do you guys think it will ever be possible to have the multiplier unlocked above instead of just down?
do you guys think it will ever be possible to have the multiplier unlocked above instead of just down?
Are you saying you are getting 0,8 times across, as in not even a full bar across??? I am assuming you mean 8 bars across? I gone and got myself a soundblaster audigy SE and damn, bye bye fuxored up sound, slow boots and welcome back hair folliclesOriginally Posted by HeadShotWI
If you'r reading this scr3w you ASUS and the buggy horse you rode in on, next time I am sticking with DFI!!!!!
My problem is I need AC97 Frontpanel as I am using it. Will it not work if I change to HD Audio front panel??
My boot time is 15.25x on the blue bar.
Asus P5B-D, Q6700 @ 3.41Ghz (Air)
OCZ Reaper PC8500 2GB @ 1020Mhz CAS5
Enermax Liberty 500w PS
3x Seagate 320GB in RAID 5 Array
Sapphire ATI HD4850 Dual Slot
mine's been on HDAudio since day 1, i've always wondered what made it so slow to boot, i might have to buy a cheapo audigy/audigy2 for now
i can't even use bootvis cos i have a 64bit os
i950 (3035B684)
Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R
3x4GB G.Skill PC3-12800 7-8-7-24
HIS Radeon HD 6970 2GB & Dell 3007WFP-HC
Asus Xonar DX
128GB C300, Velociraptor & Sammy F3's
Corsair AX850W
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
I just bought an new OEM Audigy SE from a guy for $16 shipped - that was my solution. Fast boot here I come! It sucks, but I don't have time and patience for ASUS to fix this (if they ever do.)
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Originally Posted by Cappie
yes the rig in my sig below only has less than a single swipe of the progress bar after running bootvis optimization by microsoft. That tool is a godsend. You read it correctly .8 NOT 8
Run bootvis and let me know if it helps!!! I'm kind of curious. Who knows it might optimize the loading of your sound software/drivers.
You guys that are having problems with windows loading time please run bootvis and let me know your results. It dropped me from 5 progress bars down to less than 1!
Bootvis LINK: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664
Last edited by HeadShotWI; 11-06-2006 at 08:39 AM.
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My audigy and bootvis brought bars down to 4,5, lower I cannot go yet, but maybe its cuz my disk is slower, I have old generation raptor and you have the 150Gb one Still 15,5 or 4,5, major difference!
I would consider 4.5 to be perfectly normal. Bootvis is the coolest thing I'm telling ya. glad to hear it fixed your bootup problem. I think this is a microsoft problem rather than an asus audio problem. Bootvis is microsoft's own utility for fixing there crappy boot configuration.Originally Posted by Cappie
EDIT: oh i saw you also put in an audigy. I hope someone who is still using on board sound gives bootvis a try. I'm curious to see if that fixes it for them as well.
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8800GTS(G92) 512MB
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Or choose Matrix Raid with small crazy fast Raid 0 volume and the rest of it with Raid 1, minimum 2 drives though.
On "fresh" installed XP and with "ALL" drivers installed including sound, 2 NICs, 1 Wifi, firewire enabled "AND" without above BIOS sound trick, with 2 7200.10 perp drives, I got "half" blue swipes, yes, not typo, not even single . swipe . PS: P5B-Dlx with crappy D805, not even C2D !
Originally Posted by bing
damn and I thought my .8 progress swipe was hawt! nice job!
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8800GTS(G92) 512MB
700Watt Thermaltake Modular PSU
Are most people using the 0804 bios? I am having an issue trying to use 4 SATA hard drives, and I am using the 0614 bios. Thinking this may help the issue.
Mobo ASUS P6X58D-E
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i did recomend using Bootvis, read my comments again u might have missed it.Originally Posted by HeadShotWI
Regarding doing a boot at 0.8 bars, from my experience it only happens on teh FIRST boot where BOOTVIS makes it's analysis.
the consequent boots are around 4.5-5.5 of crossing bluebars.
(if you have a consistent boots of 0.8 that ios really intresting.)
to Cappie,
any change from HD Audio to AC97 in the bios for the next boot will make it a fast boot
since at that point the audio driver ARE NOT loading, and you will see it once u are in windows u will be requierd to REINSTALL them. (that is why you got a quick boot one - becuase the drivers didnt load up)
to Headshotwi,
I have run bootvis, and always do affter i'm making any drivers / start up programs changes. the 8.5 blue bars result is AFTER bootvis did its work.
to Bing,
I had that once before as well with a fresh installation of my Nforce4 ulta (Abit Fatality board) how ever it doesnt last for long as after you install your few first programs it get to around 4-5 ones agian.
if others are able too boot at 4.5-5.5 bars with an external sound card, this means we should be able too, once the drivers are fixed.
From my understanding 4.5-5.5 crossing bluebars for boot time is VERY good an normal and i woul expect that eventually witht eh ASUS drivers.
NOTE : I did mention that now that i'm gettign 8.5 blue bars for ther first 4.5 bars there is HDD i/o activity i see the led flashing, for the rest of the blue bars that are going i see no HDD activity, this IS the indication of a PROBLEM. without it i was doing 4.5 and this "hang" of HDD doing nothing is a result of hte AUDIO driver.
Last edited by c_fun; 11-06-2006 at 01:23 PM.
