ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[ingenue007]

do you guys think it will ever be possible to have the multiplier unlocked above instead of just down?

[Cappie]

DO A SEARCH ON GOOGLE FOR "BOOTVIS" by microsoft. Run it. I get .8 blue bars during bootup afterwards. Before I had 5 bars.

Run the optimize option. It will reboot your system and optimize the bootup process.

Are you saying you are getting 0,8 times across, as in not even a full bar across??? I am assuming you mean 8 bars across? I gone and got myself a soundblaster audigy SE and damn, bye bye fuxored up sound, slow boots and welcome back hair follicles

If you'r reading this scr3w you ASUS and the buggy horse you rode in on, next time I am sticking with DFI!!!!!

[Psyire]

My problem is I need AC97 Frontpanel as I am using it. Will it not work if I change to HD Audio front panel??

My boot time is 15.25x on the blue bar.

[Pyr0]

mine's been on HDAudio since day 1, i've always wondered what made it so slow to boot, i might have to buy a cheapo audigy/audigy2 for now

i can't even use bootvis cos i have a 64bit os

[Brahmzy]

I just bought an new OEM Audigy SE from a guy for $16 shipped - that was my solution. Fast boot here I come! It sucks, but I don't have time and patience for ASUS to fix this (if they ever do.)

[HeadShotWI]

Are you saying you are getting 0,8 times across, as in not even a full bar across??? I am assuming you mean 8 bars across? I gone and got myself a soundblaster audigy SE and damn, bye bye fuxored up sound, slow boots and welcome back hair follicles

If you'r reading this scr3w you ASUS and the buggy horse you rode in on, next time I am sticking with DFI!!!!!

yes the rig in my sig below only has less than a single swipe of the progress bar after running bootvis optimization by microsoft. That tool is a godsend. You read it correctly .8 NOT 8

Run bootvis and let me know if it helps!!! I'm kind of curious. Who knows it might optimize the loading of your sound software/drivers.

You guys that are having problems with windows loading time please run bootvis and let me know your results. It dropped me from 5 progress bars down to less than 1!

Bootvis LINK: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664

[Cappie]

My audigy and bootvis brought bars down to 4,5, lower I cannot go yet, but maybe its cuz my disk is slower, I have old generation raptor and you have the 150Gb one Still 15,5 or 4,5, major difference!

[HeadShotWI]

My audigy and bootvis brought bars down to 4,5, lower I cannot go yet, but maybe its cuz my disk is slower, I have old generation raptor and you have the 150Gb one Still 15,5 or 4,5, major difference!

I would consider 4.5 to be perfectly normal. Bootvis is the coolest thing I'm telling ya. glad to hear it fixed your bootup problem. I think this is a microsoft problem rather than an asus audio problem. Bootvis is microsoft's own utility for fixing there crappy boot configuration.

EDIT: oh i saw you also put in an audigy. I hope someone who is still using on board sound gives bootvis a try. I'm curious to see if that fixes it for them as well.

[bing]

Or choose Matrix Raid with small crazy fast Raid 0 volume and the rest of it with Raid 1, minimum 2 drives though.

On "fresh" installed XP and with "ALL" drivers installed including sound, 2 NICs, 1 Wifi, firewire enabled "AND" without above BIOS sound trick, with 2 7200.10 perp drives, I got "half" blue swipes, yes, not typo, not even single . swipe . PS: P5B-Dlx with crappy D805, not even C2D !

[HeadShotWI]

Or choose Matrix Raid with small crazy fast Raid 0 volume and the rest of it with Raid 1, minimum 2 drives though.

On "fresh" installed XP and with "ALL" drivers installed including sound, 2 NICs, 1 Wifi, firewire enabled "AND" without above BIOS sound trick, with 2 7200.10 perp drives, I got "half" blue swipes, yes, not typo, not even single . swipe . PS: P5B-Dlx with crappy D805, not even C2D !

damn and I thought my .8 progress swipe was hawt! nice job!

[ScottFern]

Are most people using the 0804 bios? I am having an issue trying to use 4 SATA hard drives, and I am using the 0614 bios. Thinking this may help the issue.

[c_fun]

DO A SEARCH ON GOOGLE FOR "BOOTVIS" by microsoft. Run it. I get .8 blue bars during bootup afterwards. Before I had 5 bars.

Run the optimize option. It will reboot your system and optimize the bootup process.

i did recomend using Bootvis, read my comments again u might have missed it.
Regarding doing a boot at 0.8 bars, from my experience it only happens on teh FIRST boot where BOOTVIS makes it's analysis.
the consequent boots are around 4.5-5.5 of crossing bluebars.
(if you have a consistent boots of 0.8 that ios really intresting.)

to Cappie,
any change from HD Audio to AC97 in the bios for the next boot will make it a fast boot
since at that point the audio driver ARE NOT loading, and you will see it once u are in windows u will be requierd to REINSTALL them. (that is why you got a quick boot one - becuase the drivers didnt load up)

to Headshotwi,
I have run bootvis, and always do affter i'm making any drivers / start up programs changes. the 8.5 blue bars result is AFTER bootvis did its work.

to Bing,
I had that once before as well with a fresh installation of my Nforce4 ulta (Abit Fatality board) how ever it doesnt last for long as after you install your few first programs it get to around 4-5 ones agian.


if others are able too boot at 4.5-5.5 bars with an external sound card, this means we should be able too, once the drivers are fixed.

