ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[Blackoberst]

ASUS says that it should improve temperature monitoring.

[Tcmjr]

Okay, guys I need help.

Bios at startup shows (dual channel interleaved), and cpu-z show as Dual Channel.

Both memories are at the yellow slots. Both are Kingston 1gb - ddr 533.
[edit] Tried both at the black slots and same results.
They are not from the same manufacture week and the memory chips have different memory chips, could this be a problem ?

Both shows the same timings for latency 4-4-4-12.

Here are the Righmark scores I found at the neeoseker review of our board on the left(ddr-800) and mine on the right(ddr-533), added single channel results.
Is this the supposed higher benefit of dual channel, should it be more ? less ? Or I was just expecting something more than reality ?

Real Read
(avg) 7057 - 4090 - 3300
(max) 7868 - 4654 - 3490

Real Write
(avg) 3074 - 1765 - 1070
(max) 4801 - 4157 - 3540

Bandwidht
(avg) 5261 - 2770 - 1990
(max) 6022 - 3033 - 2153

They clearly got double the result ... DDR-533 max bandwidth with dual channel should be around 8.4gb/s and I'm seeing only around single channel results.

[flopper]

well solved my issues finnaly, I had a flawed motherboard its goin to a rma.

[Ace-a-Rue]

i don't think your Tuniq 120 Tower is mounted correctly because you should have lower idle temp than 50C unless you are very high on the vcore with a realtively high overclock.

Can't get my CPU lower than 50C idle for some reason... I bought a new board because some other issues and added EXTRA AS5 this time on the chip but no matter what I do, it still stays between 47 to 50C at idle... what could I be doing wrong? Maybe I'm mounting it wrong or something else? There is an issue with the square piece of foam around the backplate of my cooler (Tuniq Tower)
Since it had adhesive on it and stuck to my original board....but I don't really think that piece is THAT important...I got the backplate on just fine and screwed the HSF in as tight as I could without cutting my fingers too much LOL... why in the heck do they make that heatsink so freaking sharp...? LOL
ANYHOW this has actually made me want to try other types of cooling other than air...but I'd rather stick with what I bought than spending more cash...
Suggestions?
OH YEAH this HSF is REALLY hard to get on so in installing it, it does slide around a bit...could that have slid some AS5 onto the side of the IHS possibly or something or what? Any help would be appreciated.

[Angelico_Payne]

Blackoberst, thanks for info regarding the PECI
P.S. Is that u under the gas mask?

In my experiance, dual channel benefits should go up to 30%. But never used an in intel based board before for testing. It should increase your mem bandwith.

LittleDevil Everyone use the last one (0910 current)

I heard 0910 is buggy, thats why it isnt official yet. So what are the benefits of using 0910 in comparison to 0804?


Anyway, one of the members said that loading both Intel and Jmicron AHCI or RIAD drivers during windows setup by F6 method can prevent jmicron controller issue. By using his explanation I've put together a F6 boot disc package for both controllers using latest Jmicron and Intel drivers.

U can download it here.

[Stx]

Can't get my CPU lower than 50C idle for some reason... I bought a new board because some other issues and added EXTRA AS5 this time on the chip but no matter what I do, it still stays between 47 to 50C at idle... what could I be doing wrong? Maybe I'm mounting it wrong or something else? There is an issue with the square piece of foam around the backplate of my cooler (Tuniq Tower)
Since it had adhesive on it and stuck to my original board....but I don't really think that piece is THAT important...I got the backplate on just fine and screwed the HSF in as tight as I could without cutting my fingers too much LOL... why in the heck do they make that heatsink so freaking sharp...? LOL
ANYHOW this has actually made me want to try other types of cooling other than air...but I'd rather stick with what I bought than spending more cash...
Suggestions?
OH YEAH this HSF is REALLY hard to get on so in installing it, it does slide around a bit...could that have slid some AS5 onto the side of the IHS possibly or something or what? Any help would be appreciated.

which vcore are you using? it might be on auto

[Stx]

Blackoberst, thanks for info regarding the PECI
P.S. Is that u under the gas mask?

In my experiance, dual channel benefits should go up to 30%. But never used an in intel based board before for testing. It should increase your mem bandwith.



I heard 0910 is buggy, thats why it isnt official yet. So what are the benefits of using 0910 in comparison to 0804?


Anyway, one of the members said that loading both Intel and Jmicron AHCI or RIAD drivers during windows setup by F6 method can prevent jmicron controller issue. By using his explanation I've put together a F6 boot disc package for both controllers using latest Jmicron and Intel drivers.

U can download it here.

whats the exact jmicron controller issue?

[Blackoberst]

Angelico Payne, 0910 is beta and I don't know what changes brings. The only thing I noticed is the PECI issue.

edit

I still don't know why I can't use Clockgen to raise my FSB to remain on 1066 strap. Any sugestions? I've made the necessary settings in BIOS for the desired frequency, but computer freezes after I click apply.

[gmcinema]

So what does PECI do afterall ?

