Experiment Cu: vinegar, vinegar + salt, solvent

[serialk11r]

WTF look, if solvent/thinner/alcohol/whatever is dangerous to use, then quite a few people would've perished in a dry ice session
Thank you so much Thrilla, now people can finally see for themselves what vinegar does. Just a note on vinegar, vinegar (commercially availiable) has a pH of 2.4, and acetic acid itself can eat through pretty much any metal except aluminum because the oxide layer that forms on aluminum can protect it from acetic acid. According to wikipedia acetic acid is very corrosive for its acidity, but that might not be true, but again it might be.

[Thrilla]

LMAO and don't try the vinegar and salt lol, it's like a blue copper mud right now. I'd use alcohol than paint thinner if I had some, cuz paint thinner is poisonous, alcohol isn't. But still, anti-freeze is more deadly than paint thinner and people use it.

[serialk11r]

Sorry, I'm going to pick at what you said.
Alcohol is toxic, just not as toxic as paint thinner (acetone right?). Well it also depends on the alcohol. Ethanol takes quite a bit to harm you (a bit of acetone still ends up in your liver...), isopropyl screws your liver with an overdose of acetone and you get digestive problems if it gets in your mouth. Methanol (this is my favorite) gets metabolized into formaldehyde which is poisonous and carcinogenic in large amounts, and destroys your optic nerve. Too much formaldehyde, the formic acid that builds up in your system will poison you and you die, the end.

[Thrilla]

I don't think any of us work with those stuff on daily basis... just like how spray paint is toxic, but a case mod or two does nothing to your body. And if you DO perform them on daily basis... I'm sure you'll have a closet full of protection or cleaning tools.

[serialk11r]

Bah, there's plenty of toxic stuff we breath in. Riding my bike to school involves breathing in the nitrous oxides and crap coming from the exhaust pipes of gigantic SUVs that burn gas faster than I can drink root beer. Plenty of sulfric acid, nitric acid, lots of carcinogenic stuff, you name it. Besides, if I were to spray paint something, I'd hold my breath the whole time the same way I hold my breath, run 10 feet away, take a breath, run back, when I use epoxy.

[Thrilla]

hahaha same here, even when I solder, I'd use a respirator. Spray painting gives you huge lung capacities lol

[serialk11r]

I use lead free solder... I'm used to the lead fume smell anyways. Its not nearly as bad as epoxy.

[Thrilla]

It's not the lead its the flux lol, solder itself doesn't produce fumes. I haven't used epoxy in ages after I bought an oxy propane torch lol =P

[ColonelCain]

Ok, so in-conclusion: What is the best rad/ waterblock cleaner to use, and for how long? (That won't make your tubes cloudy)

[largon]

Gotta love your strap-on macro lens, Thrilla.

[serialk11r]

Ok, so in-conclusion: What is the best rad/ waterblock cleaner to use, and for how long? (That won't make your tubes cloudy)

The cleaner should not make your tubes cloudy, if you were smart enough to rinse it out whatever it is. Assuming that you are using PVC tubing, anything but ketones (that you would use to clean it) will not do any damage. I have alcohol sitting in a section of tubing for 2 months already, and it is crystal clear. Don't tell me you listened to Spawne32's BS.

[ColonelCain]

Didn't listen to his BS. Same question, with clear tubing.

[p8ntslinger676]

This is why I just use scalding hot water

[ColonelCain]

So thats it eh? Scalding hot water?

[Stabbin]

I've found a 5% HCl + 95% distilled water mixture works best. Rinse with pure distilled water. Cleans copper in seconds. Keep it off any paint though.

[BillA]

Incredible man, all I can say and will.

andyc

Log Out time for me, its pointless

[Cathar]

We put salt and vinegar on our chips (fries) over in Australia. Nice on deep fried dim-sims too.

Not too sure about radiators. A little too crunchy methinks.

[SiGfever]

We put salt and vinegar on our chips (fries) over in Australia. Nice on deep friend dim-sims too.

Not too sure about radiators. A little too crunchy methinks.

[Mr. Peanut]

We put salt and vinegar on our chips (fries) over in Australia. Nice on deep fried dim-sims too.

Not too sure about radiators. A little too crunchy methinks.

If your rad cleaner doesn't taste good, how are you going to clean it out with your tounge?

[serialk11r]

I've found a 5% HCl + 95% distilled water mixture works best. Rinse with pure distilled water. Cleans copper in seconds. Keep it off any paint though.

HCl...... I would be scared to put that stuff on anything metal. Its pH is a little lower than pure acetic acid (if I calculated properly which I think I did). In 5th grade I did an experiment with that stuff. I was really evil, I had a 1% mixture or something like that, and I watered some plants with it and they all turned black and died. It happened so that I spilled some 30% HCl on my pants and it left an orange stain on the green pants

[serial099]

If your rad cleaner doesn't taste good, how are you going to clean it out with your tounge?

That sounds pretty gross. Wonder who would clean out the radiator with their tounge. I suppose if you only had a little bit left in there....no, n/m not even then. *bleh*

[dengyong]

Ammonia attacks copper, if you'd like to try that.

[Jasy]

This is a nice experience, yesterday i bought vinegar to clean my radiator... Perhaps i'll have to clean this with hot water like back in the days...

[Waterlogged]

This is a nice experience, yesterday i bought vinegar to clean my radiator... Perhaps i'll have to clean this with hot water like back in the days...

Vinegar is no longer used to clean anything, unless you have a bit of tarnish you'd like to remove from a block. Even then, we prefer Ketchup for a few minutes.

[ladderman]

I use X300 Universal Cleanser, it’s used buy heating engineers to Flushes out flux and installation debris from new indirect central heating systems.

I spoke with the tech department at Sentinel and they told me it wouldn’t harm my watercooling parts.

So I used it to clean my PA120.3 & BIP before installing, and it did a great job.

I’m just about to strip my system down to do a full clean, so I’ll use it again.

http://www.sentinel-solutions.net/en...g-Chemical.pdf