**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Ace-a-Rue]

LoL yeah at least something went right with the whole deal, I told my wife about it and she said "why dont you leave it alone if it isnt broken?, got a stare for a second and she said never mind, that was a stupid question".

sorry, man, for what happened to your case and motherboard....i hate that when it happens to me!

oh yeah, my wife said the same thing back years ago...i just looked at her and shook my head...LOL

[Ace-a-Rue]

Ace, I was looking at the heatpipe mod and I want to greatly thank you for taking your time to post it I was wondering if you can tell me exactly what you bought (shopping list would be nice lol). Also, I don't think you mentioned the temp difference of before and after the mod. Thanks again man.

OH MAN! ...do i have to slpell it out for you...LOL

i thought my posted mod on page 76 of this thread gave all the details...

[Ace-a-Rue]

Well all I did was replace the thermal pads with MX-1 and my temps aren't that bad in the BIOS.

How much did you drop your temps by doing that?

the PWM temp dropped about 8-10C, approximately; maybe more....i just know it dropped significantly that i had to share the mod with everyone else.

i'm not sure about MX-1 paste but i know AS5 paste under heavy pressure can be conductive so that is why i used ceramique.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Ace, did you ever have to press 'ctrl I' to set up your raid volume? There is no mention of this in the manual.

not for AHCI setup..."ctrl I" gets you access to the setup menu for raid after you enable raid in the bios.

[shimmishim]

I assume you mean 4X1GB. I second that question. My motherboard/cpu should be arriving by Friday. Can't wait

4x1GB is fine for me... except i feel like o/cing mem has been a little more difficult since the newest betas (after the official 11).

i'm going to test them again today. i replaced stock NB cooler with water now so we'll see if that helps anything at all.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Every board I've use (Epox 9npa, DFI NF4 and the IP35 mid level) have all showed high PWM temps easily above 80c on dual burns, some higher than 100c. Unless you keep your room at 70F and the vcore at stock you'll too problably get +80c on a dual burn.

the Pro board with the heatpipe mod and at least two 40mm fans added will bring your PWM temperature down to a comfortable value....in my computer case, maybe no higher than 60-63C priming all four cores..but..each computer case is different on evacuating hot air...in addition, room temp will also impact the temperature inside the case.

what is your room temp?...are you AC'ing your room?

[Pntgrd]

Anyone have this happen? I took my system down and reseated the hs with MX-2 and added 2 Antec TriCools instead of 1 San Ace. I also added a 40mm fan on top of the PMW hs. Rebooted and got a bios error that cpu had changed. Reset all my settings and it wouldn't post. Rechecked bios and I noticed that I if I now use the default ram multiplier @ 8x400 it says I am @ DDR1200. Also when in uGuru the PMW Max temp went from it's original 80c to 125c. uGuru is showing all my temps what they were before but things are just way more twitchy than they were. What do you think might have happened?

[Ace-a-Rue]

Yeah I removed that pad before I even started on the IP35. It was a white pad though, not sure why that one is black?

my pad was brown...it probably comes down to cost of the pad at the time they are manufacturing the boards.

It made even contact however I replaced it with AC MX-1 on each chip. It seems to make solid contact and is tight even though I am still using the original pins and despite the paste being much thinner than the pad. PWM temps maxed out at 53c in my testing today, maybe a few degrees hotter on a hot day but nothing near the 90+ degrees that I am seeing on here.

is the temp, 53C, that you quote, outside of the case?

On a side note, you just have to love the effortless overclocking on these chips...my 3700+ San Diego really didn't like me and was so touchy to the smallest increases. This little E6550 is taking a near 1Ghz overclock without a single bump in voltage and loving it. Its even stable with EIST and C1E enabled and doesn't crash when the volts come down at idle....

welcome to the world of INTEL!

[Brother Esau]

my pad was brown...it probably comes down to cost of the pad at the time they are manufacturing the boards.



is the temp, 53C, that you quote, outside of the case?




welcome to the world of INTEL!

Ya ...the Processors are great but the rest of the stuff on Intel Platform since C2D came out is unreliable and all of it has a very short life expectancy!

[RAdoxx]

I can't seem to get 3.3GHz to work, could you guys have a look at my settings and see if you would change anything?

