What happen to the pics? There is a pic missing from your earlier post as well.Originally Posted by remorema
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What happen to the pics? There is a pic missing from your earlier post as well.Originally Posted by remorema
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Last edited by >trinity<; 09-08-2006 at 04:02 PM.
Asus P5B Deluxe Bios 0614 - X6800@3.8ghz 1.51v Dual prime stable
G.Skill DDR2 6400HZ 2GB
Albatron 7950GX2
OS-74GB Raptor - Storage 2x 150GB Raptors
Coolermaster Stacker - SILVERSTONE 850W
I just redid the post with a bit more information. I could barely test 458 with my Rev2s at 4-4-4-12, so I don't think 467 would be possible with the same timings. I could try 5-5-5-15 at 466, 467, and 468, I suppose, but at those speeds my CPU might cause troubles. Ah well, off to try anyway!Originally Posted by Tony
Last edited by aggybong; 09-08-2006 at 04:36 PM.
All you need is cas5, the dimms do a lot better cas5 than cas4, you may also want to test 5-4-3 instead of 4-4-4, less voltage and the same performance ot better from my tests.Originally Posted by aggybong
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Tuning PC's for speed...Run whats fast, not what you think is fast
What does Static Read Control do?
Not sure yet, hard to see what register its setting. Maybe someone else can chirp in with some answers.Originally Posted by aggybong
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So I am having trouble interpreting these results. Is the conclusion its better to stay closer to 400-450FSB and use the default multiplier than say 500X7, where 8 is the default multi?
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I'm not seeing any difference in the 466-469 range.
Memtest86 Results @ 5-5-5-15-5-42:
7x466: 4854
7x467: 4863
7x468: 4875
7x469: 4886
Sandra 2007 @ same timings:
7x466: 7539 / 7565
7x469: 7562 / 7563
I wanted to try 8x46*, but my CPU wouldn't have it at 1.45v, so I said forget it Do you have any advice on the TRRD, Write to Read Delay, Read to Precharge Delay, and Write to Precharge delay? At the moment I just leave them at 10, but that's probably not optimal.
I'm done testing for now, though! Thanks for the advice, Tony.
Last edited by aggybong; 09-08-2006 at 05:22 PM.
I just did 3 bandwidth tests with sandra 2007.
7879 = 400fsb bios
7889 = 403fsb from 400-403 used clockgen
7375 = 404fsb bios
Here are the tests.
http://www.trinity.hdc.net.au/1118.jpg
http://www.trinity.hdc.net.au/1119.jpg
http://www.trinity.hdc.net.au/1120.jpg
Asus P5B Deluxe Bios 0614 - X6800@3.8ghz 1.51v Dual prime stable
G.Skill DDR2 6400HZ 2GB
Albatron 7950GX2
OS-74GB Raptor - Storage 2x 150GB Raptors
Coolermaster Stacker - SILVERSTONE 850W
I think, this is another good way to show what Tony and FCG are talking about... To show that past 400MHz there is a "dip" in performance, I decided to complete few SuperPi 32M runs, a great bench that can uncover fluctuations in bandwidth and latency.
First, I booted at 400MHz and run 32M at three ratios - 533, 667 and 800. Then booted at 402MHz and did the same. At the end, to show that "dip" may be somewhat reversed (up to the point, unfortunately), I booted at 400Mhz and then once in Windows, raised clock to 402Mhz with ClockGen.
Interesting, eh? Unfortunately, raising clock past ~430Mhz using ClockGen, ends with a crashCode:Boot @ 400x9 Boot @ 402x9 Boot @ 400 & CLG to 402 DDR2-800 --> 14:10.969 DDR2-804 --> 14:42.922 DDR2-804 --> 14:06.672 DDR2-1000 --> 13:35.765 DDR2-1004 --> 14:07.297 DDR2-1004 --> 13:32.562 DDR2-1200 --> 13:17.109 DDR2-1206 --> 13:51.891 DDR2-1206 --> 13:13.109
EDIT: Oh, yeah... BTW, this is what happens when one compares 516x7 and 400x9, with keeping memory speed as close in both cases as possible:
Last edited by bachus_anonym; 09-08-2006 at 05:35 PM.
Holy cow that is drastic....very good info though, thanks BachusOriginally Posted by bachus_anonym
let's see other 965 tests with SPI
i have a feeling it's more drastic on P5B Deluxe but could be wrong.....just thinking about some SPI results i was getting DS3 vs P5BD hmmmmmmmmm
Go forth and find willing DS3\DQ6 users :P
You know, I find it odd that when comparing 7x458 and 8x400 using MBench, that the 7x458 configuration loses everything BUT "Write Datarate (SSE)", which it wins by over 1000 Mb/s. Isn't that rather large?
