!!!The Ultimate K8L Thread 2007 & Beyond!!!

**pengizzle** · 01-31-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Here...I'll save you the trouble.....http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/show...3&postcount=36

By the way, those are fake.....

and u know thats a fake...becuz...???

**nn_step** · 01-31-2007, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by pengizzle

and u know thats a fake...becuz...???

B is mass market, A is ES

**pengizzle** · 01-31-2007, 07:56 PM

i would think that right now AMD already produces mass markt K8Ls....and this guy, probably a slippery chinese dude, maybe got his hands on one of these..far out..but...possible?

**nn_step** · 01-31-2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by pengizzle

i would think that right now AMD already produces mass markt K8Ls....and this guy, probably a slippery chinese dude, he may have gotten his hands on one of these..far out..but...possible?

if that is true, we would be seeing K8L retail in under 2 weeks

**pengizzle** · 01-31-2007, 08:07 PM

time for a new thread in the news forum: "K8L to come within next two weeks?"

but seriously wouldnt they need some time to produce enough units for worldwide delivery? i got no imagination of batch/lot numbers there.

**nn_step** · 01-31-2007, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by pengizzle

time for a new thread in the news forum: "K8L to come within next two weeks?"

but seriously wouldnt they need some time to produce enough units for worldwide delivery? i got no imagination of batch numbers there.

if it is a B chip, that means it had to be made about 6 months ago thus they have enough for a launch or are very close to it.

**pengizzle** · 01-31-2007, 08:14 PM

k, thx.

**Shadowmage** · 01-31-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by JumpingJack

There is no such thing as a 'low-k' metal gate.... 'low-k' is good for the backend processing for decreasing RC (wire) delay. Do you know what you are talking about? And the current gate material AMD is using is actually just plain old vanilla poly silicon, same as the rest of the industry.

I think this is what he means:

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/s...leID=196701258

For low-k, AMD used Applied Materials Inc.'s Black Diamond CVD-based technology up until the 90-nm node. At 65 nm, it switched to an IBM low-k film, dubbed SiCOH, that has a k-value of 2.7.

**Andrew LB** · 01-31-2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by w0mbat

Yes. Give AMD about 2-3 weeks and you guys can start

each other.

**[cTx]Philosophy** · 01-31-2007, 11:28 PM

I just wanna see some performance numbers..

**MAS** · 02-01-2007, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by mAJORD

Dude the L3 cache line isn't even centered vertically!

fake. Sorry.

can u say for sure cpu-z creator made L3 field centered vertically? and if not?
to ensure u have to take a SS of any announced cpu with L3 cache

**pengizzle** · 02-01-2007, 06:10 AM

easy to destroy but so hard to create...

btw i remember we had this in xs that ppl were accused of faking screens of upcoming Intel/AMD products and got flamed by omniscient "fake-screamers" and later those pics turned out to be true.

so..whatever just a screen and so much time to flame...give us a launch (AMD) and end this

for at least some weeks.

**hurleybird** · 02-01-2007, 10:56 AM

Also, why did he blank out voltage? And look at the codename field, the blank out doesen't look big enough to actually cover much up...

**cpuz** · 02-01-2007, 11:59 AM

Hey guys,
cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very very little chance it displays one, unless the prog is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
So, all are fakes.
Franck

**Lightman** · 02-01-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by nn_step

B is mass market, A is ES

I think you are wrong on this one. I have Athlon XP 'A' and is normal retail CPU.

But sometimes (http://badhardware.blogspot.com/2006...y-rainier.html) K8L was referred as Revision B!

CPU-Z 1.38 can't recognize 'Code Name' of K8L family CPUs so it's putting there simply 'K8L' (sprayed but very short name). It's saying this is Opteron 1220 because of 2.8GHz clock (as normal 1220 has). For me everything is looking LOGICAL on this screen shot.
Only thing not right is CPU 1/2 selection box which is grayed

**Lightman** · 02-01-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by cpuz

Hey guys,
cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very little chance it display it, unless it is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
So, all are fakes.
Franck

And in case of K8L?? You know your software best

Did you already get CPU signatures for K8L family?? Or AMD is very secretive about that?

**cpuz** · 02-01-2007, 12:12 PM

I got some hints about K8L signature, but nothng 100% sure. This is why the dump above shows the "K8L" string, but no code names yet. So "Altair" has no chance to be displayed neither.

I'm the 1st to be sorry, a K8L dump would be a great chance !

**Lightman** · 02-01-2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by cpuz

I got some hints about K8L signature, but nothng 100% sure. This is why the dump above shows the "K8L" string, but no code names yet. So "Altair" has no chance to be displayed neither.

I'm the 1st to be sorry, a K8L dump would be a great chance !

Yeah! looks like it really is (K8L) best kept secret of x86 world EVER!
I wonder WHY??

Thanks for quick reply CPUZ!

**w0mbat** · 02-01-2007, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lightman

[...]
Only thing not right is CPU 1/2 selection box which is grayed

It´s always grayed:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1...pi27906ww8.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?i...perpi1mqp6.jpg

**Lightman** · 02-01-2007, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by w0mbat

It´s always grayed:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1...pi27906ww8.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?i...perpi1mqp6.jpg

Yes! My mistake!

It was possible to choose a core in older versions, now it's only available if you have 2 or more SOCKETS....

**s7e9h3n** · 02-01-2007, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by cpuz

Hey guys,
cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very very little chance it displays one, unless the prog is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
So, all are fakes.
Franck

Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way

I'll show you guys what a real K8L CPUZ looks like SOON (But that doesn't mean tomorrow)

**Lightman** · 02-01-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way

I'll show you guys what a real K8L CPUZ looks like SOON (But that doesn't mean tomorrow)

s7e9h3n so 'SOON' mean more like week or month?? Can you be a bit more precisely?

I'm guessing it's less than one year

**SEA** · 02-01-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way

...came to conclusion by looking at real cpuz window being run on real k8l machine

(my guess

)

**s7e9h3n** · 02-01-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lightman

s7e9h3n so 'SOON' mean more like week or month?? Can you be a bit more precisely?

I'm guessing it's less than one year

Gimme a couple of weeks - but don't hold me to that

...I gotta check first

I have a feeling we may be seeing some screens even earlier (but not from me)

**doompc** · 02-01-2007, 04:30 PM

The CPU Selection BOX is for multi socket boards, like the Quad FX:

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