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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Here...I'll save you the trouble.....http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/show...3&postcount=36

    By the way, those are fake.....

    and u know thats a fake...becuz...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by pengizzle
    and u know thats a fake...becuz...???
    B is mass market, A is ES
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    i would think that right now AMD already produces mass markt K8Ls....and this guy, probably a slippery chinese dude, maybe got his hands on one of these..far out..but...possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pengizzle
    i would think that right now AMD already produces mass markt K8Ls....and this guy, probably a slippery chinese dude, he may have gotten his hands on one of these..far out..but...possible?
    if that is true, we would be seeing K8L retail in under 2 weeks
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    time for a new thread in the news forum: "K8L to come within next two weeks?"

    but seriously wouldnt they need some time to produce enough units for worldwide delivery? i got no imagination of batch/lot numbers there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pengizzle
    time for a new thread in the news forum: "K8L to come within next two weeks?"

    but seriously wouldnt they need some time to produce enough units for worldwide delivery? i got no imagination of batch numbers there.
    if it is a B chip, that means it had to be made about 6 months ago thus they have enough for a launch or are very close to it.
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    k, thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack
    There is no such thing as a 'low-k' metal gate.... 'low-k' is good for the backend processing for decreasing RC (wire) delay. Do you know what you are talking about? And the current gate material AMD is using is actually just plain old vanilla poly silicon, same as the rest of the industry.

    I think this is what he means:

    http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/s...leID=196701258

    For low-k, AMD used Applied Materials Inc.'s Black Diamond CVD-based technology up until the 90-nm node. At 65 nm, it switched to an IBM low-k film, dubbed SiCOH, that has a k-value of 2.7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat

    Yes. Give AMD about 2-3 weeks and you guys can start each other.

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    I just wanna see some performance numbers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD
    Dude the L3 cache line isn't even centered vertically!

    fake. Sorry.



    can u say for sure cpu-z creator made L3 field centered vertically? and if not?
    to ensure u have to take a SS of any announced cpu with L3 cache

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    easy to destroy but so hard to create...

    btw i remember we had this in xs that ppl were accused of faking screens of upcoming Intel/AMD products and got flamed by omniscient "fake-screamers" and later those pics turned out to be true.

    so..whatever just a screen and so much time to flame...give us a launch (AMD) and end this for at least some weeks.

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    Also, why did he blank out voltage? And look at the codename field, the blank out doesen't look big enough to actually cover much up...

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    Hey guys,
    cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very very little chance it displays one, unless the prog is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
    So, all are fakes.
    Franck
    Last edited by cpuz; 02-01-2007 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step
    B is mass market, A is ES

    I think you are wrong on this one. I have Athlon XP 'A' and is normal retail CPU.

    But sometimes (http://badhardware.blogspot.com/2006...y-rainier.html) K8L was referred as Revision B!

    CPU-Z 1.38 can't recognize 'Code Name' of K8L family CPUs so it's putting there simply 'K8L' (sprayed but very short name). It's saying this is Opteron 1220 because of 2.8GHz clock (as normal 1220 has). For me everything is looking LOGICAL on this screen shot.
    Only thing not right is CPU 1/2 selection box which is grayed
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpuz
    Hey guys,
    cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very little chance it display it, unless it is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
    So, all are fakes.
    Franck

    And in case of K8L?? You know your software best
    Did you already get CPU signatures for K8L family?? Or AMD is very secretive about that?
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    I got some hints about K8L signature, but nothng 100% sure. This is why the dump above shows the "K8L" string, but no code names yet. So "Altair" has no chance to be displayed neither.

    I'm the 1st to be sorry, a K8L dump would be a great chance !

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpuz
    I got some hints about K8L signature, but nothng 100% sure. This is why the dump above shows the "K8L" string, but no code names yet. So "Altair" has no chance to be displayed neither.

    I'm the 1st to be sorry, a K8L dump would be a great chance !

    Yeah! looks like it really is (K8L) best kept secret of x86 world EVER!
    I wonder WHY??

    Thanks for quick reply CPUZ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman
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    Only thing not right is CPU 1/2 selection box which is grayed
    It´s always grayed:

    http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1...pi27906ww8.jpg
    http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?i...perpi1mqp6.jpg
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    Yes! My mistake!

    It was possible to choose a core in older versions, now it's only available if you have 2 or more SOCKETS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpuz
    Hey guys,
    cpuz does not even look for a L3 cache on K8, so, there are very very little chance it displays one, unless the prog is tweaked / debugged / photoshoped.
    So, all are fakes.
    Franck
    Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way

    I'll show you guys what a real K8L CPUZ looks like SOON (But that doesn't mean tomorrow)

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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way

    I'll show you guys what a real K8L CPUZ looks like SOON (But that doesn't mean tomorrow)
    s7e9h3n so 'SOON' mean more like week or month?? Can you be a bit more precisely?

    I'm guessing it's less than one year
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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Thank you for confirming....I came to the conclusion another way
    ...came to conclusion by looking at real cpuz window being run on real k8l machine
    (my guess )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman
    s7e9h3n so 'SOON' mean more like week or month?? Can you be a bit more precisely?

    I'm guessing it's less than one year
    Gimme a couple of weeks - but don't hold me to that ...I gotta check first I have a feeling we may be seeing some screens even earlier (but not from me)

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    The CPU Selection BOX is for multi socket boards, like the Quad FX:

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