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Thread: Face to Face of entry level dual core processors,AMD X2 4200+ V.S. Intel C2D E6300

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    Face to Face of entry level dual core processors,AMD X2 4200+ V.S. Intel C2D E6300

    The evolution of dual core cell in second half 2006, the product line already
    into stable situation, both Intel/AMD all have dual core series product line in
    the market.
    There will be more Quad Core processor products and exposures in 2007.


    Let’s take a look on exist dual core processors,
    The newest Intel processor Core 2 Duo, entry product is C2D E6300 with in
    184USD.
    The same price segment product


    This time we test 2 processors due to same price segment compare when in
    default clock.
    Why not overclock to test?
    Cause there already had lots of overclock review over the world, Intel Core 2
    series limited up to 3.6~4GHz, AM2 is about 3GHz, no matter overclock or
    not, Intel Core 2 series got better performance, besides, normal users will not
    overclock especially for SI or business use.
    So I use default frequency to test their basic performance to fulfill the normal
    usage information with same price.


    Here they are!
    Right side: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
    Left side: AMD Athlon64 4200+ X2




    The motherboards:
    Intel
    MSI P965 Platinum




    AMD
    DFI INFINITY NF 570 SLI-M2/G




    Test DDR
    CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
    Although this is PC8888 with DDR2 1111MHz speed, but as long as we run on
    DDR2 800 with same CL timing, that will not be an issue.




    Test VGA
    MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256EZ
    I planed to use 7900GS or 8800GTX before, but 7900GT will be a suitable
    level for this competition within mainstream segment.




    The testing platform setup
    Intel
    CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
    MB: MSI P965 Platinum
    DRAM:CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
    VGA:MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256EZ
    HD:Seagate 7200.7 80GB
    POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
    Cooler:Tower112




    AMD
    CPU:AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+
    MB: DFI INFINITY NF 570 SLI-M2/G
    DRAM:CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
    VGA:MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256EZ
    HD:Seagate 7200.5 120GB
    POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
    Cooler:Tower112


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    waiting for more results

    will u test them @ stock or overclocked or both ?
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    Processor info
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6300:266X7=>1866Mhz
    AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+:201X11=>2210Mhz

    Memory info
    BIOS did run with same set up on DDR2 800 CL=3-3-3-9, AM2 got some issue
    with the DDR frequency multiple, so the real frequency is DDR2 737 CL3-3-3-9, 1T.

    Besides motherboards with different chipset, other conditional is all the same.

    The most popular testing software: Super PI and CPU Mark.

    Intel



    AMD



    PCMARK2005

    Intel



    AMD



    3DMARK2006
    3D performance and CPU score

    Intel



    AMD



    CINEBENCH 9.5

    Intel



    AMD



    CrystalMark

    Intel



    AMD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
    waiting for more results

    will u test them @ stock or overclocked or both ?
    Why not overclock to test?
    Cause there already had lots of overclock review over the world, Intel Core 2
    series limited up to 3.6~4GHz, AM2 is about 3GHz, no matter overclock or
    not, Intel Core 2 series got better performance, besides, normal users will not
    overclock especially for SI or business use.
    So I use default frequency to test their basic performance to fulfill the normal
    usage information with same price.


    Interesting results, I figured AMD would win just because of the massive clock differences, but it seems I'm wrong. Do you think you could try some audio/video encoding, rendering, photoshop, and winrar?
    Last edited by afireinside; 01-13-2007 at 08:14 PM.
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    ya sorry for that

    also some game benchmarks liek Fear or FarCry @ medium settings
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    EVEREST performance test

    Memory read test

    Intel



    AMD



    Memory write test

    Intel



    AMD



    Memory data copy

    Intel



    AMD




    Intel



    AMD




    Due to the AM2 platform DDR2 multiple limited, DDR2 only run on 737MHz
    But in EVEREST test, AM2 got better performance then Intel platform with DDR2 800.

    CPU Queen

    Intel



    AMD



    CPU PhotoWorxx

    Intel



    AMD



    CPU ZLib

    Intel



    AMD



    CPU test, AM2 got better score with higher frequency.
    We use nForce 570 SLI motherboard, CPUZ also showed the nForce 570 SLI.
    I wonder why AM2 platform showed the nForce4 SLI ?!


