ASUS P5W DH Deluxe vs. Gigabyte GA P965 DS3 - final verdict

[cupholder2.0]

Go gigabyte! Kick some overpriced asus .

[OV3RCLOCK3R]

Excellent review K.I.T.T.

Gigabyte looks to be a excellent motherboard.

Oh yeh K.I.T.T - Can you please add me to msn please. Need some help please. Thanks

[PcCI2iminal]

Go gigabyte! Kick some overpriced asus .

Asus is expensive cz she needs to be

DS3 is really good but.....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=124

i need to do more tests to confirm

[cupholder2.0]

lol, yeah I know the ASUS board is probably better at higher FSBs and is overall a better OCer. Im just saying for the price, the DS3 really owns the P5W.

[Lestat]

lol, yeah I know the ASUS board is probably better at higher FSBs and is overall a better OCer. Im just saying for the price, the DS3 really owns the P5W.

NO its not a better oc'r not even close. not even close

you ahve to mod the sh|t out of that board to get anywhere..

[cupholder2.0]

NO its not a better oc'r not even close. not even close

you ahve to mod the sh|t out of that board to get anywhere..

Only at lower multiplier does the DS3 really shine...maybe new bios will fix that for the DS3?

[Absolute_0]

Asus is expensive cz she needs to be

DS3 is really good but.....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=124

i need to do more tests to confirm

That seems to contradict KITT's results. Time will tell.

You think it is only at very high FSB that the P5W shines?

[cupholder2.0]

Either way, its pretty sad that a 240 dollar ASUS 975 board is having difficulty competing with a 140 dollar Gigabyte lower end 965 board...

[PcCI2iminal]

That seems to contradict KITT's results. Time will tell.

i will run a few more benchs and F.E.A.R.

You think it is only at very high FSB that the P5W shines?

Dolby Master Studio
8 Phase Power
CF/SLI
very friendly with OC
and Asus knows how to build an Intel board.

[ArcTan]

Uh huh. That's what I'm saying bro!!

These things rock!!

Priming at 460 x 7 as i type

you need to max it out
mine's already prime stable at 461x7 and that's where I've stopped so far

[Tallman]

Where are you all getting these boards from? A certain vendor?
Have you tried ..say... a 805D on one?

[AndrewZorn]

well, i got the P5W... mostly based on the trusted brand, higher AVERAGE OC (and no rumors/examples of problems with 4mb CPUs), and fancy/useless features like the remote and 8phase power.

[burningrave101]

well, i got the P5W... mostly based on the trusted brand, higher AVERAGE OC (and no rumors/examples of problems with 4mb CPUs), and fancy/useless features like the remote and 8phase power.

What phase power is the DS3? The DQ6 is 12 phase although i doubt that it makes much difference with overclocking. I would say once a few BIOS updates roll out the Asus P5B and P5W will prove to be a little better overclockers. There is a new 0403 BIOS for the P5B that allows it to go to 500MHz.

[thunderstruck!]

What phase power is the DS3? The DQ6 is 12 phase although i doubt that it makes much difference with overclocking. I would say once a few BIOS updates roll out the Asus P5B and P5W will prove to be a little better overclockers. There is a new 0403 BIOS for the P5B that allows it to go to 500MHz.

The new BIOS simply creates the option to select up to 500FSB in the BIOS, but don't expect to boot at that speed.

[thunderstruck!]

This board is $140 at mwave. How many revisions of this board exist? Just C1?

I don't suppose any other boards will be released 7/23 or 7/24, since XIPs here always have the ES samples first and there hasn't been anything new yet. That said, this looks like a good stable placeholder for something 2 months down the road in September, when mature and OC superior boards will be released, such as DFI. Also, this doesn't seem to randomly die after 2 weeks like the P5W and BadAxe.

[Tallman]

I am sorry, I meant where are people getting the DS3's from?
A certain vendor or variety of places?
And has anyone who owns a DS3 tried a 805D in it?

[thunderstruck!]

I am sorry, I meant where are people getting the DS3's from?
A certain vendor or variety of places?
And has anyone who owns a DS3 tried a 805D in it?

DS3 are available in every store, no secret.

[AndrewZorn]

while the DS3 is a great buy i really dont like switching motherboards (especially if the P5W will reach 440ish, thats all i really need it to) and i didnt want to regret my decision, thats why i got P5W...

kind of a shame that its hard to decide on the better one when the asus costs like what 70% more?

[thunderstruck!]

while the DS3 is a great buy i really dont like switching motherboards (especially if the P5W will reach 440ish, thats all i really need it to) and i didnt want to regret my decision, thats why i got P5W...

kind of a shame that its hard to decide on the better one when the asus costs like what 70% more?

Quite the contrary. It makes it easier to decide. Both mobos hit 440fsb no mods. Then consider this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...lts&pollid=731, and you have a winner. The only reason I see to go for the P5W is for the rich goodies, or if you plan on keeping it, instead of just using it while waiting for better boards to come out in August and September.

[AndrewZorn]

i plan on keeping it

BUT

ive seen FAR more problems with >400fsb on E66+ than i have seen >400fsb on E66+.

also the death statistics... consider the nature of statistics
if you do a poll where which dies more, civics or ferrari, youre going to see more civics. does that mean civic is less reliable? no. in this case, the test is thrown because more people have civics.
just like almost everyone with a conroe here has a P5W, with only a few gigabyte owners. also the gigabyte hasnt been out near as long. ALSO people like to mod the hell out of their P5Ws.

EDIT and the DS3 isnt even on that list anyway

EDIT and theres also the way in which you are only going to report failure if your board fails; everyone with a working and reliable board isnt going to resort to forums to tell everyone how awesome it is. hell i do the same thing... youll hear more out of me about what DOESNT work than what does work

EDIT it also appears there are a few people marking the P5W because it was DOA and/or didnt support the conroe with default bios

not meaning to argue or anything
just noting that the P5W isnt necessarily unreliable because there are a lot of reported deaths

[ScottFern]

Wow great thread KITT! You are my new xtremesystems hero.

Now I need to decide if I want this mobo or wait out the Intel 590 board. I don't need SLi and this board reaches 440fsb so I can't really even find a reason not to get it over the ASUS. The price is very reasonable and they are in stock.

To me this is a no brainer. DS3

[The Asgard]

The DS4 looks the better bet for just £10 more.

[Tallman]

DS3 are available in every store, no secret.

OK, I guess I need to clarify myself.
I know they are available in many places. I was just wondering if these high clocking boards are a fluke that all came from the same place or something. Nothing more. Simple.

Also, again, anyone try an 805D in one?

Thanks

[ScottFern]

The DS4 looks the better bet for just £10 more.

If you don't need SLi and reapply some AS5 to the SB and NB heatsinks I think it should be fine?

[The Asgard]

If you don't need SLi and reapply some AS5 to the SB and NB heatsinks I think it should be fine?

The cooling goes without saying but I'm hoping for some better power regulation for higher clocks. I have a couple arriving tommorrow. I also have a 6300 & 6600 on pre order and I have no idea when they will arrive.