Swiftech mcw6500 w/ pics and benches

[serialk11r]

No lol, the wires that you connect it to most likely will not be rated for 18A current... You'll have to do some modding.

[theteamaqua]

No lol, the wires that you connect it to most likely will not be rated for 18A current... You'll have to do some modding.

what? so ur saying i cant get all 226W with a normal PSU??

[Holst]

This should be in your OWN thread, not spamming up this one.

Ive allready answered some of your questions IN YOUR OWN THREAD and you didnt reply.

I have also posted a reply about the PSU wires ALLREADY, which its pretty obvious neither of you have read.

[seedomo]

Holst what do you think about my assumption about getting a PSU? I've chosen the Silencer 750, do you think I'm waisting more money? My reasoning is this: It seems that as my overclocks are stopping around 3.8 and they all seem to be around the same wattage.

[Holst]

Holst what do you think about my assumption about getting a PSU? I've chosen the Silencer 750, do you think I'm waisting more money? My reasoning is this: It seems that as my overclocks are stopping around 3.8 and they all seem to be around the same wattage.

Powersupplies are very difficult to understand when overclocking.

Its important to measure voltages using a good quality multimeter. I allways prefered measuring at the ATX connector by soldering pins to a couple of probes and poking them into the back of the wires. (measure 12v on the AUX connector)

If your 12v is running at 11.75 then its a bit low (I would run my 12v at 12.5 or so) but its not dropping much.

Can you ajust the voltages on this PSU?

Buying a new PSU may help your overclock, but it may do absolutely nothing at all
When buying one make sure you do plenty of research (I would always copy what MrIcee or Macci was running if I couldnt decide :P )

Do you have any other PSU you can try?
Even a "worse" PSU might indicate if PSU is affecting your OC.
If with a worse PSU your overclock is just as good then its unlikely a new PSU will help.

Best bet is to borrow a PSU from somebody local for a quick test, swapping PSU's for testing is pretty quick and easy. And will save you allot of money (or cost you allot when if you get a higher OC with a new PSU)

Good luck.

[Pete]

PSU can and will vary your overclock. Had a 600w coolermaster thing, max clock i could get was 3.8, got a PC+P 510w and got 4.3 and my volts never droped or anyhting, totaly soild all the time

[Roger_D25]

Holst,
I couldn't have said it better myself! Choosing a new power supply can be tricky seedomo as the numbers on the side of the supply don't tell the whole story! You could have 10 different 800w power supplies and they will all probably behave differently. As Holst said it would be best if you could properly test your current supply before making another large investment because there is a chance your supply may be absoluty fine? Although I think that Antec is a reputable company there are not many serious overclockers/benchers who run them?

Just do as much research as you can before doing anything (researching is free)! As hardware has become more and more power hungry and enthusiest have become more and more knowledgable about clocking, power supplies have become very important, infact could be one of the most important pieces of hardware you can buy (this is just my opinion).

Holst brought up a great point, if you have a difficult time deciding on a new power supply (assuming that you even need a new one) take a look at some of the other members supplies who you look up to. I think you'll notice a trend on the makes and wattage ratings among the members who are serious about overclocking!

[serialk11r]

Well I do see people bashing Antec PSUs but I love mine the fan is so damn quiet...

[Philly_Boy]

Do you know how many TECs a Meanwell S320 can handle? If I were to use a MCW6500T and two MCW60Ts, do I need two or three Meanwells ? How am I supposed to mount three Meanwell PSUs inside a case and yet exhaust all the pSU heat if they are stacked on top of each other?

Many thanks.

I could only hook up my MCW6500T to my SP320-13.5. If I tried to add a MCW60T then the Meanwell became unstable.

Just too hard to do with the neoprene foam around the socket. I would also probably need to get some flat probes as well. Until then I will report some water temps for ya in a bit. I'm probably going to add the Swiftec 220 rad to the loop and see if it affects the overall results.

You'll get better results from placing the two pumps like this: res>pump 1>pump 2>rad>MCW6500-T. Use the second rad along with another pump (DDC+/MCP355's are nice with Petra's top) to do the gpu and NB/SB. I did something similar and with two MCP355's in series and my water temps came down to 23c/25c (Core0/Core1 TAT loaded on my E6300 doing 3.5ghz @ 1.55vcore) cooled with ambient air running over my PA120.3

PA120.3 with 2x MCP355's with petra's top into MCW6500T:
Ambient=19c
No cold air induction box (it was a warm night)
Boot up CPU idle= -9c (bios)
CPU Core temp= 23c (TAT loaded 1hr)
CPU temp= 11c (my own flat digital K style temp probe on IHS perimeter of top)
H2O temp idle/loaded= 24c idle/28c loaded

yea try it on a single rail PSU with 30+A over 12v rail ... cuz i relaly dont wanna spend 150 on a aux psu

yeah if it eats 320/12 ~ 26A over 12v rail then its running at max , but if its only 18A then ... it means i gotta spend 150 on a aux psu

I tried to hook up the 6500T to my PC P&C Turbo 1K SR and couldn't get the same boot up idle or loaded temps on the CPU core. The Meanwell does an excellent job, albeit on just one TEC block per PSU. My power consumption using a killa-watt wat 322-340 watts (low to high on the Meanwell's voltage adjustment)

I have had the best results with the 120.3 with 2x DDC+ pumps with a 18 quart cooler running 10 ft of tubing thru ice laden salted water. the water temps hover around 23F. Not quite done gathering data yet on this set up...but I have had boot up idle temps in the range of what a single stage phase unit is capable of...and the ice lasts for 2 days if the lid is properly closed. A poor man's phase unit...

