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    Exclamation E6700 + PC2-8000 Quick Advice..

    Needing some advice from the Bios and Hardware Masters here:

    Firstly.. here are my specs on where we are now:

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    CPU Used: Conroe E6700 Retail B2
    Motherboard: Asus P5W DH (1301 Bios)
    
    My Current Settings:
    AI Overclocking: Manual :D
    CPU Frequency: 350
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1050Mhz
    Preformance Mode: Auto
    PCI Express Frequency: Auto
    PCI Clock Synchonization Mode: Auto
    
    Memory Voltage: 2.20V
    CPU VCore Voltage: 1.5000V
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40V
    MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
    ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto
    
    RAM Used:
    OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum Extreme Edition Dual Channel 1000MHz DDR2 
    Recommended: CL 4-5-4-15 2.2 Volts (use a VDIMM of 2.25V ± 5%)
    
    My Current Settings:
    Dram Cas# Latency: 4
    Dram Ras# PreCharge: 5
    Dram Ras# to Cas# Delay: 4
    Dram Ras# Activate to Precharge: 15
    Dram Write Recovery Time: 4
    
    CPU temp @ 3.5Ghz (Idle 38c, Load: 41-42c)
    Cooler: Scythe Mine + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
    Motherboard temp @ 3.5Ghz (Idle 33c, Load ~35c)
    Power Supply: OCZ GamerXtreme 700W

    Now my question -

    With the above CPU and Memory.. Is there more room for both to improve? What should I be watching for above to push to 3.6Ghz (which is VERY high for a E6700)? How am I doing sofar with the above?

    FYI: With the above settings, I'm seeing errors in the 16M and 32M tests for the SuperPI tests as well as the Go-Orthos-Beta. I gather this is normal for my settings as I need to tweak them. Any thoughts everyone? Any areas I should be specifically tweaking to allievate errors?

    Thanks all.. comments and advice VERY WELCOME!

    TuD.

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    Anyone with some quick advice? Thanks all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thudo
    Anyone with some quick advice? Thanks all!
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    up the mch voltage.
    up the dimm voltage.
    hyperpath 3 - disabled.
    dram throttling - disabled.
    c1e, eist - disabled...

    just a few of them
    for a lot more, check out the p5w prob+fixes thread:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=110193

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    Update...

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    CPU Used: Conroe E6700 Retail B2
    Motherboard: Asus P5W DH (1301 Bios)
    
    My Current Settings:
    AI Overclocking: Manual
    CPU Frequency: 366
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-732Mhz
    Preformance Mode: Auto
    PCI Express Frequency: 100
    PCI Clock Synchonization Mode: 33.33Mhz
    
    Memory Voltage: 2.20V
    CPU VCore Voltage: 1.4875V
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50V
    MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
    ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto
    Hyper Path 3: Disabled
    Dram Throttling Threshold: Disabled
    
    RAM Used:
    OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum Extreme Edition Dual Channel 1000MHz DDR2 
    Recommended: CL 4-5-4-15 2.2 Volts (use a VDIMM of 2.25V ± 5%)
    
    My Current Settings:
    Configure Dram Timing by SPD: Enabled
    Dram Cas# Latency: -
    Dram Ras# to Cas# Delay: -
    Dram Ras# PreCharge: -
    Dram Ras# Activate to Precharge: -
    Dram Write Recovery Time: -
    
    CPU temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 35c, Load: 41-45c)
    Cooler: Scythe Mine + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
    Motherboard temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 33c, Load ~35c)
    Power Supply: OCZ GamerXtreme 700W
    Note my new changes.. I'm now running @ 3.66Ghz with SPD enabled and some voltage changes..

    Here's what works:

    SuperPi = All Tests complete fine
    Prime95 = All Tests (ie Torture Test) complete fine without errors (left for 1 hour)

    And what doesn't:
    Orthos Beta = Only Last CPU (Gromacs Core) test works perfectly.. any other test errors out in under 3 minutes.

    Anyone understand whats going on here? Seems bizzaro to me.

    Note: I am running WinXP + SP2 (all updates) but have dropped my Paging File down to 150mb (no need to have a large one anyway with 2gb ram). That shouldn't cause a prob with Orthos? Wouldn't think so.

    Btw, where is this c1e and eist?

