ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[MrDeeds]

11. All Intel CPU’s Conroe core have a FSB wall, that prevents from reaching higher FSB speed. Also they can sustain core voltage up to 1.7v. They automaticly shutdown at 85 °C. Best OC pieces are marked week 29, revisions B and C.

Nice guide, not to nitpick but i would leave out any cpu ocing speculation.

I've never heard of a 29C if you can tell me where you've seen any info on that i'd love to see it.

The B cpus all clock well and i so far have only seen them get better with newer weeks. But the way you state it makes it seem like a 31B somehow isnt that good compared to a 29B.

Like i said above it would probably be best to leave the portion out.

[Ace-a-Rue]

you come to a forum to get help and YOU chastise me for trying to help!...you ungrateful fool!

I've tried all of that and this same memory has booted up just fine on other boards that default to 1.8v on initial boot. I wish i had other memory to test but i dont and i dont think thats the issue. The same memory worked fine for 2 days and is still working fine right now in my aw9d-max.

I also dont have a pci video card to test with and dont think i should need one to get a board to run stock. My question was directed at those that have experienced the same issue with this board. Is there a fix or did you guys just rma?

[Stx]

how do you check NCQ is working?-lol the drive is fast, btw I have installed the drivers correctly from the xp install.

[Dazog]

is 910 still the latest beta?

and are we due for a final soon?

[Angelico_Payne]

Nice guide, not to nitpick but i would leave out any cpu ocing speculation.

I've never heard of a 29C if you can tell me where you've seen any info on that i'd love to see it.

The B cpus all clock well and i so far have only seen them get better with newer weeks. But the way you state it makes it seem like a 31B somehow isnt that good compared to a 29B.

Like i said above it would probably be best to leave the portion out.

It's a mistype, i wanted to say week 29, and revisions B anc C of earlier weeks (e.g. 27 28) ....

I don't know from experimenting and testing, i compiled that data from 3 different sources, but even they didn't mention 31B, so i guess i will remove that since its not essential for the guide.

Thanks for the info.

Regarding NCQ for SATA, this is where u enable it



Several users have reported that there is a bug with NCQ in Windows
XP, ranging from small freezeups to not being able to boot problems

So if u experiance these kind of problems u will have to disable it again.

Also read review of NCQ on Tom's Hardware : Can Command Queuing Turbo Charge SATA?

Esspecially on page six of this review where u can see comparison charts nonNCQ vs. NCQ enabled drives


Also I found a good hd bench software : Nodesoft DiskBench

The program is using the current filesystem to save a file. If it is fragmented, the performance will be degraded, as it is in real life.

So, to figure out how fast your computer is, you can copy a file from A to B and use a stop watch.

Or you could just as easy use this program.

All it does is:
1) copies a file from A to B, times the time it took, and deletes the file from B again.
- or -
2) The other way to benchmark is to choose Create File. This way it just creates a file (consisting of a repeated 128 byte string). So if you only have one harddisk, this is the optimal test for you.

[Angelico_Payne]

Questions :

1. Have someone actually tried to use 2x4 connectors for CPU power supply, and what are the advantages or disadvatages of using/not using it?

2. Few users have reported voltage spikes that destroyed their memory, so have anyone experienced voltages spikes while working normally or running orthos, on unmodded boards?

3. Where can drivers for Wifi be downloaded, since there is no link on official webpage?

4. I noticed that some users posted links to asus ftp server. How are u able to get listing of asus ftp server, since i get denied directory listing error?

[Alexandrus]

Dude, there is no C for any week, only A and B, and I've only seen an F.
NCQ is not activated like that, at least not on Intel based boards, that's an nforce you posted there, it's not even similar.
And to answer your questions :
1. Yes, I have. Didn't notice any difference.
2. No.
3. No idea, sorry.
4. It's easy actually, copy a download link from their FTP and delete the file name. Worked for me.

[JoeBar]

JoeBar

Intel's 4pin header is a headache for me too, unfortunately.

3pin, or in my case, 2 pin , can't be controlled with just plugging them in. My fan works at 100%.

In your case an easy solution would be to use the chasis headers. they all work in unision

Thanks. This option isn't viable to me cause i have other fan connected on chassis headers and want to run them 100%. Thanks anyway!

