Official XS Power Supply Ranking Phase I

[Bbq]

I wouldn't say they're terrible. They have decent regulation, high quality. It's just, there are many, many better options for the price. That chromed case, aviation style connector, light up fans, uv reactive sleeving, puts it into a higher price catagory while not quite up there where it counts, performance.

And it's really a 550w andyson inside the shell. not 580. No pfc either.

[Helmore]

Someone said that the Silverstone OP1000 is build by SevenTeam, does that mean that this Silverstone and this Seventeam basicaly are the same PSU. Although the Silverstone version has 'fused' rails and offers 10 more amps on the 5V line. Also, I'm wondering about the 8-pin PCI-E connector, which is present on the OP1000, I read over here that ATI's R600 will use this connector. Could this mean that within a year from now, many PSUs from now can become obsolete when buying higher end Graphics cards?
EDIT: This silverstone belongs to Tier 1 right? As this could mean it's a "Seventeam ST >600 (SSI, V2.91)".

[kuhla]

I would like to encourage the adding of Etasis brand gaming power supplies to the "Tier 1 Brands" since they are technically the same as the "Silverstone ZF (Etasis 85/75/56)" series. See links below:

main page - http://www.etasis.com.tw/

gaming power page - http://www.etasis.com.tw/cgi-bin/pro...earchdbdisplay

places/prices to buy them - http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...er&btnG=Search

An alternative to the rebadged Silverstone versions I guess.

[C Stat B]

Are FSP550-60PLN supposed to be any good? I was just given one was if anyone has any info I'd appreciate it. Had a quick search but couldn't find anything substantial.
Thanks

[Dan444]

RE: Enermax Galaxy

Have they fixed the issue that caused blowing motherboards?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Custra...82E16817194008

[slim142]

WHICH ONES TO BUY ??

Tier 1 can handle 4Ghz Conroe or 3Ghz AMD along with Oced Quad Crossfire/SLI With Ease.
Tier Z offers quality and power unequalled in its wattage range and is second only to other Zippy units.
Tier 2 offers almost as much power and stability as Tier 1 at Comparable Wattage levels with lower price/better availability.
Tier T offers the high quality components of Tier 2 with slightly less Rail stability due to Topower internals.
Tier 3 is ONLY Recommended if Price difference is present between Tier 3 and Tier 2 or due to availability issues with Tier 1/2 PSUs.
Tier 4 is recommended for stock or low power systems if Tier 3's are more expensive or are not available.
Tier 5 are NOT RECOMMENDED, but some brands have high/medium quality components in Tiers 2 through 4.

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Tier 1 Brands - The Most Powerful And Stable Components On The Market
Enermax Galaxy
PCP&C TurboCool
PCP&C Silencer >610
Zippy/Emacs SSL
Zippy/Emacs GSM
Zippy/Emacs PSL
Silverstone ZF (Etasis 85/75/56)
Seventeam ST >600 (SSI, V2.91)

Tier Z - Less Powerful Than Tier 1 Zippy Units...but they're still Zippys
Zippy/Emacs HG2
Zippy/Emacs HP2

Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1
Antec Neo HE
Akasa PowerGreen 80+
CoolMax CTG-750W/850W/1KW
Cooltek CT
Corsair HX
Enermax Liberty
Enhance ENP-GH
Fortron (FSP) GLN
iStarUSA PD2
iStarUSA PD3
OCZ GameXStream
OCZ EvoStream
PCP&C Silencer <610
Seasonic S12
Seasonic M12
Seasonic Energy Plus
SevenTeam ST <600
Silverstone EF
Supermicro/AbleCom
Thermaltake Toughpower >600W
Xclio GreatPower
Zalman ZM

Tier T - High Quality PSUs Made With Topower Internals - Less Rail Stability Compared To Tier 2 But Still Better than Tier 3
Mushkin Enhanced
Tagan U95
Tagan U25
Tagan U15
Tagan U22
OCZ PowerStream

Tier 3 Brands - High Quality and Stability, Second Only To Tier 2 Brands
Acbel Polycom
AMS Mercury
Akasa PaxPower
Akasa PowerPlus (>500W Models)
Antec Phantom
Antec TruePower III
Antec True Power II
Antec True Control II
Antec Neopower 480W (Old Model)
Antec Smart Power 2.0
Athena Power Space Shuttle Series
Channel Well
Enermax Maximum Plus
Enermax Noistaker II
Enermax Noisetaker
Enermax Whisper II
Enermax CoolerGiant
Enhance ENS-G
Fortron (FSP) GLC
Fortron (FSP) THN
Fortron AX
Fortron HLN
Fortron PFN/PN/PA
Seasonic Super Versatile
Silverstone F
Sparkle FSP
Spire Rocketeer V/VI
Sunbeam Nuuo
Thermaltake Purepower
Thermaltake Toughpower <600W