M.B : Asus P5B Deluxe (Bios 0804)
CPU : E6600 runing at stock + stock fan
Memory : 2GB - Corsair Twin2x2048-6400 (5-5-5-12 - 5-42-3-11-5-14)
HDD: Seagate 250GB 16 MB SataII
GC : Gigabyte GF6600GT
Mouse + Keyboard : Logitech Dinovo Media Desktop
Originally Posted by c_fun
Yes I missed your comments on bootvis.
BTW I get consistant .8 progress bars on bootup not just the first one. It's pretty spiffy! I was quite astonished since I never heard of bootvis until recently.
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8800GTS(G92) 512MB
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All i can say is WOW and good for you , i hope this is after your system is loaded with your start up programs and functions as an operational system and not just as fresh install with no s/w on it.Originally Posted by HeadShotWI
M.B : Asus P5B Deluxe (Bios 0804)
CPU : E6600 runing at stock + stock fan
Memory : 2GB - Corsair Twin2x2048-6400 (5-5-5-12 - 5-42-3-11-5-14)
HDD: Seagate 250GB 16 MB SataII
GC : Gigabyte GF6600GT
Mouse + Keyboard : Logitech Dinovo Media Desktop
I just searched BOOTVIS on microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...t/default.mspx
so, call me stupid, but I still dont see how it will make my boot time faster!
Intel e8400 @ 4.21Ghz 24/7 (467fsb@1.29Vcore)
Asus P5Q-E mobo, 1406 BIOS
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 DDR2-800 @ 5-5-5-18 1:1
Sapphire Radeon X1900XT @ 690/792 3D
2 x 320Gb WD SATA for apps/data
1 x 320Gb WD SATA for backup
Scythe Infinity Heatsink
700W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU
Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD
Been using bootime since it first came out on all of my builds at least once a month (boot-time defrags tend to move things "back" sometimes.)
Anyway, this problem is way beyond bootvis's help.
I'll do a before and after stopwatch boot as soon as my soundcard gets here.
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C-fun on my DFI lanparty SLI-D I had 2,5 splash bars, and this for months on end, all software, drivers, updates and hotfixes installed, no matter if I defragmented my drive or not I had 2,5 splash bars(note that I used bootvis then too). So asus being stuck at 4,5 is just plain pathetic, maybe people see it as nitpicking but this comp is now supposed to be much faster and in terms of HDD performance I have gone backwards even though my HDD's, GPU and PSU have stayed exactly the same. So why on DFI so fast and on Asus so slow?
This is a fresh install of xp, fully patched, with office 2003, 4 games, utilities, acronis, benchmarking stuff, etc.... So yes this this is not a synthetic test. Its my everyday system. Some of you can knock bootvis and I know microsoft says the tool is not meant for end users to decrease boot time but i swear to god as my witness I read about it somewhere here and downloaded it and ran an optimization. It rebooted my machine once and it went through less than a single progress bar before launching in to windows. I have been using it for 5 days now and I have been shutting down my pc every night(to break in my AS5 with thermal cycles) and it still only takes less than one blue progress bar.Originally Posted by c_fun
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Originally Posted by ssabripo
Ignore what microsoft wrote. Just download it. install, run an optimization and see the difference.
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Originally Posted by Brahmzy
I truly hope that Asus releases better sound drivers because this mobo is definately capable of extremely fast booting(although I have onboard sound disabled as well as 1394).
I have only had this board about 7 days now but it is 10000000% better than a ds3.
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8800GTS(G92) 512MB
700Watt Thermaltake Modular PSU
Has anyone found a workaround for the pci-e 1x problem? I find that anything over 379 FSB causes it to boot with pci-e set to 1x. Once this happens I have to power down at the psu and clock it down to 379 to go back to 16x.
I tried booting at FSB 370 and then using clockgen to raise it to FSB 420 but it still gets stuck in 1x mode if I use clockgen on startup.
Its very noticeable in 3DMark2001, at 379 FSB I get a score of 48-49K. At 380 FSB it drops to 35K.
So...
15.25x blue bar while booting with Audio
Disabled HD Audio for kicks in the BIOS...
2.5x blue bar while booting.
Are there any problems with using an Audigy?
Asus P5B-D, Q6700 @ 3.41Ghz (Air)
OCZ Reaper PC8500 2GB @ 1020Mhz CAS5
Enermax Liberty 500w PS
3x Seagate 320GB in RAID 5 Array
Sapphire ATI HD4850 Dual Slot
To folks with Corsair Twinx 6400 C5...
This is Corsair's reply:
Original Message »
Currently there are issues with the P5B motherboard and manual settings with CAS 5. Asus is in the process of a BIOS that will resolve this issue.
Well, they could at least give us some good manual settings, crimeney!
Oh and Bootvis optimization had not effect on my boot I can see, aside from the fact that all my startup stuff (ATI Tray Tools, DAemon Tools, Skype) popped up faster I think. Can't do anything about that 20 sec sound driver load.
does the Corsair 8500C5 have problems????
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I'm using an audigy now but can't comment yet, haven't tested enough to make a full statement, tomorrow or the day after I will put back my clean ghost(one that hasn't got any audio drivers or soundcard installed), then I will install audigy again and test again. Cuz my tests now are inconclusive with my windows being polluted with this asus crappy software.
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