Official GIGA P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 bios/info thread

[Leeghoofd]

mm 500 FSB with a quad is already extreem, bundle that with an entry level board like the DS3P, I would opt for the DS4 rev 2.0 mate better PWM area, heatpipe etc... and surely will last longer when being heavily pushed then a DS3P

[Millyons]

mm 500 FSB with a quad is already extreem, bundle that with an entry level board like the DS3P, I would opt for the DS4 rev 2.0 mate better PWM area, heatpipe etc... and surely will last longer when being heavily pushed then a DS3P

dude the Only thing that the DS4 has over DS3P is the heatpipe, everything else is the same including the PWM

[Leeghoofd]

kindda mixed up DS3P with DS3 :p my humble apologies, the heatsink works fab though on the DS4, in comparison to my P5K Dlx...

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I can't recommend the DS3P for anyone wanting to OC a quadcore high and do anything 3D. The PCI-E x1 problem is a huge .

[andre X_X]

have you try it??? im goin to use dry ice with 1.7++ Vcore and of course would do 3d and some bench software....

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Yeah, I used the board for a few weeks, and it kept reverting the PCI-E x16 slot to x1. I needed more than +.2 vMCH, which you probably will to, and that is what usually triggers the x1 problem.

[JoeBar]

I have a bit of interesting info here. The gigabyte forum rep wich I talked about earlier had to say this about the PCIE issue:



So P35 chipset does have problem with any MCH voltage higher than +0.2



Anyone knows if X38 behaves the same when using high MCH voltage?

That's what Gigabyte rep thinks...

Indeed P35 chipset inherited a prob from 965 and that's PCI-E 1X prob. I've seen reports (very little though) about same prob happening to some P5K boards (Deluxe and Premium) but these are a minority. In gigabyte m/bs this is the trend.

I've used to own a P35 DS4 for 2 weeks and that problem was the main reason i returned it back. Grabbed a IP35 Pro and have been more than happy. No pci-e 1x prob and that brings us to the Gigabyte rep...


There haven't been any reports with X38 boards reverting to 1X.

[r4st4m4n]

Hi, My P35 DS3 (F6 Bios) lost the overclock many times after the system power down.
When the system start, ocasionaly go down (like a reset) and restart with the default values.

I had a 4300@3000Mhz with 333 fsb, my mems are quimonda 800 runing at 667 1:1 or 800 (also lost the oc)

Any can help me?

Do you use the hibernate mode in Windows instead of shutting down your PC ?

I know my PC revert back to default bios settings when it wakes up from hibernation.

[darcon]

I just got my DS3R, and it's great except for the fact that it won't POST with my PC-8000 2.2v Crucial RAM.
It will, however, work with some old Corsair RAM which I think is rated at 1.9v.
I've tried both Crucial sticks individually, and I'm sure they aren't bad.

So, is this a known issue, and is there any way to resolve it other than switching out the RAM sticks after manually changing the voltage?

[Krohling]

I never had the PCIex x1 issue.

For testing purposes I flashed my DQ6 to BIOS F7b.
Set my usual overclock (8.0x420, RAM divider 2.50, vdimm +0.25v)
And I raised the other voltages, including MCH. First to +0.2 then later to +0.325. I manually set PCIex frequency to 100.

PCIex x1 issue did not show up. I still have PCIex working at x16.

Can't see any useful changes from F6 to F7a/b so far. Now the CPU clock is displayed at the MIT menu. But the voltages are still shown "OK" rather than the actual readings.

So I don't know if the PCIex reverts to x1 in particular cases, or in combination of hardware used, or higher FSBs. Who knows...

[darcon]

Okay, this is weird...

I set the vdimm to 2.2 with my corsair sticks in, switched em out with my crucial sticks, and now when i boot, instead of posting, it loads up some bootblock bios thing that just says "scanning bios image in harddrive"??

Uh... help?

[Krohling]

darcon, if you get that everytime you power up your PC it means that your BIOS is corrupt.

If its looking for the file it may be easy to make the BIOS recovery procedure.

Try copying the BIOS update file to a floppy disk or to a USB drive and power on the computer with either of them, maybe the computer will look for the BIOS update file and flash the BIOS.

I don't know what is the precise BIOS recovery procedure for these new BIOSes but it should be something like that...

[Botijo]

Do you use the hibernate mode in Windows instead of shutting down your PC ?

