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Thread: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe vs. Gigabyte GA P965 DS3 - final verdict

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    ASUS P5W DH Deluxe vs. Gigabyte GA P965 DS3 - final verdict

    Originally posted at www.maxitmag.com



    A big thanks to Dan at maXit, who sent the board out to me. Without his help, this would not have been possible.


    There's been a debate over which board is faster clock/clock. Most say the ASUS is faster, wheras others firmly believe nothing seperates the 2.

    I've taken the liberty to run a series of tests on both boards and publish the results for the benefit of the general public.

    These are the tests I decided to run:

    3D Mark 06 (Default settings)

    3D Mark 2001 SE (Default settings)

    Aquamark 3 (Default settings)

    Super Pi 32M (Realtime priority)

    F.E.A.R. Multiplayer Demo version 1.02 (Computer - High ; Graphics - custom : 1152 x 864, Everything on maximum, no soft shadows, 4 x AA, 16 x AF
    )

    All tests were run at 2 settings on both boards:


    a) stock - 266 x 7 (1866 MHz), DDR2 667, 3-3-3-10

    b) overclocked - 400 x 7 (2800 MHz), DDR2 800, 4-4-4-10

    Hardware used was:

    ASUS P5W DH Deluxe and Gigabyte GA-P965-DS3 motherboards

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 ES (Allendale 2 MB L2 Cache)
    2 x 1 GB Team Xtreem PC2 5300 RAM 3-4-4-8
    256MB Connect 3D X1800XT
    Maxtor DiamondMax10 80 GB HDD
    NEC ND 3500 AG DVD-RW drive
    Antec Truepower 2.0 550W EPS 12v PSU


    Stock Cooling was used throughout.

    OS: Clean Install of XP Pro SP2 was used with each board
    Graphics Drivers: ATi Catalyst 6.6 official

    The X1800XT was run at stock speeds for each test.

    Results:

    Stock Speeds

    3DM2001 SE

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    3DM06

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    Aquamark 3

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    Super Pi 32M

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    F.E.A.R.

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    Overclocked


    3DM2001 SE

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    3DM06

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    Aquamark 3

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    Super Pi 32M

    ASUS


    Gigabyte


    F.E.A.R.

    ASUS


    Gigabyte





    This took me quite some time to do, and I hope it is of use to you.

    Cheers,
    Ash

    PS:

    Pic of my testbed

    Last edited by K.I.T.T.; 07-30-2006 at 12:50 AM.
    The rig
    CPUs: E6300 ES B0 @ 3220 MHz w/1.35v orthos stable | E6600 B2 @ 3400 MHz w/1.43v --> Sold | Xeon 3050 L2 @ 3304 MHz w/1.45v orthos stable
    MoBo: Asus P5K-E WiFi-AP @ 520 x * orthos stable
    Graphics: 256 MB Connect 3D Radeon X1900XT @ 661/828 (core/mem)
    RAM: 2 x 1 GB Team Xtreem PC2 5300 @ DDR1010 4-4-4-8 / DDR1100 5-5-5-12 w/2.25v orthos stable
    HDDs: 300 GB (16 MB Cache) and 80 GB Maxtor Diamondmax 10 drives
    Optical: NEC ND3500AG DVD +/- RW
    PSU: Antec True Power 2.0 550W
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    very good stuff, the asus gets spanked the 32m oc'ed result is a bit weird though..

    anyway, thnx for giving me another reason not to buy asus
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    Very nice, thanks a lot!

    Seems the Gigabyte will be the best choice for a gamer, until the RD500/600's and NF590's can be considered.

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    Interesting results, nice work!

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    Nice test. So at stock speed the Gigabyte was faster in SuperPI, OC'd the Asus was faster?
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    i'm puzzled by that 32M OC result

    Anus clearly gets spanked in majority of benchmarks except for that particular one..........can you rerun it pls and also can you play with voltages.......it would also be interesting to see other OC settings and results in 32M......really strange result

    i'm really glad i got the Gigacrap as one first allendale/conroe board now
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    Quote Originally Posted by kman540
    Nice test. So at stock speed the Gigabyte was faster in SuperPI, OC'd the Asus was faster?
    yep...i found that very strange but i tested twice on each board and got the same results....

