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[Highland3r]

Anyway to choose the results shown on the HWbot sig?

[RichBa5tard]

Well, we've built a complex algorithm to make sure your most interesting results would show up, but you can choose them manually too, yes.

[Highland3r]

Well, we've built a complex algorithm to make sure your most interesting results would show up, but you can choose them manually too, yes.

How does one go about that?

Cheers mate

[RichBa5tard]

I'll save you from dumping the source code here, so I'll try to explain it in pseudo code.

first, calculate the 'weight' of a ranking (application). The more ppl participate in a ranking, the more 'points' a good rank will get you.

weight = max{ min{(participants in ranking / 1000), 0.5}, 2}

There's a range of 0.5 to 2, so unpopular benchmarks are still worth a little bit and very popular benchmarks will not give you an insame amount of points. eg. superpi 'points' will be multiplied by 2, but sisoft sandra by 0.5.

Then the actual algorithm for calculating points of your submitted result comes in. You can recieve points on 2 aspects: the global rank of your score, and the hardware rank of your score. The hardware rank is worth much less, but it's fun that you still recieve some points because you have the (second, third, fourth or fift) fastest videocard / processor in 3dmark/superpi/...

global ranking points

int points;
        switch (rank) {
        case 1:
            points = (int) (50 * weight);
            break;
        case 2:
            points = (int) (40 * weight);
            break;    
        case 3:
            points = (int) (35 * weight);
            break;    
        case 4:
            points = (int) (30 * weight);
            break;
        case 5:
            points = (int) (25 * weight);
            break;
        default:
            points = (int) (((-20/145f)*rank + (600f/29f))*weight);
            break;
        }

weight = the importance of a ranking. for exact value, look at calculation above.

hardware ranking points

float saturation = 100;
        int points;
        switch (hardware rank) {
        case 1:
            points = (int) (5f * Math.min( Math.max(((float)participants / saturation), 0.2f), 1f) * Math.max(weight, 1f));
            break;
        case 2:
            points = (int) (4f * Math.min( Math.max(((float)participants / saturation), 0.2f), 1f) * Math.max(weight, 1f));
            break;    
        case 3:
            points = (int) (3f * Math.min( Math.max(((float)participants / saturation), 0.2f), 1f) * Math.max(weight, 1f));
            break;    
        case 4:
            points = (int) (2f * Math.min( Math.max(((float)participants / saturation), 0.2f), 1f) * Math.max(weight, 1f));
            break;
        case 5:
            points = (int) (1f * Math.min( Math.max(((float)participants / saturation), 0.2f), 1f) * Math.max(weight, 1f));
            break;
        default:
            points = 0;
            break;
        }

The more ppl who have the same videocard/processor as you and submitted a result for the same ranking (application), the more your hardware rank is worth.

The total score of your submitted result is the sum of both global and hardware ranking points. The results shown in your pic will be your results with the highest points.

Keep in mind the algoritm isn't final yet. We're probably going to lower the global ranking points a bit, or increase the hw points. We're testrunning it at the moment, as points are only visible for the crew.

[Highland3r]

ahhh nice That'd explain why things changed the other day

How can you specify what you want to see?

[RichBa5tard]

When you create your avatar / signature, you have to choose between "automatic" and "selected results"

[mtzki]

I'll save you from dumping the source code here, so I'll try to explain it in pseudo code.

Now did you really?

global ranking points

int points;
        switch (rank) {
        case 1:
            points = (int) (50 * weight);
            break;
        case 2:
            points = (int) (40 * weight);
            break;    
        case 3:
            points = (int) (35 * weight);
            break;    
        case 4:
            points = (int) (30 * weight);
            break;
        case 5:
            points = (int) (25 * weight);
            break;
        default:
            points = (int) (((-20/145f)*rank + (600f/29f))*weight);
            break;
        }

Forgetting the weight and rounding, first place gives fifty points, second 40,..., 25 points for fifth place, and from sixth to 150th place points go down linearly (with a formula that would give 20 points at fifth place and 0 at 150).

Keep in mind the algoritm isn't final yet. We're probably going to lower the global ranking points a bit, or increase the hw points. We're testrunning it at the moment, as points are only visible for the crew.

The definitions given by rb aren't even the current ones. We will post the final specs somewhere when we are done with the testing.

[mtzki]

Well, we've built a complex algorithm to make sure your most interesting results would show up, but you can choose them manually too, yes.

Any chance of putting this to work too?

[Highland3r]

When you create your avatar / signature, you have to choose between "automatic" and "selected results"

Am I being dumb - where is the option to do this, or is this still a WIP feature?

Cheers

[RichBa5tard]

It's not made public yet, only available for crew. Sorry.

[Highland3r]

It's not made public yet, only available for crew. Sorry.

Ah no worries mate Looking forward to the feature when its out

[wittekakker]

I have a quetion here, might be simple to fix. When I search for 3d mark results, could there be an option to watch non SLI scores only? I know where the other top scores of my card are around, but would be a lot easier for me (and for others I guess) if we could just search non sli/crossfire scores.

[RichBa5tard]

Okay, i've added it to the todo list, i'll let you know when it has been added.

[RichBa5tard]

I have a quetion here, might be simple to fix. When I search for 3d mark results, could there be an option to watch non SLI scores only? I know where the other top scores of my card are around, but would be a lot easier for me (and for others I guess) if we could just search non sli/crossfire scores.

Your request has been implemented in the development version, I'll try to upload it tonight.

[RichBa5tard]

wittekakker, your request has been implemented!

http://www.hwbot.org/searchResults.do

[mtzki]

rb does not have to much spare time from work atm, so some of the promised updates (overall competition, sig pics, hwbot multipi) will have to wait a little, prolly not very long tho.

We got some bug fixes yesterday:

- uploading images, some mimetypes are not excepted
- user personal results page, display the best (first sort on score, than start to filter for duplicates instead of other way around)
- display verification image at all time (currently only when verification url is entered too)

Also some of the stats views have been updated recently.

[massman]

We've reached the milestone of 15,000 results.

http://www.hwbot.org/newsLink.do?newsPostId=285257

At the end of this year, we should be at 20k at least :p

[wittekakker]

wittekakker, your request has been implemented!

http://www.hwbot.org/searchResults.do

Thank you RB!

PS: Works like a charme

[RichBa5tard]

No problem!

I added a features that generates bbcode or html so that you can copy&paste a thumbnail of your result easily into your forum or blog. : )

[mtzki]

The personal overall competition should be up and running in a few days. imo this is one of the coolest features of hwbot to date. No other site has anything like this, at least with a reasonable definition.

[jmke]

some of the new charts and features are just too cool

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=545030

[RichBa5tard]

hwbot v2.0 development topic

Early look on new hwbot layout:


polished hardware comparator. manufacturer colors for easy recognition:


polished submission pages:


memory, motherboard and cooling info added to submission pages:


hwbot engine v2.0 mascot:



I have a robot fetish

[wittekakker]

Nice teaser