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    Quote Originally Posted by FusionZ06
    I was in the same boat as you and what was weird the more I OC'd the better my temps got very weird I now average 39-40 idle and 47-50 load. Never higher...even with an ambient of almost 80f
    Nice. Can I ask what your BIOS settings were for your stable OC? I can't get anyone to give me a straight answer. And it doesn't help that the P5B Deluxe's 'Auto' doesn't tell you what the stock levels really are so it's hard to adjust ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andypro1
    Nice. Can I ask what your BIOS settings were for your stable OC? I can't get anyone to give me a straight answer. And it doesn't help that the P5B Deluxe's 'Auto' doesn't tell you what the stock levels really are so it's hard to adjust ;(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andypro1
    CPU Model: Core 2 Duo E6600 OEM
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    I agree that Core Temp can't be trusted.
    i get this with 0,1V undervolted 6600 and boxed cooler. so if your is stock vcore, this is realistic. why should it be false ? your heatpipes don't get hot ? check for physics book for further information or the other thread. The heatpipes can NOT get hot when the core don't even gets 60°C.

    my HS is also only warm when i get 58°C dual prime, but my temps are right.(i know it for sure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowRun
    Because it doesn't tell people what they wan't

    I don't have C2D but CoreTemp seems pretty accurate about my Opty, can't see why it wouldn't be with C2Ds.
    CoreTemp on my X2 3800+ Manchester @2.6GHz is only 57-60C w/stock cooler. I'm running stock volts on this E6400 @2.66 and 76C seems way too hot.

    According to this the C2D should be cooler than similarly clocked AMD X2s (HKEPC used a thermometer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLB
    CoreTemp on my X2 3800+ Manchester @2.6GHz is only 57-60C w/stock cooler. I'm running stock volts on this E6400 @2.66 and 76C seems way too hot.

    According to this the C2D should be cooler than similarly clocked AMD X2s (HKEPC used a thermometer).
    amd proccys at 60c are considered extremely hot... they can take 65... then boom
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    I'm running a D975XBX with an E6400 @3.0GHz with Vdimm @1.9v and all other settings at stock. With EIST and C1E disabled, my temps are 36C-38C at idle and 50C-52C under full load. Here is the catch, however, temps in IDCC equals temps in Everest equals temps in SpeedFan equals temps in Core Temp. That just can't be coincidence. Even if so, if any app told me that my CPU temp was at 70C or above, I don't see how I could bring myself to ignore such a report. Even if wrong, it couldn't hurt to reduce the temp to a more reasonable level. My processor is too important to take a risk like that. But, that is IMHO, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kango
    I'm running a D975XBX with an E6400 @3.0GHz with Vdimm @1.9v and all other settings at stock. With EIST and C1E disabled, my temps are 36C-38C at idle and 50C-52C under full load. Here is the catch, however, temps in IDCC equals temps in Everest equals temps in SpeedFan equals temps in Core Temp. That just can't be coincidence. Even if so, if any app told me that my CPU temp was at 70C or above, I don't see how I could bring myself to ignore such a report. Even if wrong, it couldn't hurt to reduce the temp to a more reasonable level. My processor is too important to take a risk like that. But, that is IMHO, of course.

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    CPU Model: Core 2 Duo E6600 Retail week24
    CPU Clockspeed: 3.3ghz (Prime Stable
    CPU Voltage: 1.425 (actual~1.41 - drops to ~1.39-1.4 under load)
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    Fan: stock 92mm (1800rpm idle - 2800rpm load w/ speedfan)
    Idle/Load: 32C/47C (CoreTemp reads 48'C idle - but whatever!)
    NB:39-40 idle - 42 load

    With all my case and cpu fans maxed I get 27'c idle, 44'c load - NB constant 32'c! At stock speeds and voltages idle 22'c load 34'C.

    This chip certainly runs cool at default, but it certainly needs loads juice to get to high speeds. o/c to 3ghz at default volts was easy - but to get to 3.3 had to go up over .1v!! Would go at 3.6 at 1.525 but theres no way id run 24/7 at that!

    Biggest problem I found is the fluctuation in vcore. Certainly with the p5w. The variance in value was up to over .03v, which covers three voltage selections in the mobo. Cpu is actually stable at 1.38v, but to account for voltage drops, I had to set it at 1.425!! :-(

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    Is it true that all stepping 5 Conroe's report temps 10 degrees higher than they actually are?

    Looking at all the Stepping 6 retail results here, that would certainly seem to be the case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNV
    depends on a number of factors I guess.

    If your room temp and airflow is good, but heatsink is hot then it means your heatsink being pushed to the limit.

    If room temp, airflow and heatsink is good, but heatsink is cold and CPU is hot, then its likely you don't have enough/too much paste or the heatsink isn't fitting well.
    yea bad fitting will have temps jump though like 5-7c in no time and then some more, cuz it's gunna keep going. my bet is a combo of seating and thermal compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spug
    CPU Model: Core 2 Duo E6600 Retail week24
    CPU Clockspeed: 3.3ghz (Prime Stable
    CPU Voltage: 1.425 (actual~1.41 - drops to ~1.39-1.4 under load)
    Motherboard: Asus P5WDH-1001
    Heatsink/Block: Arctic Freezer 7 Pro w/ AS5
    Fan: stock 92mm (1800rpm idle - 2800rpm load w/ speedfan)
    Idle/Load: 32C/47C (CoreTemp reads 48'C idle - but whatever!)
    NB:39-40 idle - 42 load
    lol. yeah you are right and my mommy was on the moon with armstrong.

    what does it give to you to tell such BS values here ? 32°C idle or even better 27°C idle with all running, hahaha. you are a king. your cpu don't produced heat at all. congratulation. you get better values then people get with good water cooling.

    even better : at stock speed you only have 22°C ? plz tell us what your ambient is. wait let me guess : -273,15°C better knows as 0 Kelvin ?

    i'll better leave this thread. Such lies make me sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realsmasher
    lol. yeah you are right and my mommy was on the moon with armstrong.

    what does it give to you to tell such BS values here ? 32°C idle or even better 27°C idle with all running, hahaha. you are a king. your cpu don't produced heat at all. congratulation. you get better values then people get with good water cooling.

    even better : at stock speed you only have 22°C ? plz tell us what your ambient is. wait let me guess : -273,15°C better knows as 0 Kelvin ?

    i'll better leave this thread. Such lies make me sick.
    A bit uncalled for?