[Englihs]

Regarding NCQ for SATA, this is where u enable it

You couldn't be more wrong, its actually through Intel's drivers and is enabled automatically.

[flopper]

Some advice needed.
I got a 6600, have had it run at 3.2ghz since that have been the sweetspot for it.
I got some issues now that i dont know what is the cause of it.

I cant get it to boot other than at 9x319 or lower fsb.
I tried anything I know of to get a higher boot but to no avail.

My specs are,
p5b deluxe wifi.
2gb corsair 5.5.5.12 and I use auto in bios for a 5.6.6.18
6600 core2duo
raptor hd.
Hiper 580w replaced by a Cooltek 600w psu.
x1950xtx
watercooled.
vcore 1.55/1.6 tried different variations.

I flashed to bios 9.10 and it run fine also. tried to overklock a little with the new psu to see if could go a little higher.
Reflahsed back to 08.04.
No go.

The funny thing is, I cant boot it at 7x400 or 401 or similiar.
8x401 and such is a no go also.
Trying to find out what is the cause of this either it is the mobo who are acting up or it is the cpu.
My guess is with the mobo.
I tried to set manual memory timings which does not work at all. (never has with the mobo)
Auto seems to be the only one it boots with no matter what i try.

So, since i cant get a stable boot on any combinations at a higher fsb which I have had a long time before it seems for me to indicate the mobo.
I have had it boot at 8x400/401 but very rarely and it seems most luck and when I mananged to get such a boot, then restarting does not boot up.

so, what to do?

Tried clockgen and got a 3200mhz without any lock ups.

[Blackoberst]

What are your vFSB, vMCH voltages? You should raise them a bit when overclocking.

[flopper]

What are your vFSB, vMCH voltages? You should raise them a bit when overclocking.

I always used auto which have worked very well.

I tried to shift the voltages on fsb etc..with no luck.
using vmem at 2.05 have worked well also.

Using clockgen I get it up to 3.2ghz without an issue.

Anoyther thing that just happen, when saving into bios it does not reboot but left the biosscreen open.
had to manually reboot from bios.

[Blackoberst]

Maybe it helps:

In Bios CPU Function I have everything disabled but CPU TM, Execute Disable Bit and PECI. The last I think it's for getting more accurate temps.

On the other hand, anyone knows why I can't use CG to raise my FSB? Should I use small steps increase? Because otherwise I get blue screens.
I'm booting in 1066 strap, FSB 400, and I'm trying not to jump in 1333 strap. I read that over 400 you're in 1333 strap. What am I missing?

[Angelico_Payne]

You couldn't be more wrong, its actually through Intel's drivers and is enabled automatically.

Ups, sorry... i thought it was the same, and since I didnt yet assemble my rig, i used a pic from belgian system admin with nforce chipset.

But u should be able to enable/disable it trough devmgmt as well, yes?

[Alexandrus]

No, you can't disable or enable it, just from BIOS.

[Kumakichi]

I was benching my pc last nite to see if everything was working ok. My new case hasn't arrived yet so I thought it would be a good time to check everything else out. Unfortunately I can't get it to boot up. I double checked my connections. I have both 2x4 connectors installed. And I even tried it with just one. I reset the CMOS. It just doesn't want to post.

The LED does lite up and the fan on my vid card jiggles a little bit. I'm thinking that I might have to try a stick of 1.8v ram to reset the voltage in the bios to get my pc running. Does that sound right to all of you?

[mrt2]

So a few days ago I go to my pc only to find out that it had apparently rebooted and stuck

on the windows loading screen. Upon rebooting I get no post, no error beeps, no nothing...

