PCP&C Silencer 750w, is there a better PSU for $200?

[Revv23]

This is pretty much the top of my PSU budget, ive wanted a PSU that i can consider my last PSU for a while now, and this looks like it might be it.

anyone have some input on it? Is there something better i can get for $200? I really want a quality brand like zippy or PCP&C...

However i hear this silencer is built by seasonic, does it lose the PCP&C quality by being such?

Thanks for the advice guys, hopefully this will be my last psu for a few years to come.

[Rubiconx3]

That is a beast of a PSU. With a 60a rail thats about the best in the price range

[J-Mag]

I've got one and it is excellent, much better than the 510w Turbo Cool SLI I had...

Only, I wish it had come with quad PEG connects, as I am sure that is the only thing holding it back from 8800GTX SLI cert.

Although as many people will tell you it isn't rated like their turbo cools. The 750w load # is from a 40C test and not 50C.

[Revv23]

Thanks guys.

J-mag, whats wrong with the PEG connectors? no 2x8? or are they just cheap?

One thing that irks me is that its not even fully sleeved. For $200 you think they could throw that in.

[Rubiconx3]

There is only 2 6-pin GPU connectors

[J-Mag]

There is only 2 6-pin GPU connectors

Yeah for board connectors it's got 2x 6pin, 1x 4pin, and 1x 8pin.

[Despotes]

The Silverstone Zeus 850 has dropped to $227. If you can pull that off it'd be worth it.

http://deadeyedata.com/index.php?mai...roducts_id=101

[Revv23]

The Silverstone Zeus 850 has dropped to $227. If you can pull that off it'd be worth it.

http://deadeyedata.com/index.php?mai...roducts_id=101

no i cannot pull that off...


silverstone scares me anyways, they havent been around long enough for a $200+ PSU IMO.

[o0Lo0P0o]

I like mt seasonic M12 700 watt unit, its not really a quad rail psu but it kicks ass so far. It comes with modular connections and 4x pci express connectors, also if you are not a fan of leds and stuff it has a plain black 120mm fan and a black 60mm fan. It should also save you a little cash. I think i got mine for like $180USD or so.

[Revv23]

i want a single rail psu.

[jonnyGURU]

silverstone scares me anyways, they havent been around long enough for a $200+ PSU IMO.

fascinating....

[Revv23]

fascinating....

Yeah i read up and retract my staement, they are good.

[quicksilverXP]

ST56ZF.. get that and save some money. Unless you want SLI for the newer graphics card... but even the 750w Silencer wouldn't be able to handle them (with a good CPU overclock).

[Rubiconx3]

the silencer is rated for GTS sli and it would be for GTX if it had 4 connectors. One strong 60a rail is much better then 4 smaller rails

[Revv23]

ST56ZF.. get that and save some money. Unless you want SLI for the newer graphics card... but even the 750w Silencer wouldn't be able to handle them (with a good CPU overclock).

waaa, i may be dumb but im no fool, 60a on 12v is more then enough for any system on the market.

Hell my gamexstream is too. But i am looking for other things in this PSU besides raw power, meaning stability.

[Istasi]

i want a single rail psu.

IIRC the M12 is actually single rail, the 'quad-rail' label is just for marketing. Ready jG's review for more info.

[Revv23]

IIRC the M12 is actually single rail, the 'quad-rail' label is just for marketing. Ready jG's review for more info.

Read jonny's review, its dual rail, which is nice, but im still looking for just one nice big one...

im looking more at the silverstones... they are great, but i dont know what it is, something is turning me off about them.

I'm lookin for zipply sales places, if i can get a zippy for around this price i might consider it.

[MrDeeds]

I've got one and the not being fully sleeved part irks me also, even worse is half of molexs are white while the others are black. It just isnt very cohesive.

Other than that minor peeve its the best psu i've ever owned and its leaps and bounds better than my Antec Neo He 550w. Also do yourself a favor and get the black one like i did.