    Any other synthetic tests or bios configs to consider? Just need to know if I should just be ignoring this "ghost in the machine" Thanks everyone!
    Last edited by thudo; 09-07-2006 at 09:37 PM.
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    Update - Ram PRIME95 for 12+ hours under same above specs.. No problems.. CPU Load Maxed @ 46c... Anyone else think Orthos is screwy? I do.
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    Orthos beta stresses both cores. You need to run two instances of Prime95 to stress both cores(make a copy of the Prime 95 folder and exe). That is why Orthos is not stable and Prime95 is. You should see your temps get much higer with Orthos beta than runing a single Prime95.
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    Then that sounds like I need to increase my Vcore to 1.500V+ and Vdimm to 2.30V+. Also, I have to consider how often dual-core will be used by my apps and games. Something to think about.. Btw, nice tight timings ya have!
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    Okie.. finalizing things..

    Code:
    CPU Used: Conroe E6700 Retail B2
    Motherboard: Asus P5W DH (1301 Bios)
    
    My Current Settings:
    AI Overclocking: Manual
    CPU Frequency: 366
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-915Mhz
    Preformance Mode: Auto
    PCI Express Frequency: 100
    PCI Clock Synchonization Mode: 33.33Mhz
    
    Memory Voltage: 2.25V
    CPU VCore Voltage: 1.5000V
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50V
    MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
    ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto
    
    RAM Used:
    OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum Extreme Edition Dual Channel 1000MHz DDR2 
    Recommended: CL 4-5-4-15 2.2 Volts (use a VDIMM of 2.25V ± 5%)
    
    My Current Settings:
    Configure Dram Timing by SPD: Disabled
    Dram Cas# Latency: 4
    Dram Ras# to Cas# Delay: 4
    Dram Ras# PreCharge: 4
    Dram Ras# Activate to Precharge: 12
    Dram Write Recovery Time: 4
    HyperPath 3: Disabled
    DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled
    
    CPU temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 35-36c, Load: 41-45c)
    Cooler: Scythe Mine + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
    Motherboard temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 33c, Load ~35c)
    Power Supply: OCZ GamerXtreme 700W
    Now with that it doesn't pass Orthos yet but everything else does. (Well.. have't run incidences of Prime95 yet). I code Advanced Skirmish AI for Dawn of War/Winter Assault and have max details @ 1600x1200 with 5 HARD AIs and never have probs (game does not use dual core) so I need to try something like Max8.

    Anyway.. I can get the computer stable @ 3.5 Ghz with 1:1 with the ram. I still want to have faster ram speeds but right now with the above its fast. Anyway.. coming to finally love the speeds. I could compromise with slightly slower ram speeds and make it true 1:1 @ 3.66Ghz then just tighten the mem timings even more. Comments?
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    Update: Think I have a winner..

    Code:
    o CPU Used: Conroe E6700 Retail B2
    o Motherboard: Asus P5W DH (1301 Bios)
    o Ram: OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum Extreme Edition Dual Channel 1000MHz DDR2 
    Recommended: CL 4-5-4-15 2.2 Volts (use a VDIMM of 2.25V ± 5%)
    o Power Supply: OCZ GamerXtreme 700W
    o Video Card: XFX 7600gt @ 620/830 
    
    CPU temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 35-36c, Load: 41-45c)
    Cooler: Scythe Mine + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
    Motherboard temp @ 3.66Ghz (Idle 33c, Load ~35c)
    Video temp: (Idle 41c, Load 47c)
    
    My Current Settings:
    AI Overclocking: Manual
    CPU Frequency: 366
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-915Mhz
    Preformance Mode: Auto
    PCI Express Frequency: 100
    PCI Clock Synchonization Mode: 33.33Mhz
    Memory Voltage: 2.30V
    CPU VCore Voltage: 1.5250V
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50V
    MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
    ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V
    
    MicroCode Updation: Enabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
    Execute Disable Function: Disabled
    Enhacned C1 Control: Disabled
    CPU Internal Thermal Control: Auto
    Virtualization Technology: Disabled
    Intet SpeedStep Tech: Disabled
    
    My Current Settings:
    Configure Dram Timing by SPD: Disabled
    Dram Cas# Latency: 4
    Dram Ras# to Cas# Delay: 4
    Dram Ras# PreCharge: 4
    Dram Ras# Activate to Precharge: 12
    Dram Write Recovery Time: 4
    DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
    HyperPath 3: Disabled
    DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled
    I run various tests with a game I am testing and normally the game would die during the 1st round OR during the 2nd. Now it never dies with the above while keeping my original specs I want. Orthos still dies after 2mins but other benchmark apps work fine.

    I might try increasing the Dram Write Recovery a little as a test to see what Orthos does. Not expecting much.
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