    Ah well...

    EDIT: @dinos...

    reran Pi 3 times, with the same result (1-2 sec difference)

    The rig
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    Graphics: 256 MB Connect 3D Radeon X1900XT @ 661/828 (core/mem)
    RAM: 2 x 1 GB Team Xtreem PC2 5300 @ DDR1010 4-4-4-8 / DDR1100 5-5-5-12 w/2.25v orthos stable
    HDDs: 300 GB (16 MB Cache) and 80 GB Maxtor Diamondmax 10 drives
    Optical: NEC ND3500AG DVD +/- RW
    PSU: Antec True Power 2.0 550W
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    When overclocked boot the same bootsrtap and fsb ??

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    Awesome. DS3 FTW.
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    don't know about the bootstrap.

    the only thing i changed was the FSB.
    The rig
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    MoBo: Asus P5K-E WiFi-AP @ 520 x * orthos stable
    Graphics: 256 MB Connect 3D Radeon X1900XT @ 661/828 (core/mem)
    RAM: 2 x 1 GB Team Xtreem PC2 5300 @ DDR1010 4-4-4-8 / DDR1100 5-5-5-12 w/2.25v orthos stable
    HDDs: 300 GB (16 MB Cache) and 80 GB Maxtor Diamondmax 10 drives
    Optical: NEC ND3500AG DVD +/- RW
    PSU: Antec True Power 2.0 550W
    H2O
    Swiftech MCR220-QP | Laing D5 | AquaXtreme MP-05 Pro LE | DangerDen Maze 4 LP | 2 x 120mm NoiseBlocker SX1 fans
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    Great tests, thanks.
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    very nice job you did there.

    I found the SuperPi overclocked result strange, but beside that it look to be constant. Gigabyte is faster. (or maybe more the 965P is faster)
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    Did you run Super PI 1m on both setups or just the 32m test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
    don't know about the bootstrap.

    the only thing i changed was the FSB.
    see that's where the key maybe at <400fsb the gigabyte might have tighter internal latencies especially at 266fsb look at AM3 cpu score differences

    also seems 3dmark06 the key diff is much higher cpu score component on Gigabyte board

    shame gigabyte board doesn't work properly with memset to see all the timings

    I haven't tried either of these boards so all just guessing heh
    Last edited by eva2000; 07-22-2006 at 05:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
    yep...i found that very strange but i tested twice on each board and got the same results....

    Ah well...

    EDIT: @dinos...

    reran Pi 3 times, with the same result (1-2 sec difference)

    interesting.......well i'm an SPI freak so i won't rest easy until i figure that part out......i'll do must bit on Tuesday next week
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    Really good test!

    Tks!

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    Really strange 32pi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000

    same gigabyte board doesn't work properly with memset to see all the timings
    how would you explain the SPI times while OCd if gigabyte had the advantage but lost pretty badly there
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    KITT what cooler was on Conroe ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22
    how would you explain the SPI times while OCd if gigabyte had the advantage but lost pretty badly there
    look in screenies task bar area - alot of background apps open , any apps could attribute to slower times...

    probably have to run each test 3 times within same session of windows and average them for better indictation
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    He says: Stock Cooling was used throughout.

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    Thanks for you time and effort K.I.T.T.

    You have really done eeryone @ XS a great service, thankyou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper
    KITT what cooler was on Conroe ?
    I believe he said "Stock Cooling was used throughout"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper
    KITT what cooler was on Conroe ?
    Quote Originally Posted by KITT
    Stock Cooling was used throughout.
    i think it was stock, unless he was talking about the graf card.
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    Good job kitt
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    nice test

    I'm glad I went with the Gigabyte
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