    FPU Julia

    Intel



    AMD



    FPU Mandel

    Intel



    AMD



    FPU SinJulia

    Intel



    AMD



    On the FPU test, Intel did clear leading position in first 3 of the test.
    In the last FPU Julia test, AM2 get back some score.


    In the final:
    I used some of the popular testing program to have the numbers,
    Beside AM2 take the lead on EVEREST and Intel got better performance with
    SuperPI, their performance were equally the same with balanced test result
    with other software.


    In my opinion, AM2 can not beat Intel on SuperPI with big range result, in the
    other test, AM2 could catch up Intel Core 2 Duo series with 350MHz~450
    MHz higher, that’s also the frequency difference between AM2 4200+ X2 2.2G
    and E6300 1.86G.


    About the temperature,
    65nm Core 2 Duo is almost the same temp. with 90nm AM2 procesors
    between 2~4 degree.
    This time we got 65W version on AMD 4200+ X2, the code is ADO means 65
    W, Intel Core 2 Duo is also 65W refer to the formal information.
    So they are both the same quality on temperature and watts.


    Some performance user would like to focus on overclock performance, Intel
    Core 2 series could have the chance up to 3.6~4GHz, but AM2 just only over
    3GHz so far, so lead in 65nm procedure and reduce the watts will be the first
    priority on AMD side.


    But for normal DIY computer or local brand PC user,
    These 2 different dual core platform got almost same performance,
    consumers should consider more on motherboard,
    memory and other components combination to consider!



    I would like to have an entry level dual core platform test all the time, this
    test review did a little bit late for readers, compare the performance with
    same price segment CPUs.
    Most of the dual core products will become vendor’s main benefit income, the
    only thing we have to consider is cost and performance and what we need to
    work on for a PC, we don’t need to focus on I or A brand with emotional
    discuss, just need to take a look on test result and get what you really need
    on the market!
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    lots of thanks.
    very nice comparisson.
    i wanted to go from a x2 3800+ to an E6300,, but know i´m doubting about it.

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    Very nice review WWM.

    Nevertheless, I don't see the point comparing those 2 processors here in XS if there is no overclock at all. Who here run a E6300 @ 1862 mhz! Even running @ 3000 mhz is no sweat....

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    Nice review. I wasnt expecting such a large gap in 3dmark between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrow13
    Nice review. I wasnt expecting such a large gap in 3dmark between the two.

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    very nice and in depth review..

    we should have more of these reviews so that we will not be use by the marketing of manufacturers..
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    **Right side: AMD Athlon64 4200+ X2
    Left side: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300

    in-depth review, i like

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    good review, though I wonder if it would be too much to ask for a couple games to be tested?
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    you seem to be using 1T for the AMD set up, and a 965 board for the Intel set up which is a 2T board, and has no options for 1T.

    so the results arent exactly even, considering the AMD board has faster ram.

    AMD in theoretical benchmarks tends to get big boosts from the 1T setting, so that makes the majority of the ram based testing kinda screwed up.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak
    you seem to be using 1T for the AMD set up, and a 965 board for the Intel set up which is a 2T board, and has no options for 1T.

    so the results arent exactly even, considering the AMD board has faster ram.

    AMD in theoretical benchmarks tends to get big boosts from the 1T setting, so that makes the majority of the ram based testing kinda screwed up.
    but am2 setup is running at DDR2 737, so i think it´s even, as intel is runnig at 800

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak
    you seem to be using 1T for the AMD set up, and a 965 board for the Intel set up which is a 2T board, and has no options for 1T.

    so the results arent exactly even, considering the AMD board has faster ram.

    AMD in theoretical benchmarks tends to get big boosts from the 1T setting, so that makes the majority of the ram based testing kinda screwed up.
    well he can still drop AMD to T2 but it still is gonna kick ass on memory bandwidth and latency
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    Very good review of the two setups..

    I would have also liked to have seen a few games FPS VS' in there as well.
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