!!!The Ultimate K8L Thread 2007 & Beyond!!!

[IFMU]

Ok, how about this, this thread is about AMD. Not about comparing to Intel. Brent, call someone a fanboy and you will be taking some time off.

Keep the thread on topic and stay the he** out if you have nothing worth saying.

K?
K.

IFMU

[Carfax]

These policies are absurd..

How can you discuss AMD without discussing their principal competitor Intel?

They are two sides of a coin, and the C2D is the only barometer we have for estimating the performance of the K10, therefore any discussion on the C2D as it relates to the K10, is valid.

I posted the C2D and the K8 benchmarks, because I wanted to demonstrate the value of a good SSE2 implementation (which is important to AMD), which Shintai was dismissing..

[IFMU]

These policies are absurd..

How can you discuss AMD without discussing their principal competitor Intel?

Well no one is forcing you to stay here.
I am sick of people who hate AMD/Intel going into the others section and doing nothing but bashing those who like the section THEY ARE IN.
If you dont like one brand, go to the other section and stay there.
By the gawds is it so hard to have a discussion about something without someone having to call you a fanboy because you like one over another?
If you want to discuss AMD vs Intel or AIT vs nVidia? then do in in the General Hardware areas, not in the areas that are dedicated to them specificly.
Is that hard to comprehend for anyone?
If I think all cars suck I am not going to go into the Car/Trucks section just to tell everyone they are fanboys.

It is the way it is, if you dont like it no one is forcing anyone to be here.
This is not a democracy.

IFMU

P.S. Yes you can report this post to other staff if you feel I have attacked you in some way.

Otherwise
Accept it
Acknowledge it
Move on.

[Solarfall]

does any on have any idea how much will these k8l chips cost, when they come out?
and does any one know the date when they WILL come out?

[[XC] Teroedni]

Well according to Amd they come in q2 2007 and hkepc had a article stating that K10 Opterons come from 1,9-2.5 ghz in q2 2007 .
I have posted the links in this thread. Im too lazy to search true 26 pages with mostly arguing now, sorry . Perhaps i relink them later.

We will probably see Opterons Barecelona (socket 1207 2p 4x2=8cores) and
Budapest (Am2 Opterons 1000series). But they will probably be few in the channel. As for prices . I would guess cheapest for 400$.






Ok found one
I see if i can link the others later

[Solarfall]

ok thanks for the info gues, so mid 07 thats too long i want one now

[mongoled]

Well no one is forcing you to stay here.
I am sick of people who hate AMD/Intel going into the others section and doing nothing but bashing those who like the section THEY ARE IN.
If you dont like one brand, go to the other section and stay there.
By the gawds is it so hard to have a discussion about something without someone having to call you a fanboy because you like one over another?
If you want to discuss AMD vs Intel or AIT vs nVidia? then do in in the General Hardware areas, not in the areas that are dedicated to them specificly.
Is that hard to comprehend for anyone?
If I think all cars suck I am not going to go into the Car/Trucks section just to tell everyone they are fanboys.

It is the way it is, if you dont like it no one is forcing anyone to be here.
This is not a democracy.

IFMU

P.S. Yes you can report this post to other staff if you feel I have attacked you in some way.

Otherwise
Accept it
Acknowledge it
Move on.

thanks for stepping into this thread and placing a logical order into the manner upon which people should be posting in this thread and most importantly in this particular part of the forum.

its difficult to understand how some clearly inteligent people are unable to understand the concept of the forums title; AMD. While discussion is required between both competitors cpus this comparison, analysis and disection should be conducted in the correct part of the forums. This is not the place to do it.

The general hardware section would welcome the traffic Please peeps, take it to the correct section and leave the 'fanboys' to discuss the cpus they like without the need to defend this.

im thankful to the mods here at XS, they keep things from really boiling over, nipping it in the bud. Sometimes it looks like they aint around but when required their presence can be felt.





mong

[ether.real]

Amen to that IFMU...I want to read information, not fight flames.

[Judaeus Apella]

I don't know anything about K8L, but I'd like to know what type of memory K8L mobos will support. I want to invest in a K8L system later, so I'd like to keep my eye open for any deals. Or do you recommend waiting because better memory tech for K8L systems will be available sometime next year?