I know my PC revert back to default bios settings when it wakes up from hibernation.

No the system comes from a full power down. thx

[darcon]

darcon, if you get that everytime you power up your PC it means that your BIOS is corrupt.

If its looking for the file it may be easy to make the BIOS recovery procedure.

Try copying the BIOS update file to a floppy disk or to a USB drive and power on the computer with either of them, maybe the computer will look for the BIOS update file and flash the BIOS.

I don't know what is the precise BIOS recovery procedure for these new BIOSes but it should be something like that...

I only get it when using my Crucial ram. If I use my Corsair ram everything is just fine.
It's really baffling...

PS - I should mention the bios it came with is F5.

[Krohling]

Weird, did you try one DIMM at a time?

[darcon]

Weird, did you try one DIMM at a time?

Yes, I tried every combination with all the slots, but it refuses to boot with the crucial ram (which im certain isnt faulty).
I'm going to run over to my parents' house and get the new f7b bios and see if that might help.

[darcon]

Well, the f7d bios didn't help, so I'm back to square one.
Something weird did happen, though. The last time I tried the crucial sticks, I heard a strange metallic squeak as I powered down the machine. It only did it once and I couldn't pinpoint the location, so I dont really know if it has anything to do with it at all.
Anyway, I guess I'm stuck with my slower ram till I figure out what's going on.

[Krohling]

Did you try a Clear CMOS procedure?

[dnottis]

I only get it when using my Crucial ram. If I use my Corsair ram everything is just fine.
It's really baffling...

PS - I should mention the bios it came with is F5.

Well if it's only that memory. I'd test it in another system. DDR2 is prone to failure, I've had a few sticks die on me as have friends of mine.

[hlonipha]

For me anything higher than +0.2

Setting the PCIE frequency to 101 or 110 doesnt solve it either. I have also tried 105/115 and 120.

You need to up the voltage for your pcie as well. Mine is setup to 110mhz and +.10v.

Good luck

[darcon]

Well if it's only that memory. I'd test it in another system. DDR2 is prone to failure, I've had a few sticks die on me as have friends of mine.

The thing is, I really don't have any way to test them, and having them both go bad at the exact same time just seems so unlikely.
Would there be any hassle if I sent them back to crucial and they turned out to be fine?

PS-Ugh. I think my exact modules have been discontinued. I also found out that I payed over twice as much for them december last year than the pc2-8500 kits are now. That really pisses me off.

[dnottis]

The droop on mine is just killing me. Wasnt too bad with dual core but with a quad I select 1.35v in bios and under load I get about 1.20v. Idle is about 1.32v. I need a board that has a simple pencil mod.

[HitMaker]

I need some help here with a DS3R rev1.0. I had an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe before and i had a 24/7 config:

E6400@3.2Ghz (400x8)
2x1 or 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC5300@800Mhz Cl4-4-4-15
.
.
.

Now i cannot make it work at the same speeds with the gigabyte (CPU and memory are the same), i think i need some help with the timings and some tricky advise too.

Any idea what to do? maybe is the vcore drop?

[SySTaXer]

You need to up the voltage for your pcie as well. Mine is setup to 110mhz and +.10v.

Good luck

Yup did that as well. Mentioned that in my first post here. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[SySTaXer]

That's what Gigabyte rep thinks...

Indeed P35 chipset inherited a prob from 965 and that's PCI-E 1X prob. I've seen reports (very little though) about same prob happening to some P5K boards (Deluxe and Premium) but these are a minority. In gigabyte m/bs this is the trend.

I've used to own a P35 DS4 for 2 weeks and that problem was the main reason i returned it back. Grabbed a IP35 Pro and have been more than happy. No pci-e 1x prob and that brings us to the Gigabyte rep...


There haven't been any reports with X38 boards reverting to 1X.

Have you tried overclocking a quad on I35pro? This review wich was released just yesterday believes that the Vdrop/Vdroop is pretty bad when you try overclocking a quad core on that board. My curent board has its own Vdrop/Vdroop but it's not nearly as big as what is shown in that review. In fact I am pretty satisfied with the Vdrop/Vdroop of P35-DQ6 it's pretty slight and has not caused me any troubles wich again makes me think why such a perfect high quality board should be plagued with this annoying pcie issue .Seems like every board has its own achilles heel.