RD600 first look and general questions

[pcmoddingmy]

Guys, the NB really runs hot. If you have poor case cooling, NB temps gets up to 80C. I've tested on an open bench (28C room temp) with/without a 120mm case fan facing towards the mobo and here are my results based on the stock volt, stock NB heatsink&TIM:

With Case Fan:
Idle: 54ºC | Load: 57ºC

No Case Fan
Idle: 82ºC | Load: 84ºC

For an 80nm chip and at only 1.28V, I think RD600 outputs quite a lot of heat. The stock heatsink gets way too hot without case cooling and it stays hot for about 5-10 minutes even after shutdown. I had to wait a few minutes to remove the NB heatsink as it was too hot to touch. My max bootable with the stock NB heatsink was around 490FSB.

Currently testing with a Thermalright HR-05 and NB temps dropped by about 10ºC. I'm getting around 50ºC (w/case fan) and 74ºC (w/o case fan). I strongly suggest swapping out the NB heatsink as soon as you get the board. Will try out higher FSB with HR-05 installed

[nealh]

Guys, the NB really runs hot. If you have poor case cooling, NB temps gets up to 80C. I've tested on an open bench (28C room temp) with/without a 120mm case fan facing towards the mobo and here are my results based on the stock volt, stock NB heatsink&TIM:

With Case Fan:
Idle: 54ºC | Load: 57ºC

No Case Fan
Idle: 82ºC | Load: 84ºC

For an 80nm chip and at only 1.28V, I think RD600 outputs quite a lot of heat. The stock heatsink gets way too hot without case cooling and it stays hot for about 5-10 minutes even after shutdown. I had to wait a few minutes to remove the NB heatsink as it was too hot to touch. My max bootable with the stock NB heatsink was around 490FSB.

Currently testing with a Thermalright HR-05 and NB temps dropped by about 10ºC. I'm getting around 50ºC (w/case fan) and 74ºC (w/o case fan). I strongly suggest swapping out the NB heatsink as soon as you get the board. Will try out higher FSB with HR-05 installed

is this with a new retail mobo...Bulldog14 ..earlier said there were some issues with the HS flatness on early review boards...also some have huge amounts of thermal paste

Bulldog14 said the reatil boards should have a load temps in 40s if I recall his post correctly(now overclocked and increased volt is something else of course)

[bingo13]

Remove the heatsink and remove the padding around the perimeter. Your heatsink is not making correct contact with the chipset. This was a problem with some early boards. Also, they might have used too much paste. Contact DFI and get them to send you a new heatsink.

Guys, the NB really runs hot. If you have poor case cooling, NB temps gets up to 80C. I've tested on an open bench (28C room temp) with/without a 120mm case fan facing towards the mobo and here are my results based on the stock volt, stock NB heatsink&TIM:

With Case Fan:
Idle: 54ºC | Load: 57ºC

No Case Fan
Idle: 82ºC | Load: 84ºC

For an 80nm chip and at only 1.28V, I think RD600 outputs quite a lot of heat. The stock heatsink gets way too hot without case cooling and it stays hot for about 5-10 minutes even after shutdown. I had to wait a few minutes to remove the NB heatsink as it was too hot to touch. My max bootable with the stock NB heatsink was around 490FSB.

Currently testing with a Thermalright HR-05 and NB temps dropped by about 10ºC. I'm getting around 50ºC (w/case fan) and 74ºC (w/o case fan). I strongly suggest swapping out the NB heatsink as soon as you get the board. Will try out higher FSB with HR-05 installed

[eva2000]

I'm testing prime95 v25.1 2x thread load @9x400FSB = 3596mhz at 1.4v on ICFX3200 with 60x25m sunon 23.5cfm maglev fan on stock NB heatsink with pad removed and AS5 on NB chipset and NB temp is 47C in 31.1C room temp NB core volt = 1.47v in SG display. My ICFX3200 is early retail board sample.