OC GURU:

EXTERNAL CLOCK...................... - 367MHz
MULTIPLIER FACTOR.................. - x 9
DRAM SPEED (CPURAM) 2:3 (Default)
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK.................. - 100MHz

VOLTAGE CONTROL:

CPU CORE VOLTAGE................... - 1.4250V
DDR2 VOLTAGE......................... - 2.300V
CPU VTT 1.2V VOLTAGE............... - 1.20V
MCH 1.25V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.25V
ICH 1.05V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.05V
ICHIO 1.5V VOLTAGE................. - 1.50V
DDR2 REFERENCE VOLTAGE............. - 0%
CPU GTLREF 0+2..................... - 67%
CPU GTLREF 1+4..................... - 67%

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:

DRAM TIMING SELECTABLE............. - MANUAL
CAS LATENCY TIME (TCL).............. - 5
RAS# TO CAS# DELAY (TRCD)........ - 5
RAS# PRECHARGE (TRP)................. - 5
PRECHARGE DELAY (TRAS).............. - 15
REFRESH CYCLE TIME (TRFC).......... - AUTO
WRITE RECOVERY TIME (TWR)........ - AUTO
WRITE TO READ DELAY (TWTR)....... - AUTO
ACT TO ACT (TRRD).................. - AUTO
COMMAND RATE....................... - 2T
PCIE COMPLIANCE MODE............... - V1.0A
PEG FORCE X1....................... - DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST................. - PCIEX

ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:

THERMAL CONTROL.................... - DISABLED
LIMIT CPUID MAXVAL................. - DISABLED
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - ENABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - ENABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - DISABLED

PWM tops out at 61C, CPU at 53C and System 38C.
I realize I could always use more vcore, but the PWM temp is really too high for my liking already :x

[C-N]

I can't seem to get 3.3GHz to work, could you guys have a look at my settings and see if you would change anything?

Have you tried a little chipset/MCH voltage?

How long will 3.3GHz run before it crashes?

P.S Nice layout heres the HTML version if you can use it be my guest

CN

[Knight]

Finally got ATTO.

Raid 0 (2x 7200.10) with volume write back cache:


Without volume write back cache:

[Tarowah]

Man going back to an AB9 after running the IP35 Pro is painful, I guess I should count my blessings I even had a spare board laying around but dang I cant even get this Quad stabole at 3.2ghz with this AB9.

[RAdoxx]

Have you tried a little chipset/MCH voltage?

How long will 3.3GHz run before it crashes?

P.S Nice layout heres the HTML version if you can use it be my guest

CN

It would crash after like 5min in Orthos. Upped MCH voltage to 1.37V, Orthos is still running (15min )

Thanks for the template btw

[Ace-a-Rue]

Anyone have this happen? I took my system down and reseated the hs with MX-2 and added 2 Antec TriCools instead of 1 San Ace. I also added a 40mm fan on top of the PMW hs. Rebooted and got a bios error that cpu had changed. Reset all my settings and it wouldn't post. Rechecked bios and I noticed that I if I now use the default ram multiplier @ 8x400 it says I am @ DDR1200. Also when in uGuru the PMW Max temp went from it's original 80c to 125c. uGuru is showing all my temps what they were before but things are just way more twitchy than they were. What do you think might have happened?

i heard someone else complain about a bios error after reseating their hs down....and....it was said that maybe he clamped or torqued the heatsink to tight.

the only other thing to do is power off...unplug the board ATX power to the mobo and cpu, clear CMOS and remove the battery...maybe a few minutes the most....you can also try removing the memory while clearing cmos.

put everything back together and fire it up to see if you get the same results.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Finally got ATTO.

Raid 0 (2x 7200.10) with volume write back cache:

boy, those images are small for guys with glasses.

why don't you download HDTune...it is a far better bench to evaluate the speed of your raid drives...2nd best is HDTach.

[Knight]

boy, those images are small for guys with glasses.

why don't you download HDTune...it is a far better bench to evaluate the speed of your raid drives...2nd best is HDTach.

I just wanted to run the different hard drive programs. One person pages back wanted me to try ATTO. I didn't know what that was at the time.

Who should I contact? Intel, Seagate, or Abit about the poor HDD performance?

[Ace-a-Rue]

I just wanted to run the different hard drive programs. One person pages back wanted me to try ATTO. I didn't know what that was at the time.