[ether.real]

K8L will support DDR2 and DDR3. I would wait until 2GB modules become a little more mainstream, if you ask me.

[Judaeus Apella]

Ah good advice. Thanks Yeah I saw those 2x1g Corsairs being sold for over $650. Who ever spends that kind of money on two sticks of ram, I have a bridge for sale.

Edit:
Wait a minute... did you just say DDR3? Like the memory they put in vcards? Whats different about it? I must know more about this "DDR3"!!

[oldblue]

Wait a minute... did you just say DDR3? Like the memory they put in vcards? Whats different about it? I must know more about this "DDR3"!!

There's a DDR3 Guru around here somewhere, but he's pretty shy and doesn't post much.

[nn_step]

Ah good advice. Thanks Yeah I saw those 2x1g Corsairs being sold for over $650. Who ever spends that kind of money on two sticks of ram, I have a bridge for sale.

Edit:
Wait a minute... did you just say DDR3? Like the memory they put in vcards? Whats different about it? I must know more about this "DDR3"!!

Do not ever confuse DDR3 with GDDR3, because they are very different animals

[ether.real]

DDR3 is essentially DDR2 with a process shrink. Which means:

-lower voltage
-higher clocks
-higher capacity

[nn_step]

DDR3 is essentially DDR2 with a process shrink. Which means:

-lower voltage
-higher clocks
-higher capacity

NO and BAD
DDR3 supports any new features such as:
1)Introduction of asynchronous RESET pin
2)Support of system level flight time compensation
3)On-DIMM Mirror friendly DRAM ballout
4)Introduction of CWL (CAS Write Latency) per speed bin
5)On-die IO calibration engine
6)READ and WRITE calibration
7)Fly-by command/address/control bus with On-DIMM termination
8)High precision calibration resistors

Which means lower power, Lower latency, more bandwidth and Higher capacity.

[Judaeus Apella]

Ah, thanks step and ether.

Do not ever confuse DDR3 with GDDR3, because they are very different animals

Sh*t... You don't think I angered the gods of overclocking do you? I hope I don't need a sacrifice for my Delta fan...

[The Ghost]

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...kaigai_01l.gif

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...kaigai_06l.gif

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...kaigai_07l.gif

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...%3Den%26sa%3DG

[Judaeus Apella]

Wow, its just amazing to me to see something that small, knowing how powerful it is.

[MAS]

read http://www.chilehardware.com/foro/cp...ight=barcelona
what do they speak about?

[DoubleZero]

read http://www.chilehardware.com/foro/cp...ight=barcelona
what do they speak about?

Well, he said he have a cpu that CPU-Z can't detect at all in the first post, later he said it wasn't Intel... so basicaly he is saying he got a K10 in hands.

[The Ghost]

if you look at the pic , it does say unknown amd cpu

here is the english version
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...ht%3Dbarcelona

[Shintai]

You gonna need AM3 for DDR3. AM2+ will only do DDR2.

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?...me=0&endtime=0

[tam2]

NO and BAD
DDR3 supports any new features such as:
1)Introduction of asynchronous RESET pin
2)Support of system level flight time compensation
3)On-DIMM Mirror friendly DRAM ballout
4)Introduction of CWL (CAS Write Latency) per speed bin
5)On-die IO calibration engine
6)READ and WRITE calibration
7)Fly-by command/address/control bus with On-DIMM termination
8)High precision calibration resistors

Which means lower power, Lower latency, more bandwidth and Higher capacity.

I LOOOOVE those "lower' parts

-tam2-

[verndewd]

Well, he said he have a cpu that CPU-Z can't detect at all in the first post, later he said it wasn't Intel... so basicaly he is saying he got a K10 in hands.

he also says he signed an NDA.I cant fathom how chile rates among the ES recipients And me;joe america does not

[i found nemo]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...203151532.html

2 Years 5 months is not 3 years.

seemed alot longer than that to me lol. i'm not an old school clocker though, when i had a pentium mmx you guys were on athlon xp's with barton cores 'n such. and when i came on this board i had a compaq computer lol. but i remember some ppl said clock for clock pIII was quicker than pIV that made me lol.