[nealh]

I'm testing prime95 v25.1 2x thread load @9x400FSB = 3596mhz at 1.4v on ICFX3200 with 60x25m sunon 23.5cfm maglev fan on stock NB heatsink with pad removed and AS5 on NB chipset and NB temp is 47C in 31.1C room temp NB core volt = 1.47v in SG display. My ICFX3200 is early retail board sample.

eva200..I know its alot to ask but what are your bios setting to get 400fsb orthos stable....

I was just looking at your sig link..OMG the bios is overwhelming with options.....

did retake pics of the bios after new official 12/22 bios?

[Praxis1452]

w00t. Mine is packed. Probably shipping soon. Now only to get my damn PS.

[pcmoddingmy]

is this with a new retail mobo...Bulldog14 ..earlier said there were some issues with the HS flatness on early review boards...also some have huge amounts of thermal paste

Bulldog14 said the reatil boards should have a load temps in 40s if I recall his post correctly(now overclocked and increased volt is something else of course)

Yes, this was with the new retail mobo. Actually, almost all retail boards that I've seen have a lot of thermal paste on the NB. NB HS flatness could not be an issue.. looks flat to me.

To achieve load temps at 40C depends on room temp and case setup. Mine was 57C at 28C room temp, but this was with a 120mm fan blowing towards the mobo (from above the CPU socket). It only got over 80C when I had no fans whatsoever around the mobo. Note that the CPU was water cooled.

Gary, If the HS had poor contact with the NB, the HS wouldn't get that hot at all. In my experience, the HS got quite hot. This shows that there was "good" contact with the chipset. If it had poor contact, the HS wouldn't get warm at all. Anyways, swapping to HR-05 gave me 10C better in most cases but it did get around 70C when I turned off the case fan. This was mainly because the CPU was water cooled and the mobo had no airflow over it.

So, IMO the RD600 can get quite hot in a worst case scenario without no air flow over the mobo. Water cooled CPU must have better case cooling or a dedicated fan over the NB.

[nealh]

Yes, this was with the new retail mobo. Actually, almost all retail boards that I've seen have a lot of thermal paste on the NB. NB HS flatness could not be an issue.. looks flat to me.

To achieve load temps at 40C depends on room temp and case setup. Mine was 57C at 28C room temp, but this was with a 120mm fan blowing towards the mobo (from above the CPU socket). It only got over 80C when I had no fans whatsoever around the mobo. Note that the CPU was water cooled.

Gary, If the HS had poor contact with the NB, the HS wouldn't get that hot at all. In my experience, the HS got quite hot. This shows that there was "good" contact with the chipset. If it had poor contact, the HS wouldn't get warm at all. Anyways, swapping to HR-05 gave me 10C better in most cases but it did get around 70C when I turned off the case fan. This was mainly because the CPU was water cooled and the mobo had no airflow over it.

So, IMO the RD600 can get quite hot in a worst case scenario without no air flow over the mobo. Water cooled CPU must have better case cooling or a dedicated fan over the NB.

curious are you blowing air in over the radiator or sucking out

I have a P180 with PA160 in the front with air blowing in over the mobo...as well as a 120mm fan over PWMIC area on my DFL SLI DR..going to try and put a fan on the hS and see what happens when my board get hear this week

[pcmoddingmy]

curious are you blowing air in over the radiator or sucking out

I have a P180 with PA160 in the front with air blowing in over the mobo...as well as a 120mm fan over PWMIC area on my DFL SLI DR..going to try and put a fan on the hS and see what happens when my board get hear this week

In an open bench, does it matter? Besides, the rad is about two feet away from the CPU. Using Corsair Nautilus500 btw...
As I've posted earlier, I tested the NB temps in two scenarios; one with no airflow and another with airflow. Hope you guys understand...

Anyways, here's Thermalright HR-05 installed on RD600:





NB load temps with airflow was 47C, and 73C without airflow. Pictures with a standard 120mm case fan facing towards the CPU socket for airflow, which simulates a well cooled casing.

[RGone]

PCModding, did the retention clip to hold HR-05 on chipset you are using come with the HR-05 or did you have to make one? From pic I cannot tell.

RGone...