Who should I contact? Intel, Seagate, or Abit about the poor HDD performance?

ATTO is an old and probaly not a reliable bench anymore...download HDTune and then come back with a good size image so all of us can take a shot at it.

don't forget to say if it is a raid setup or a solo drive setup

[Knight]

This is my Raid 0 array: 2x 7200.10



This is the same array with volume write cache:


The first picture is no faster than a singular drive. Yet other people don't need to enable volume write back cache to get above 100MB/s.

[cLOUDFAn]

4x1G work fine for me since day1 w/ stock bios

[SpinCykle]

Well i finally set up the new computer. I still need to update the bios to ver. 11 but here is what she looks like right now. The temps bother me a little for being on water. I followed AS Crem. Instructions to a "t" but i still get these wierd differences in core temp. I have C1E and ESIT dissabled in the bios ATM. If i enable those the temps drop but for some reason it "underclocks" the cpu when im not doing anything.

On a side note I booted at 2.997Ghz/333mhz, 1:1, 1.25 Vcore, 2.2 mem voltage and the temps didnt look to bad. Ran a 5minute small ftt stress test and the max temp's i saw were 47C core 0,2 42C core 1,3. Seems my cores 1 and 3 run 5C cooler than 0 and 2.

Time for the good ol' 24 burn in of the cremq. then its time to see what she will do.

Do you guys think my temps are high for being liquid?

Liquid Set up:

MPC655
MCR320 (yate loon pull config)
Dtek Fuzion
Micro Res.

[zerazax]

4x1GB is fine for me... except i feel like o/cing mem has been a little more difficult since the newest betas (after the official 11).

i'm going to test them again today. i replaced stock NB cooler with water now so we'll see if that helps anything at all.

So the newest BIOS's have actually made OC'ing 4 x 1 GB harder? What about the older BIOS?

[Soulburner]

my pad was brown...it probably comes down to cost of the pad at the time they are manufacturing the boards.

is the temp, 53C, that you quote, outside of the case?

Inside the case, side open. I should probably say that I have a down-blowing HSF, the Thermalright SI-128 and my NB and the immediate area gets some active cooling from that. I can't tell if my PWM heatsink does because I can't get my fingers back there to feel. I am at stock volts though so that is probably helping.

BTW, AC MX-1 is completely non-electrically conductive.

Well i finally set up the new computer. I still need to update the bios to ver. 11 but here is what she looks like right now. The temps bother me a little for being on water. I followed AS Crem. Instructions to a "t" but i still get these wierd differences in core temp. I have C1E and ESIT dissabled in the bios ATM. If i enable those the temps drop but for some reason it "underclocks" the cpu when im not doing anything.

On a side note I booted at 2.997Ghz/333mhz, 1:1, 1.25 Vcore, 2.2 mem voltage and the temps didnt look to bad. Ran a 5minute small ftt stress test and the max temp's i saw were 47C core 0,2 42C core 1,3. Seems my cores 1 and 3 run 5C cooler than 0 and 2.

Sounds good, but 2.2v is way more than the memory is going to need a 333mhz. Mine is at 460mhz with only 2.1v.

[Ace-a-Rue]

This is my Raid 0 array: 2x 7200.10



This is the same array with volume write cache:


The first picture is no faster than a singular drive. Yet other people don't need to enable volume write back cache to get above 100MB/s.

that is strange!...

did you say that you removed the little white jumper off the 7200.10 drives?

i did install the raid on 2 of my 7200.10 drives and i never had to enable the write cache...did nothing to get about the same performance you show on the second image...hmmmmm...don't know what to tell you.

you need to find an savy puter guru guy to let him walk you through the setup of raid...do you have any friends like that living near you?

[Knight]

that is strange!...

did you say that you removed the little white jumper off the 7200.10 drives?

i did install the raid on 2 of my 7200.10 drives and i never had to enable the write cache...did nothing to get about the same performance you show on the second image...hmmmmm...don't know what to tell you.

you need to find an savy puter guru guy to let him walk you through the setup of raid...do you have any friends like that living near you?

TBH I am the smartest with computers. My friends and family ask me for advice... I know, I know... it seems sad...

Abit, Intel, and Seagate support will be contacted tomorrow, to see if they have any idea. I did remove the jumper from both drives.