The Ultimate Core 2 Duo Guide: Chipsets, Guides, Links, and more!

[NickS]

Added your information, thank you

[NickS]

Added some 680i stuffs for ya'll

[IluvIntel]

I looked at LSI and Areca cards. I don't think I will be buying a RAID card that costs more than my motherboard. I know they are good, but crap thats expensive. Any recomendations on a CHEAPER reliable RAID 0 card? Sorry I can't stop asking questions, but I don't like on-line reviews for the most part and you guys have more experience on this site than anywhere else I've been so thanks.

Checkout the adaptec 1430SA - cheap 4 port PCIe Raid 0,1 card & they have drivers for vista now.

[jabski]

Great thread. Very helpfull .
Many thanks NickS

[AshkenAZoNi]

10x, gr8.

[hui_ping]

Thanks NickS, this is a great thread.

It help me decide which board to get ... Intel BadAxe2 (XBX2)

[NickS]

Thanks NickS, this is a great thread.

It help me decide which board to get ... Intel BadAxe2 (XBX2)

Sweet man, that's what I like to hear. Let me know how you like it when you get it if you haven't already.

[adamsleath]

all this fuss over 1 or 2 hundred mhz

[adamsleath]

no mention of the quad GT? right now its the best performing 965 board.


edit: other wise pretty sweet job

best performing in what way? fsb? other?

[NickS]

P5B Deluxe is TECHNICALLY the fastest 965P board out, BUT for it to even start to compete it needs vmch, vcore, vdimm and vdroop mods.

[krille]

What about the new P35 and X38 chipsets?
Granted, the X38 chipset mobos haven't really arrived,
thus there can't be much to say about them.
But lots of P35 mobos are readily available and more are coming.

Is P35 the mobo to get, for single-card solutions, right now?
Or are P965/975X mobos still the ones to get,
depending on the multi of the CPU you're getting?

I find it very hard to keep up with all this stuff,
so any help would be great as I'll be upgrading
to C2D soon (within weeks actually).

Regards,


~ Kris

[NickS]

I'll be updating the sticky with that info probably within the month or so, gotta wait for those chipsets to become mainstream and such.

[krille]

I'll be updating the sticky with that info probably within the month or so, gotta wait for those chipsets to become mainstream and such.

Eagerly anticipating the update then!

[faramith]

Hi! i wanted to know if the Q6600 is compatible with the XBX1 rev305, since i havent seen a XBX1 thread around i asked here.

thanks

[krille]

I'll be updating the sticky with that info probably within the month or so, gotta wait for those chipsets to become mainstream and such.

How's the update coming along so far?

[NickS]

IDK, might wait until X38 comes out.

EDIT:

Added:
-Intel P35 Chipset (As much info as I know about it now.. may add more in future, if you know anything important that I missed, feel free to post it here!)
-ASUS P5K Thread under ASUS Threads
-Giga-Byte P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 Thread under Giga-Byte Threads
-Giga-Byte GA-G33M-DS2R mATX Thread under Giga-Byte Threads

[NickS]

Minor changes made..

[peteypete271]

Hi! i wanted to know if the Q6600 is compatible with the XBX1 rev305, since i havent seen a XBX1 thread around i asked here.

My previous D975XBX rev304 could run a Quad only to be severely limited by FSB speed. You really need a CPU with an unlocked multi

[krille]

From what I can make out, P35 is superior to 965P in all ways except thermally. How big is the thermal difference anyway (watts)?
How many extra watts will a P35 based (say P5K Deluxe) system draw compared to a 965P (say P5B Deluxe)?
Would the thermal difference ever justify going for the older 965P?
What about in say a HTPC?

Myself, I probably wouldn't go for the extreme OC anyway as I'm quite sensitive to noise.

[Neon Biker]

The P35 chipset itself is not hotter than P965. Only Asus managed somehow to the consumption numbers of it's P35 boards by about 30W.

link

[krille]

Here it seems ASUS P5K is only 0-3W worse than MSI and Gigabyte P35. At load Gigabyte's actually worse. In all cases the P35 boards are 10-20W worse than DFI Infinity P965.

What's up here?

[NickS]

P35 is power hungry, it has been since it came out. You can tell by the [even] craz[ier]y heatpipe designs board manufacturers are now implementing.

[krille]

P35 is power hungry, it has been since it came out. You can tell by the [even] craz[ier]y heatpipe designs board manufacturers are now implementing.

Indeed, but the bling-bling factor is also high.

Anyway, would you happen to know if ASUS is indeed much hotter, thus warranting me to go Gigabyte or ABIT instead?

I'm not picking ASUS over Gigabyte/ABIT if ASUS is 30-40W hotter for the same performance.

[NickS]

I doubt it is. A chipset is a chipset, the only thing that will affect its TDP is voltage. It may indeed run warmer if ASUS' chipset cooling solution sucks (per normal).

[krille]

I doubt it is. A chipset is a chipset, the only thing that will affect its TDP is voltage. It may indeed run warmer if ASUS' chipset cooling solution sucks (per normal).

I meant "hotter" as in "higher power consumption". Both TechReport and X-bit labs agree the ASUS P35 is 20-40W "hotter" than Gigabyte and Abit.
http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2.../index.x?pg=16
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai..._17.html#sect0

AnandTech on the other hand does not.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2993&p=16

Those numbers are all for the P5K-Deluxe. But what about the Premium / Blitz boards? Do they run "cooler" (power consumption on level with Gigabyte and Abit)?

ASUS P35 seems to be the boards with the least vdroop issues. But does vdroop really matter all that much, I probably wouldn't go for those last 100 Mhz anyway, as those last 100 Mhz usually generate the most heat and I hate noise. Or does it affect stability even at lower overclocks?