Tier 4 - Not Recommend With Tier 3 In same Price/Wattage Range
Aerocool
Asus Atlas
BFG
Coolermaster Real Power
Coolermaster iGreen
Delta
Enlight
E-Power
Futurepower
Hiper
HIPRO
Lite-On
Masscool
MGE XG
Mushkin HP
NorthQ 4775-500S/BU
OCZ Modstream
Scythe Kamariki
Sintek
Thermaltake TR2
TTGI/Superflower
Ultra Xfinity/X2

Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED
A-TOP Technology
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Cooler Master
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
EagleTech
FOXCONN
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Wintech
XClio
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics

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Phase III compensates for overcrowded Tier 1, while clumping together previously Tier 2 and 3 PSUs if only because no definite way to categorize then as good enough for Tier 2 or bad enough for Tier 3.

Perkam

So you are saying Ultra X-Finity series are not that much recommended? Why? So that means my Ultra X-Finity 2G 600Watts w/ AfterSpin Tech is like sucky compared to the top ones?

[Bbq]

The list needs updating. The Ultra- X-Finity units are good solid alternatives to the usual sea of antec's, enermax's.. etc. They work well, they're reasonably efficient, and they're usually on sale with a mail in rebate. More value for your money.

[slim142]

Exactly, thats why I bought it. I dont know about Ultra before but now they seem to have a good reputation. Im really happy with my X-Finity 2-Generation.

[zert]

could somebody add tybotech to the list of Tier 5 PSU's? they're real crap and comparable to Q-Tec Units

[kemo]

I have a simple question
Why do pople prefer the PCP&C TurboCool 1KW over the Enermax Galaxy 1KW?
As far as I know the TurboCool is noisy and run hot even when power switched off and yet people do prefer it.

[Bbq]

Because of the rail distribution. 5 rails on the Galaxy. One on the 1kw SR. That, and it's overall a higher quality build.

[kemo]

Mm I thought it was 3 rail but any way Galaxy got 2 rails for the CPU and 3 for the GPU and that will make up for the heat and noise

[tjelaw]

I'm having trouble deciding wether to get a Silvertone ZF or a Seasonic M12/S12. Ofcourse I have read the reviews and seen the recommended lists, I know they are both great performers.

What I'm looking for are long cables since im going to put it in a LianLi v2000 with the HD's in a 5.25" tray. I dont like messy cases so I want them to be long enough to guide them neatly through the case. Does anyone know which has longer cables, the silverstone's or the seasonics ?

Performance wise I would like the one that gives the cleanest power, effeciency comes after that.

[phelan1777]

I'm having trouble deciding wether to get a Silvertone ZF or a Seasonic M12/S12. Ofcourse I have read the reviews and seen the recommended lists, I know they are both great performers.

What I'm looking for are long cables since im going to put it in a LianLi v2000 with the HD's in a 5.25" tray. I dont like messy cases so I want them to be long enough to guide them neatly through the case. Does anyone know which has longer cables, the silverstone's or the seasonics ?

Performance wise I would like the one that gives the cleanest power, effeciency comes after that.

I have said SS and the cables are quite long, can't measure then off hand, but if you are willing to wait a day or so I can get you measurements.

[tjelaw]

I have said SS and the cables are quite long, can't measure then off hand, but if you are willing to wait a day or so I can get you measurements.

I take it (from ur other thread) u mean the Silverstone ZF? If you could measure them, yes please thnx.

BTW: I notice that ur PSU has most/all the cables sleeved.... while jonny's review unit here http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=36 cleary isnt that fancy. They are both the same model right? Silverstone 750ZF.

Did you sleeve your unit yourself? Or maybe its a newer revision?

[phelan1777]

I take it (from ur other thread) u mean the Silverstone ZF? If you could measure them, yes please thnx.

BTW: I notice that ur PSU has most/all the cables sleeved.... while jonny's review unit here http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=36 cleary isnt that fancy. They are both the same model right? Silverstone 750ZF.

Did you sleeve your unit yourself? Or maybe its a newer revision?

It came sleeved, so unless he stripped the sleeving, or got one before they started sleeving them. I bought mine from Directron.com because it was the cheapest price for the PSU, I think Perkam gave me the link to it.

Check there and see if its still 170$-/+ S&H

[ahpaul82]

I would like to know this PSU is manufacturered by who ?

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op1000.htm



thanks.

[Bbq]

Seventeam built, so you know it's solid as a rock.

[TonyM16]

The Galaxy only had the excessive ripple when it was crossloaded. That's why the "recommended" graphc was pulled, but the score wasn't affected.

Please explain what that means. What si crossloaded? whats excessive ripple? and whats the recommended graphc? Really sorry about the newbness, I have never needed to look in to psu's before as I used to think they were the easiest buy, now I see it differentley ever since I went dual gpu.