From my understanding 4.5-5.5 crossing bluebars for boot time is VERY good an normal and i woul expect that eventually witht eh ASUS drivers.
NOTE : I did mention that now that i'm gettign 8.5 blue bars for ther first 4.5 bars there is HDD i/o activity i see the led flashing, for the rest of the blue bars that are going i see no HDD activity, this IS the indication of a PROBLEM. without it i was doing 4.5 and this "hang" of HDD doing nothing is a result of hte AUDIO driver.

[HeadShotWI]

i did recomend using Bootvis, read my comments again u might have missed it.
Regarding doing a boot at 0.8 bars, from my experience it only happens on teh FIRST boot where BOOTVIS makes it's analysis.
the consequent boots are around 4.5-5.5 of crossing bluebars.
(if you have a consistent boots of 0.8 that ios really intresting.)

to Cappie,
any change from HD Audio to AC97 in the bios for the next boot will make it a fast boot
since at that point the audio driver ARE NOT loading, and you will see it once u are in windows u will be requierd to REINSTALL them. (that is why you got a quick boot one - becuase the drivers didnt load up)

to Headshotwi,
I have run bootvis, and always do affter i'm making any drivers / start up programs changes. the 8.5 blue bars result is AFTER bootvis did its work.

if others are able too boot at 4.5-5.5 bars with an external sound card, this means we should be able too, once the drivers are fixed.

Yes I missed your comments on bootvis.

BTW I get consistant .8 progress bars on bootup not just the first one. It's pretty spiffy! I was quite astonished since I never heard of bootvis until recently.

[c_fun]

Yes I missed your comments on bootvis.

BTW I get consistant .8 progress bars on bootup not just the first one. It's pretty spiffy! I was quite astonished since I never heard of bootvis until recently.

All i can say is WOW and good for you , i hope this is after your system is loaded with your start up programs and functions as an operational system and not just as fresh install with no s/w on it.

[ssabripo]

I just searched BOOTVIS on microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...t/default.mspx

so, call me stupid, but I still dont see how it will make my boot time faster!

[Brahmzy]

Been using bootime since it first came out on all of my builds at least once a month (boot-time defrags tend to move things "back" sometimes.)

Anyway, this problem is way beyond bootvis's help.

I'll do a before and after stopwatch boot as soon as my soundcard gets here.

[Cappie]

C-fun on my DFI lanparty SLI-D I had 2,5 splash bars, and this for months on end, all software, drivers, updates and hotfixes installed, no matter if I defragmented my drive or not I had 2,5 splash bars(note that I used bootvis then too). So asus being stuck at 4,5 is just plain pathetic, maybe people see it as nitpicking but this comp is now supposed to be much faster and in terms of HDD performance I have gone backwards even though my HDD's, GPU and PSU have stayed exactly the same. So why on DFI so fast and on Asus so slow?

[HeadShotWI]

All i can say is WOW and good for you , i hope this is after your system is loaded with your start up programs and functions as an operational system and not just as fresh install with no s/w on it.

This is a fresh install of xp, fully patched, with office 2003, 4 games, utilities, acronis, benchmarking stuff, etc.... So yes this this is not a synthetic test. Its my everyday system. Some of you can knock bootvis and I know microsoft says the tool is not meant for end users to decrease boot time but i swear to god as my witness I read about it somewhere here and downloaded it and ran an optimization. It rebooted my machine once and it went through less than a single progress bar before launching in to windows. I have been using it for 5 days now and I have been shutting down my pc every night(to break in my AS5 with thermal cycles) and it still only takes less than one blue progress bar.

[HeadShotWI]

I just searched BOOTVIS on microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...t/default.mspx

so, call me stupid, but I still dont see how it will make my boot time faster!

Ignore what microsoft wrote. Just download it. install, run an optimization and see the difference.

[HeadShotWI]

Been using bootime since it first came out on all of my builds at least once a month (boot-time defrags tend to move things "back" sometimes.)

Anyway, this problem is way beyond bootvis's help.

I'll do a before and after stopwatch boot as soon as my soundcard gets here.

I truly hope that Asus releases better sound drivers because this mobo is definately capable of extremely fast booting(although I have onboard sound disabled as well as 1394).

I have only had this board about 7 days now but it is 10000000% better than a ds3.

[Krowbar]

Has anyone found a workaround for the pci-e 1x problem? I find that anything over 379 FSB causes it to boot with pci-e set to 1x. Once this happens I have to power down at the psu and clock it down to 379 to go back to 16x.

I tried booting at FSB 370 and then using clockgen to raise it to FSB 420 but it still gets stuck in 1x mode if I use clockgen on startup.

Its very noticeable in 3DMark2001, at 379 FSB I get a score of 48-49K. At 380 FSB it drops to 35K.

[Psyire]

So...

15.25x blue bar while booting with Audio

Disabled HD Audio for kicks in the BIOS...

2.5x blue bar while booting.

Are there any problems with using an Audigy?

[sluzbenik]

To folks with Corsair Twinx 6400 C5...

This is Corsair's reply:
Original Message »
Currently there are issues with the P5B motherboard and manual settings with CAS 5. Asus is in the process of a BIOS that will resolve this issue.

Well, they could at least give us some good manual settings, crimeney!

Oh and Bootvis optimization had not effect on my boot I can see, aside from the fact that all my startup stuff (ATI Tray Tools, DAemon Tools, Skype) popped up faster I think. Can't do anything about that 20 sec sound driver load.

[Ace-a-Rue]

does the Corsair 8500C5 have problems????

[Cappie]

I'm using an audigy now but can't comment yet, haven't tested enough to make a full statement, tomorrow or the day after I will put back my clean ghost(one that hasn't got any audio drivers or soundcard installed), then I will install audigy again and test again. Cuz my tests now are inconclusive with my windows being polluted with this asus crappy software.