Last edited by aggybong; 09-08-2006 at 06:02 PM.
I have a DS3, will test next week to see what they are upto alsoOriginally Posted by dinos22
Remember asus=gigabyte now, so they may have the same tweaks
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Tuning PC's for speed...Run whats fast, not what you think is fast
does memtest86+ v1.65 work on 965p to show bandwidth ? as on my badaxe and p5wdh memtest reports my bandwidth anywhere between 28,000MB/s and 68,000MB/s LOLOriginally Posted by Tony
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you know with this whole asus=gigabyte thing i reckon the rivalry between these departments is probably even greater than before heheheh doubt they'll share all the info among eachother knowing how other big companies work (at least in australia hehehehe)
yeah it doesOriginally Posted by eva2000
I'm not even using Memtest86+, I'm using this: http://www.softwarecove.com/memtest/
bachus
Here is the test for you. Clockgen up to 427 from 400 fsb and run 32M pi, then boot in at 427 and run 32M pi.
I bet we see a 1min faster run using clockgen
Someone needs to do this under LN2, i bet with the right tweaks we could see 8sec 1M easy
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Tuning PC's for speed...Run whats fast, not what you think is fast
ok, I have came to a conclusion of my own... when you use clockgen or another "windows" program to change the clock, apparently you cheat the board in a way that it doesn't apply the next strap, so you keep the best of both worlds, a faster strap and an fsb/clock increase... that has lead me to another point: probably when rising the FSB with clockgen you will reach a crash/limit must earlier than by doing that using the bios... so, let's say, if you can reach 500mhz by setting it in the bios, you will only reach 430mhz when using clockgen, that's because of the faster strap used when rising from windows (clockgen)... someone with hardware could test that !! I don't have my C2D rig yet...Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
i don't know about thatOriginally Posted by Tony
you still need a CPU that can do 5.4Ghz
are you saying that 965 chipset prior to speedkink of >400+FSB would be faster than 975X motherboards
I have ran my own ghetto benchmarks. I have a E6400 Allendale CPU.
Sandra 2005 Memory Benchmark - My memory is 1:1
500X7@4-4-4-10 = 7278
7230
400X8@4-4-4-10 = 7303
7236
400X8@3-4-3-10 = 7387
7321
Last edited by ScottFern; 09-08-2006 at 06:27 PM.
Mobo ASUS P6X58D-E
CPU Intel i7 950
Memory 6GB Corsair Dominator Kit
Video Sapphire 5850
HD Intel X25-M 160GB
DVD-RW Samsung SH-203B
Monitor 2 x Dell 2209WA
Case Antec Nine Hundred
PSU Corsair HX620
that's exactly what it is.......it's self explanatory by the info providedOriginally Posted by fscussel
others have done this and they crash even earlier than 430
I'm on it and will be back in a fewOriginally Posted by Tony
UPDATE1: I was a bit too optimistic and dinos22 is spot on... I can't get my system to run 32M at 427MHz booted from 400MHz It shuts down the moment I start SPi calcualtion! I will try 415MHz and perhaps this will at least allow me go thru few passes...
UPDATE2: Unfortunately, 415Mhz was no-go either, therefore 410Mhz will have to do, Tony
That'd be 43s difference, enough to cry over
Last edited by bachus_anonym; 09-08-2006 at 07:59 PM.
This is fantastic. Thank you all for the results... I will contribute if I get a chance. Keep it coming.
| Intel 2500K @ 5GHz | Noctua NH-D14 | Asus P67 Sabertooth | Samsung 2x4GB DDR3 @ 2133 MHz | Crucial M4 256GB | Asus GTX 770 OC | OCZ Fatal1ty 750W | Qnix QX2710
History: AXP-2400M, AXP-2500M, Core2 E6600 - all minimum 50% overclock
this whole debate over what CPU to get it pointless.........24/7 people will hardly notice these changes
benchmarking is a different story and as things are atm good E6600 with 975X mobo for air/water is the best way to go.............or P5BD+E6600+phase for the budget conscious
that's one PITA about Intel..........you HAVE to buy the Extreme chips to compete..........AMD NF4 was not as motherboard limited as these..........remembers how easy it was for the Ultra-D/Expert to boot and benchmark at 420+MHz HTT >> too bad about the cold bug that's all
maybe future revisions of motherboards will be able to perform better we'll see
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