I am really confused. I have a 8800gtx sli system with high end components already but I just don't know what psu to go with. I had a tagan 1100watt as I assumed that would be the best, but it didn't work out for me. One it had broken sata cables (which also double up as four pin molexs with an adapter) , two it's leads have fat faces and my 680i and 8800gtx doesn't have much clearance around it's power ports causing me great hassle. Third , I have noticed that when setting voltage on my board it is actually lower in windows but thsi could just be a normal part of my bios and so is probably nothing as lots of boards undervolt fr safety.

I live in the Uk and we don't get Zippy or PC power so I have been looking at the Enermax Galaxy 1000watt. A review on this German sire shows it's very good and much better than what I had ie the tagan.

But you are making me worried now. The only other psu in the tier one brand in the UK is the Silverstone 850watt, but it's very rare and is only available at one shop whom I don't like shopping with.

What should I do. Please get back to me. I really hate having to to hold back with my PC while I figure out the psu situation.

Also great list, I found it very helpful, but alot of the brands are just non existent in my neck of the woods.

I am doing big overclocks , but only have one 15gb raptor at the moment. I do want a psu that will last me, but we all know that usually isn't the case so getting the best for the job is probably more sensible.

Thank you.

PS. Please feel free to PM me if it is easier for you.

PSS. Although I have asked Johnny specifically I would welcome any feedback on my questions/dilemma, I want as much informations as humanely possible. I am like a sponge right now , ready to soak up knowledge.

EDIT:

I just found a Silverstone olympia 1000 for sale, is it better than an Enermax Galaxy. It's cheaper so that makes me wonder if it's better? WHat should I do? That shop doesn't have many and they are the only shop in the UK that has them.

[jonnyGURU]

If you take a PSU and you load up one rail (like the +12V) to the max and only load another rail (like the 3.3V or 5V) to the bare minimum, that's considered a "cross load."

This is why you see some PSU's with a "minimum load requirement" on them.

[TonyM16]

If you take a PSU and you load up one rail (like the +12V) to the max and only load another rail (like the 3.3V or 5V) to the bare minimum, that's considered a "cross load."

This is why you see some PSU's with a "minimum load requirement" on them.

Thanks. I see that won't be an issue for me then or will it? I will have an overlocked E6600, 2gb memory and a 680i board , but only one Raptor HD.

I have read that the Silverstone Olympia ia one of the very best if you don't include Zippy and PCP+C . How much better is it than a 1000watt Galaxy.

The reason being is I don't want a loud PC either and I read somewhere that the Olypmpia is very loud and the Galaxy is alot quieter. See what I mean about confused, they don't make it easy to decide.

SO keeping in mind noise and stability and reliability along with max power/future proofing who should I go with the Silverstone of Galaxy. the silverstone is marginally cheaper, but the Galaxy sound slike it will much more quiter and should be stable enough for me as I am not ever gonna have a 4ghz conroe.

EDIT: Damn no Silverstone Olypmia for me. The shop were lieing they don't really have any they were just showing what the could have if they were a real shop.

[Circaflex]

I am upgrading my powersupply. I have been looking at the 1K and the Silencer 750W. Is the extra 12A and 350W justifiable for the extra 300 dollars? Or will a 750W Silencer with 60A be able to handle future quad core and dual gpu solutions? Or am i better off getting the 1KW? Silence is awesome, but if theres really that big of a leap thats worthwhile i might get it. Or would the OP1000 be my best choice?

[gr8golf]

Am I reading the list right? It appears that the Silverstone modular PS units are in Tier 3. These are the Enhance built products. Are they really that low? JonnyGuru gave the ST75F Strider I'm contemplating buying a "9" rating and the price on this PS is awesome - ($138 shipped)!

http://deadeyedata.com/shop/index.ph...products_id=95

JonnyGuru also gave the Corsair HX620 a "9" rating and it can be had for $120 shipped:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...270718&loc=101

I'm looking for a modular PS, either 750W / 850W, nearly silent, with good aesthetics (cable sleeving), capability to run 8800 GTS SLI *maybe GTX SLI?*, and the cheaper the better. The Seasonic M12 700W looks great, but it's almost $200. Hey JonnyGuru - if you were buying a PSU with those previous requirements, which one would you buy?

[Kasparz]

Got today FSP pnf 400w from customer and compared to my Antec truepower 550w eps12. Must say, fsp rails are jumping on every mouse click, while antec stay on 12.05 idle and 12.07 3d loaded. Antec might worse than tier 2 because of bad caps, but then fsp should be below Antec. On same system fsp lines fluctuate from 12.2v-12.4v while Antec stays within 12.05-12.07v. Measured with DMM.
I have Silverstone Strider on way, so ill do compare again.

[_33]

Thermaltake Toughpower 600

It should be classified in the Tier 2 with the other 650 watts 750 watts 850 watts models, as they are from the same design, surely not with the 550 watts model classified in the Tier 3.

Thermaltake Toughpower >= 600