Platform Environment Control Interface, abbreviated as PECI, is a recent (introduced in 2006) technology used for thermal management in the Intel Core 2 Duo processors. The main difference between PECI and the previously used thermal sensors is that PECI reports the negative value expressing the difference between the current temperature and the thermal throttle point (at which the CPU shuts down itself to prevent damage from overheating) instead of the absolute temperature as usual. So, for example, for a typical CPU with maximal temperature of 85°C and the current temperature of 35°C, the value reported by PECI would be -50°C.

Another difference compared to classical thermal diodes is that PECI uses digital thermal sensors (DTS)

[Alexandrus]

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

[Stx]

so should PECI be disabled or enabled? - because it should be disabled according to the OCing guide by FCG

[Blackoberst]

PECI doesn't affect OC. It might affect temperatures reported by TAT, CoreTemp or Probe. Depends on witch bios you're using. Try both, enabled or disabled and check temps.

[gmcinema]

so should PECI be disabled or enabled? - because it should be disabled according to the OCing guide by FCG

PECI has nothing to do with OC and should be enabled for all Dual/Quadcore CPU's since it provides more accurate on-die temperature readings than the diode (which is still in place on these CPU's for backwards compatibility) temperature sensing method. The BIOS needs to fully support this feature since it is driving the CPU-Fan in variable rpm mode! Other sofware needs to be aware of the different temperature readings in 30h when PECI is enabled.

[xgman]

thanks for the PECI info. I had no idea what it stood for.

[Angelico_Payne]

I was talking about optical devices being seen as SCSI, and performance downgrade.


Thanks for PECI info.

OK i got 2 probs.

1. Breef frezees while working.. e.g. unpacking a 30 mb file, stops in middle of unpack and continues after 6 seconds, accessing disc data,...
All happened after i installed drivers.

2.Which drivers to install to enable AHCI?



3. I'll think of something later.. its 1 AM here now, so kind of tired now

Oh yes, how can I set USB so it can been seen as floppy in Eazy flash and Windows setup (i tried forceing emulation)?

[mrt2]

Where can I download the 0910 bios?

[Blackoberst]

Hmm.. Mine is 82801HR/HH/HO SATA AHCI Controller.

Try updating from your ASUS P5B CD. I think the driver is located in \Drivers\Chipset\Intel\Inf\XP...

I have done the change from IDE to AHCI in a different way. It was on ASUS forum, but I couldn't find the link anymore.
As far as I can remeber, I've unistalled everything under IDE/ATA/ATAPI.
Note: if you have an optical unit on IDE, don' uninstall that.
After that I restarted, manualy installed the new controller from the location on CD, another restart, selected AHCI in BIOS, boot to Windows and installed Intel Matrix Storage Manager. And another restart, and it was working.

Hope I've remembered well.

[idiotekniQues]

those timings messed me up for a couple hours till i figured it out via google.

i took a chip from my p5n-e sli that i am rma'ing (board only) and threw it in my new p5b-deluxe. everything installed great but the moment i tried to oc it wouldnt post. the moment i put defaults on it would start xp.

finally i figured out it was the last 4 timings that were at 10-10-10-10 were screwing everything up. find out the right values for those timings and i bet a lot of peoples problems would be solved.

[T07N]

What should be the last four values? the 10-10-10-10? I'm getting memory errors at certain speed too. I don't know what my last four settings should be.

[dinos22]

is this the 1x PCIe issue you guys are talking about



lol tells you how much i care about gaming hehe

i tried the suggested fix settings but it doesn't work....

[Angelico_Payne]

Where can I download the 0910 bios?

Here

Blackoberst, tnx for info, but that way can cause me not to boot in Windows again (get BSOD), if u do the same while windows setup, u get same BSOD on next restart.

I am puzzled, u got controller number 5!!

I will contact ASUS for explanation... beacuse drivers from ASUS are not the latest, so I use Intel's.

Can someone else using AHCI tell what is the name of Intel controller?

Also, these freezes are driving me ******* , have any of u set up maximum PCI latency?

EDIT : I see a lot of repeated Q&A around here, so i will make my guide into tread, so ppl can read it before asking question here , that have allready been answered.

[dinos22]

hmmmmmmmmm default settings

x16

[Tcmjr]

Here

Nice compilation, thanks !

[dinos22]

hmmm

pulled the third stick of RAM from mobo, cleared cmos

went to bios set 266FSB, 100PCIe, 1.25vcore, 2.0vdimm, 1.55vNB, 1.6vSB

did the NB/SB x1 fix settings

windows x16


went to 333MHz FSB = x16PCIe
went to 366MHz FSB = x16PCIe
went to 399MHz FSB = x16PCIe
went to 439MHz FSB = x16PCIe

works now...heh

[Ancient1]

Angelico_Payne

I believe I read something about warning against moving to AHCI after OS installed. Could be in Asus Forum or even FAQ.

About the Advanced User Manual .. :
I solved 100% crackling Soundmax by disconnecting the PC_Speaker from the OB connector. Boot issues were soleved by 4580 drivers.