[OldGuy]

PCModding, did the retention clip to hold HR-05 on chipset you are using come with the HR-05 or did you have to make one? From pic I cannot tell.

RGone...

Wangerin reports the supplied clip was used on a thread at DFI Club...

[Devious]

PCModding, did the retention clip to hold HR-05 on chipset you are using come with the HR-05 or did you have to make one? From pic I cannot tell.

RGone...

It comes in the HR-05 package.



Has anyone had any luck running ram in sync mode ? Mine wont boot at all using sync mode.

[RGone]

Thanks OldGuy and Devious, I am not having any real chipset temp issues...but prepared is better than just plain puzzled. Since I am on water, I think will look for a 70mm fan for HR-05 when I got that route.

Again thanks.

RGone...

[RGone]

I have run Synch Mode on two or three different Ocz ram types. I usually Load Optimized and then set SynchMode so that other changes do not throw me off when running in that mode. RGone...

It comes in the HR-05 package.



Has anyone had any luck running ram in sync mode ? Mine wont boot at all using sync mode.

[screwtech02]

RGone, have you used the ATI cert stuff from OCZ?? I'm wondering how it works since its supposed to be "optimized" for the "crossfire" boards.....

[nealh]

Thanks OldGuy and Devious, I am not having any real chipset temp issues...but prepared is better than just plain puzzled. Since I am on water, I think will look for a 70mm fan for HR-05 when I got that route.

Again thanks.

RGone...

are you WCing NB too???

[mrt2]

For Arctic Silver 5 on my c2d cpu ...should I really just put a small line of it down the middle like the instructions say? Or should I smear it all over the top like I usually do for other compounds and other cpus...using a spatuala type of thing?

[pcmoddingmy]

PCModding, did the retention clip to hold HR-05 on chipset you are using come with the HR-05 or did you have to make one? From pic I cannot tell.

RGone...

The HR-05 fits perfectly, no mods required. The included clip works as it should...
Anyways, the HR-05 can run passive provided you have decent airflow over your mobo.

[XFxGeforced]

just ordered mine today, cant wait to see some vmods start popping up. gonna put dice on this baby eventually. I got this and my ballistix ddr2-1000, now i need a cheap e6600

[dnavarro]

Tony or anyone:

Have any luck making a disk clone (Norton Ghost) with RAID 0? I get into Ghost in DOS (SB600 RAID 0) and I can see the RAID but when I select it as the "source" to clone to another harddrive Ghost locks up. Never had this happen with Ghost in the past.

I want to make a clone before I start messing with all the tweaks
Any help is appreciated.

D

[eva2000]

Tony or anyone:

Have any luck making a disk clone (Norton Ghost) with RAID 0? I get into Ghost in DOS (SB600 RAID 0) and I can see the RAID but when I select it as the "source" to clone to another harddrive Ghost locks up. Never had this happen with Ghost in the past.

I want to make a clone before I start messing with all the tweaks
Any help is appreciated.

D

it's Ghost issue... similar with Acronis Trueimage doesn't recognise disks on ICFX3200 controller as yet.

[dnavarro]

it's Ghost issue... similar with Acronis Trueimage doesn't recognise disks on ICFX3200 controller as yet.

Thanks Eva Any workaround as of now so we can get an image of the3 RAID? Any programs that might work?

D

[eva2000]

I haven't tried it yet but make Trueimage boot media disk or Ghost boot disk and move your os hdd over to another rig and attach main os hdd and spare hdd to other rig and use cd to clone drive and move back over.

[dnavarro]

hmm good idea. Will give it a shot. Thanks

[GNU]

In an open bench, does it matter? Besides, the rad is about two feet away from the CPU. Using Corsair Nautilus500 btw...
As I've posted earlier, I tested the NB temps in two scenarios; one with no airflow and another with airflow. Hope you guys understand...

Anyways, here's Thermalright HR-05 installed on RD600:





NB load temps with airflow was 47C, and 73C without airflow. Pictures with a standard 120mm case fan facing towards the CPU socket for airflow, which simulates a well cooled casing.

Which CPU Socket Cooler is this? (With the green pipes )