[serialk11r]

I could only hook up my MCW6500T to my SP320-13.5. If I tried to add a MCW60T then the Meanwell became unstable.

You'll get better results from placing the two pumps like this: res>pump 1>pump 2>rad>MCW6500-T. Use the second rad along with another pump (DDC+/MCP355's are nice with Petra's top) to do the gpu and NB/SB. I did something similar and with two MCP355's in series and my water temps came down to 28c (TAT loaded on my E6300 doing 3.5ghz @ 1.55vcore) cooled with ambient air running over my PA120.3

PA120.3 with 2x MCP355's with petra's top into MCW6500T:
Ambient=19c
No cold air induction box (it was a warm night)
Boot up CPU idle= -9c (bios)
CPU Core temp= 23c (TAT loaded 1hr)
CPU temp= 11c (my own flat digital K style temp probe on IHS perimeter of top)
H2O temp idle/loaded= 24c idle/28c loaded


I tried to hook up the 6500T to my PC P&C Turbo 1K SR and couldn't get the same boot up idle or loaded temps on the CPU core. The Meanwell does an excellent job, albeit on just one TEC block per PSU. My power consumption using a killa-watt wat 322-340 watts (low to high on the Meanwell's voltage adjustment)

I have had the best results with the 120.3 with 2x DDC+ pumps with a 18 quart cooler running 10 ft of tubing thru ice laden salted water. the water temps hover around 23F. Not quite done gathering data yet on this set up...but I have had boot up idle temps in the range of what a single stage phase unit is capable of...and the ice lasts for 2 days if the lid is properly closed. A poor man's phase unit...

Wow, pretty nice results... Poor man's phase? You call that poor man's phase when you spent how much? I'm still saying yuck at the bad efficiency but those are pretty low temps.

[Philly_Boy]

Wow, pretty nice results... Poor man's phase? You call that poor man's phase when you spent how much? I'm still saying yuck at the bad efficiency but those are pretty low temps.

I already had the water loop set up....all i added was a $8 cooler and heavily salinated ice water....like I said...a poor man's phase....especially on cold nights when I can add 5c air ducted in from the outside over the rad with -4c water running thru it...

[seedomo]

Anyone ever mount their rads in their fridge?

[Duh]

some one did it ( in the bowman era IIRC)

[seedomo]

I've upgraded the PSU now to a Silencer 750 but stability is still a problem at 3.9Ghz. I booted at 1.63V fine. Ran orthos for only 8sec before an error. Then bumped the voltage up and up and finally to 1.78V. With each increase orthos ran longer but only 58sec in the end giving it 1.78, while Core temps rose to 53c. I then bumped some other voltages as well but nothing worked. I guess I might try to boot at the highest clock and try a quick Pi score just for the heck of it. But this experiment to get to 4Ghz I guess ends here.
Any suggestions?

I really think these voltages are so different than any of those guys in the core2 database since they were using early chips. I have one of those early chips and it needs so little voltage compared to this one... but it won't go above 3.75ghz. Reason I bring this up is to say are we dealing with a chip batches that need more than 1.8v to get the best overclocks? Since the amps of these chips are so little compared to the early chips, shouldn't this usher in a whole new group of overclocks at substantially higher voltage? How high is too high? I know most say 1.7 is max for Tec but that seems like such an uninformed numbere since all chips are different and these seem so different that the early ones.

[bro20000]

Would my Corsair HX 620 psu be able to manage a mcw6500! Currently have got the Swiftech's H20-220 Apex Ultra setup and i want better temps! Am looking to put one of these on my loop! Currently on loop is 8800gts and E6850! Would the psu manage it!

[bro20000]

Can anyone help me on this issue!

[Duh]

Would my Corsair HX 620 psu be able to manage a mcw6500! Currently have got the Swiftech's H20-220 Apex Ultra setup and i want better temps! Am looking to put one of these on my loop! Currently on loop is 8800gts and E6850! Would the psu manage it!

standalone or running the whole rig+tec?

[littleowl]

Can anyone help me on this issue!

easy answer, No
you should never put a tec on a powersupply that is for running your system. unless the tec is under 80w and then it is still not really a good idea.

[Javve]

Bro2000 can you start a new thread instead of hijacking this one then put what your current temps are and your setup?

Then could you pm me so I can take a look, pics would be a great plus too Also if you are using the swiftech setup you would do better by getting the thermochill pa 120.3 radiator and I imagine that may solve your problems, but for starters a good measurement for comparison would be great


Okay for the current thread, aux psu mounted in a 5.25 bay? Could you update your pics with your most recent setup, rad mounting, etc?

Thanks and great work btw! You have gotten a lot of answers I was wanting to know about TEC cooling.
How hard would it be to replace the swiftech peltier with a 437W peltier
Link: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/24...tl=g30c105s187

Please feel free to tell me to start a new topic, but thought maybe replacing the peltier would go along with this one

[REVHEAD]

Any one run these Swiftec TECs on a 45nm Quad?