mounted inside the case, it would be a PITA to screw on sideways. I didnt like how the original apogee mounting system was. Think of it that way.


In all the easiest way to mount a waterblock i felt, was the DD style. Which is the most common style now. A bolt from behind the board secured by a nut on the board. The long screws then stick up and you slide the block over.

This mount requires you to match all the holes first b4 u put the block on top, then slide scerws on top of the block to the backplate. And i think the screws will be JUST enough to reach and be tightened slightly.


Neal, just goto your jab-tech history, and highlight the order invoice on there site. And then paste it on a email document, or take a screen shot of the invoice and email it to michelle. Mention your on XS, and it might help.

But yeah, they were incredibly fast. Definitely hats off to gabe and swiftech for this one.

[Mekrel]

Does this count for people in the UK?

[jagt]

Will this fit on the Fuzion?

[Ad1tya]

^^ Any backplate will work with any Waterblock.

Even ThermalRights Backplates work with the Fuzion.

[jagt]

^^ Any backplate will work with any Waterblock.

Even ThermalRights Backplates work with the Fuzion.

Yeah I figured. But I got confused with all the hard mount talk. Thought there was something special about it.

[nealh]

because neal, it looks like you would nee to apply some pressure on the screws for it to go in. Also, if you assume the board is going to be mounted inside the case, it would be a PITA to screw on sideways. I didnt like how the original apogee mounting system was. Think of it that way.



This mount requires you to match all the holes first b4 u put the block on top, then slide scerws on top of the block to the backplate. And i think the screws will be JUST enough to reach and be tightened slightly.


Neal, just goto your jab-tech history, and highlight the order invoice on there site. And then paste it on a email document, or take a screen shot of the invoice and email it to michelle. Mention your on XS, and it might help.

But yeah, they were incredibly fast. Definitely hats off to gabe and swiftech for this one.

I copied and pasted from Jab-tech my invoice last week and like i said I got it already
BTW ow did you know I got it from Jab-Tech

I understand now why this will be a PITA to install...did not give it much thought as I cant do the install for several weeks...getting a vacation

What size screws did you use with the Tt BT backplate to install the apogee gtx?

TIA
Neal

[MotF Bane]

^^ Any backplate will work with any Waterblock.

Even ThermalRights Backplates work with the Fuzion.

http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright...t-pr-3605.html

Including that one?

[NaeKuh]

I copied and pasted from Jab-tech my invoice last week and like i said I got it already
BTW ow did you know I got it from Jab-Tech

I understand now why this will be a PITA to install...did not give it much thought as I cant do the install for several weeks...getting a vacation

What size screws did you use with the Tt BT backplate to install the apogee gtx?

TIA
Neal

because you told me. And i have a fairly good memory about things like this.

Basically i used screws 1 inch longer, then the factory shipped ones. But if you have the backplate, i hear a hardmount is much prefered over springs because you get a more even and firm clamp down. This really helps if your bowing the block.

My Q6600 isnt even lapped yet.

Reason is because it doesnt break 60C on full load even at mid day with no AC, so i decided to be lazy and forgo it until i do another maintence job on it.

[ranker]

Anyone got any results in yet with the use of the backplate in either of two conditions?

1) not having used any backplate

2) having used a 3rd party backplate

I'd like to know if breaking down my U2 once again will be worth it.

[nealh]

[QUOTE=NaeKuh;2276360]because you told me. And i have a fairly good memory about things like this. [/q]
my memory sucks, I guess

Basically i used screws 1 inch longer, then the factory shipped ones. But if you have the backplate, i hear a hardmount is much prefered over springs because you get a more even and firm clamp down. This really helps if your bowing the block.

I would prefer a hardmount but I don see any easuy way to do this once the mobo is mounted
Not like I can mount the water block and then place tubes on it

I like to be able to remove te entire loop in its entireity and will cut my NIB TJ07(sitting in our living room..wife not to happy about that) to allow this

[gabe]

because neal, it looks like you would nee to apply some pressure on the screws for it to go in.

no no noooo

you don't have to push the screws.

This thing could be installed by a 5 year old.

The back plate has a VERY strong adhesive in the back. Once in place, it will never fall.

Installing uninstaling is a breaze with this. They use my quad for testing in the lab, and I have removed it from my system at least a dozen times. huge difference in convenience with the screw/springs. its just a bolt on. Again, i really don't understand why someone said its a PITA to install.

oh, and I did gain on my quad temps compared to a beefed up spring mount (2 extra wahsers).

3.6 Ghz (1.45v bios) - test burnk6 x 4
standard spring mount with (2) extra washers

ambient 73F

c0: 74C
c1: 73C
c2: 67C
c3: 69C
avg: 70.75C - AS5 1 week cure

3.6 (1.45v bios) - burnk6 x 4
backplate mount

ambient 73F

c0: 71C
c1: 72C
c2: 66C
c3: 70C
avg: 69.75 - AS5 fresh mount

[nealh]

no no noooo

you don't have to push the screws.

This thing could be installed by a 5 year old.

The back plate has a VERY strong adhesive in the back. Once in place, it will never fall.

Installing uninstaling is a breaze with this. They use my quad for testing in the lab, and I have removed it from my system at least a dozen times. huge difference in convenience with the screw/springs. its just a bolt on. Again, i really don't understand why someone said its a PITA to install.

Well see this what I get for not looking closer..my apologies Gabe...

Oh I did not look closely at the backplate...if there i adhesive this is likely a much easier install...

Only problem then is the need to buy a second backplate for a new mobo...

[gabe]

Well see this what I get for not looking closer..my apologies Gabe...

Oh I did not look closely at the backplate...if there i adhesive this is likely a much easier install...

Only problem then is the need to buy a second backplate for a new mobo...

I have edited my post to show temps..

[nealh]

I have edited my post to show temps..

nice temps

[96redformula]

The hard part about the install Gabe is the fact that you have to keep the screws facing down, so the spacer and lock nut wants to fall off when you mount the waterblock. So this is slightly problematic with the install to hold everything on the screws, while lining it up over the holes.

I feel much safer with this on though, and I am sure it will help my temps too. Any problems I might run into using the plastic washers that lock ( I used them to keep the spacers on so I could mount it without everything falling off the screw) ?

[sick_g4m3r]

Whats the pressure a CPU/CPU socket can handle? With a really cranked hard mount cant you crush the CPU?

[p8ntslinger676]

So...I bought my apogee a little under a year ago, but my proof of purchase was through email, and i have since deleted that, now wtf do i do

I bought it through Performance-PCS so is there anything i can do about that?

EDIT: wait wait wait, nvm, i found it

[96redformula]

Whats the pressure a CPU/CPU socket can handle? With a really cranked hard mount cant you crush the CPU?

I would have to use a torque wrench to figure this out, lol. To much work to answer that question.

It is pretty tight on there, I defiantly would not want it any more pressure than the spacers allow.

[Ad1tya]

http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright...t-pr-3605.html

Including that one?

That would work w/o the Top plate ofcourse. Lol.

You can easily use any Backplate w/ the Screws given to you with your Block.

@ Gabe, Isnt using the Sticky pad on the Backplate problematic, because if you want to change motherboards, its going to be a b1tch to take off, and then its not going to stick on your new Mobo :/.
Happened to me with my Thermalright XP-90 Backplate. Lol.

[MaxxxRacer]

+1 For Swiftech.

Thanks Gabe!