[epion2985]

One strong 60a rail is much better then 4 smaller rails

Not exactly. Its a double edged sword like most things in life.

The benifit of a strong single rail is that everything you have is on it, and you wont have problems untill you max out the output of the psu, and you dont have to worry about pulling to much one one of your many smaller rails. The bad is you get dirty voltage and thats not good, especialy for the cpu stability. It has been shown that you can overclock higher with cleaner voltage. Also with a single rail psu if you pull more then rated everything on the rail will go down.

The benifit of multiple rails is cleaner voltage. Idealy you would have a seperate rail for each device, or atleast one for the more critical components like cpu/gpu. The only downside to a multi rail psu is that you have to watch and make sure you dont pull too much on a given rail which is somewhat easier then when you have your whole psu capacity on one rail. However atleast if you do max out a rail only the devices on that rail will go down.

Ideally you would have multiple strong rails

[Revv23]

Not exactly. Its a double edged sword like most things in life.

The benifit of a strong single rail is that everything you have is on it, and you wont have problems untill you max out the output of the psu, and you dont have to worry about pulling to much one one of your many smaller rails. The bad is you get dirty voltage and thats not good, especialy for the cpu stability. It has been shown that you can overclock higher with cleaner voltage. Also with a single rail psu if you pull more then rated everything on the rail will go down.

The benifit of multiple rails is cleaner voltage. Idealy you would have a seperate rail for each device, or atleast one for the more critical components like cpu/gpu. The only downside to a multi rail psu is that you have to watch and make sure you dont pull too much on a given rail which is somewhat easier then when you have your whole psu capacity on one rail. However atleast if you do max out a rail only the devices on that rail will go down.

Ideally you would have multiple strong rails

Well i guess what he meant is that one well built 12v rail is better then multiple smaller ones.

A single big well made 12v rail can give power just as clean yet you dont have to worry about overloading a rail. Just look at the PCP&C 1kw SR.

[Revv23]

I've got one and the not being fully sleeved part irks me also, even worse is half of molexs are white while the others are black. It just isnt very cohesive.

Other than that minor peeve its the best psu i've ever owned and its leaps and bounds better than my Antec Neo He 550w. Also do yourself a favor and get the black one like i did.

Hey MrDeeds, how did you get a black one, you just email them?

[epion2985]

A single big well made 12v rail can give power just as clean yet you dont have to worry about overloading a rail.

That's relative. Multiple rails do eliminate noise, and while my circuit and electical is weak for now, isolating devices shoild always be better then putting them together. How much better is another question and of coarse it is dependant on the psu's in question. How much better and how much that helps I am not qualified yet to answer but I am sure Oklahoma Wolf can

If you ask me I would like a 4 12v rail psu at 40amps per rail, with independant overload protection on each rail (unlike what some manufacturers have been doing) and multiple quiet fans. And I want it now, not in 5 years when a 40amp 12v rail is bearly enough to power one video card

[Revv23]

That's relative. Multiple rails do eliminate noise, and while my circuit and electical is weak for now, isolating devices shoild always be better then putting them together. How much better is another question and of coarse it is dependant on the psu's in question. How much better and how much that helps I am not qualified yet to answer but I am sure Oklahoma Wolf can

If you ask me I would like a 4 12v rail psu at 40amps per rail, with independant overload protection on each rail (unlike what some manufacturers have been doing) and multiple quiet fans. And I want it now, not in 5 years when a 40amp 12v rail is bearly enough to power one video card

I agree with that, and i agree with those dream specs

[epion2985]

Sad part is (sad because most of us cant afford it) you can call PC&C or the likes and order a custom unit. Something I always wondered is how much would something like what I described above would cost.

I bet Oklahoma Wolf knows.

The way I look at it, if its not that much more, like a few hundred dollars more, it would be worth getting one instead of getting a $300 psu now and another $300 psu when power demand goes up. Maybe we can work out a gorup buy. THis gives me an idea, I think I am going to give some people a call

[Helmore]

I don't think it's that easy but you can try.