Somehow I just figured it was the North Bridge or a mboard related issue (I have an inverted

motherboard/case and they have issues with heatpipes on most boards). I figured the

Norhbridge probably burned out or stopped. Even power cycling to clear the settings didn't

work... I even took out the battery and cleared the cmos data that way... No Avail. So I

figured it's definately the board. ANYHOW I got a new p5b-deluxe yesterday and replaced the

nbridge cooling with a thermalright HR-05 and the other chips with some ramsinks... my first

boot was just fine, just changed the date in bios and booted to windows. When I got into

windows since it was the same board windows acted like nothing changed. So I proceeded to

update my bios to the 0908 revision like I was using on my previous board. I reboot and now

back in the same boat... the new board won't POST and I haven't even touched the voltage

settings or anything. When I try to boot it does the whole double boot thing that usually

does when you change voltages etc... where it will start up for about a second..power back

down then fully start again. Now heres my dilemma... I could have possibly put my nbridge

cooler on wrong... and the nbridge burned out again possibly (even though I never touched

the stock settings)... Or maybe there is an issue with those particular bios (which doesn't

make sense because I was running that revision for like 3 weeks on the original board before

there were issues.)? Or maybe with this bios revision there is a hardware compatibility

issue? I'm stuck... I need my pc up and running and willing to buy a THIRD board, but I

can't keep going through this. So now I'm thinking which board to buy... ANOTHER p5b-deluxe,

an asus Striker, the new RD600 DFI board... Not sure what to make of this issue and also

what to buy next or how to fix the old board.... What do you guys think? I know there is

alot of information here and alot of questions... any troubleshooting tips or advice about

this board or the possible purchase of a new one would be GREATLY appreciate.

I need a stable board that I can get as close to 500FSB with 1:1 and good timings as

possible... I'm a gamer and this machine is my powerhouse machine so I need a board that's

made for performance, features, and to be pushed with the newest games...

[mrt2]

Also, someone suggested trying different ram just to get the board setup...
Whats a good cheap 1.8/1.9 volt rated ram stick I could buy?

[Kumakichi]

I ordered a $32 stick of patriot 1.8v DDR2 off Newegg this morning. But with shipping and express service it comes out close to $50. $50 for a stick of ram that has no purpose other than helping me my mobo to boot up. What an incredible waste of money but I have no alternatives that I can think of.

[mrt2]

So you really think that the issue is probably a RAM voltage issue, and that I didn't even need to order this other board? Is this a common problem with this board or with 965 chipsets all together or what?

[Ancient1]

Kumakichi
Hi. You can reprogram the SPD

[Kumakichi]

I believe that it could possibly be the ram voltage issue. I've read about this happening with 975 and 965 chipset boards. On forums like this one where people are avid overclockers a lot of these guys have extra parts sitting around so a ram swap for bootup is a minor thing. I think thats why you don't see much mention about "hey I had to swap in 1.8v ram to get my mobo to post" type of replies. I've been overclocking for around 15 yrs now but I'm not addicted to buying hardware. So my extra parts boxes dont have much in them and I certainly don't have DDR2 sticks sitting around.

Some bios' are fussier than others as well. From what I read 0711 is pretty good in that respect. I haven't read as much about 0806 or beta. Supposedly in 07xx and on versions one of the fixes addressed better support for ram. Perhaps that didn't mean from a voltage sense. I have read some posts where people concluded that by flashing to a newer bios it set there voltage back to default which could cause a problem if your ram won't post at 1.8v

I think you have 2 alternatives. Buy some 1.8v ram locally from a store that has a good return policy. This way you have a choice whether to keep the ram or not. Or mail order it from some place like Newegg. If it works its probably not a bad idea to keep the ram and use it as a boot up tool of sorts. Somewhere down the road it could come in handy.

[Alexandrus]

How can that be done ? Reprogramming the SPD I mean ?

[Kumakichi]

Kumakichi
Hi. You can reprogram the SPD

We could do this to our ram? I recall reading something about this but I forget what it was about.

[sluzbenik]

I thought the boot-vmem voltage problem had been fixed with BIOS releases by now...Well, I guess if your RAM isn't on the approved list, it couldhave problems. But there is also some high-end RAM on the list on the Asus site that needs more than 1.8v to boot.

Anyway I have regular Corsair 6400C5, and didn't have a problem. But that only needs 1.85-1.9v That one of the reasons I bought it (the others were price and the fact that I wasn't getting cooling that would let me go past 450FSB anyway)- even in August there were plenty of these types of stories and it seemed to be the accepted wisdom that the BIOS was not recognizing the required RAM voltage and thus booting with high-end sticks was nearly impossible.