    My 3700+ @ 2.8GHz idles @ 25C with an ambient temperature of 19C (65-66F w/ AC), I think it's possible that he idles at 27C, at least I give him the benefit of the doubt.
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    nah, coretemp is way wrong, it's not even warm and reporting 53C idle at stock volts, 5 remounts razer blade smooth AS5. stepping 6 week 24 e6400

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLB
    A bit uncalled for?

    My 3700+ @ 2.8GHz idles @ 25C with an ambient temperature of 19C (65-66F w/ AC), I think it's possible that he idles at 27C, at least I give him the benefit of the doubt.
    doesn't dual core get more heat than single ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLB
    A bit uncalled for?

    My 3700+ @ 2.8GHz idles @ 25C with an ambient temperature of 19C (65-66F w/ AC), I think it's possible that he idles at 27C, at least I give him the benefit of the doubt.
    look at this plz(even if its german, you see the pics) and then compare amd and c2d again

    http://www.hardtecs4u.com/reviews/20...hme/index5.php

    plz keep in mind : 22°C(yes he said 22°C) is superb less then 25°C for air cooling and 19°C ambient is pretty cold. now look at the pics and you see : c2d creates 4 times the amount of heat of a 3800+. you really think his temps are realistic ?
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    ...whatever...

    Well.you guys can say what u want! Im going on the MB sensor readings...like I have for the past 9 years since Ive been overclocking! My 2.4c idled at 33'C and that puppy was clocked to 3.4 with a .05v increase....so why cant a 65nm cpu do it the same...and lower!

    well...they say the proof is in the pudding......so here ya go!

    ...at idle - no system fans, cpu fan 1800rpm:



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    ...at idle - all fans max:



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    ...at load - cpu fan only 2800rpm:



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    Spug I'm telling you that AISuite and Probe are wacked. Core temp seems to be the only thing giving me accurate results.

    Do you honestly think you are only at 25c...That means your CPU is running at 77f and you would have to be in a room roughly 60f to be accurate. The fact of the matter is they do produce heat. Don't be niave into thinking that 25c is correct.

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    That's exactly my problem

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    Load
    http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/load.jpg

    Looks like Core Temp is reading off Temp3 sensor.. which I have no idea what is.
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    ....Fusion...Im not being naive....truthfully do I think that its at 25'C w/1.4v @3.3ghz - well...highly unlikely....but there's nothing really better to go on. Just because you think that the temps in core temp are closer to what u think they should be, doesnt mean they are more right than any other reading.

    temp values of cpus have always been taken from a sensor under the socket...why do we have to start only believing sensors within the cpu cores are the readings that we can go on - just because we are getting low temps?!

    ....I have noticed that core temp values are certainly not linear with their readings, comparative to increases and decreases in temp from other reading programs, and coupled with the things Ive read around here with sudden large jumps in temp when slightly increasing voltage, certainly leads me to not trust it.

    Realistically, no one would question me saying that my 90nm 2.4c clocked at 3.4 w/1.575 volts going through it idles at 34'c......so what is to say that a 60nm cpu with speedstep enabled and ~1.15v going through it at default speed cant be 10-12'c lower........??!!

    ..its all relative anywayz....these are my readings, ...u know what progs give what readings......so people can fairly compare...

    take what u want from it!!

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    Well, it's your system and you can believe whatever temp reading you want. Only wishful thinking would make me believe that the lowest temp is the correct temp. Two things to keep in mind though, 1) No way will you CPU ever be at or below ambient. Period. (we are discussing air cooling and not water, right?) 2) If you decide to trust the higher reading, no matter what the source, where is the problem? Trust the higher reading and maybe save your CPU.

    I know this temp thing keeps coming up over and over again. I think where the problem occurred was with the introduction of two new thermal diodes in the Core 2 Duo product line. One in each core and one in the package (same as in the previous generation, Presler, products). Now we have almost too many options and no real way of knowing which one is correct. In my case, it's easy. Every program reads the same value (+/-2C). No issue there. But I can certainly understand people wanting to believe the lower readings. Whichever one you decide to trust, best of luck from...

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    CPU Model: E6400 Stepping 6
    CPU Clockspeed: 2.14GHz
    CPU Voltage: 1.213 (CPU-Z)
    Motherboard: Intel D975XBX Bad Axe
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    Fan: stock (45CFM)
    Idle/Load: 43/59 - 43/59
    Ambient: 21
    Utility Reading Temps: Core Temp - BIOS/Intel control center


    I know many have discussed this, and I *HAVE* used the search function, but it seems it hasn't been definitively answered;
    Specifically, the issue with Bad Axe reported CPU temps....


    Using Intel's BIOS and utilities, and Core Temp, I get an idle temperature of the low to mid 40s and a load temp in the upper 50's; this is on stock. My system temps are also reported as 35C and 39C (two sensors).

    This seems amazingly high considering that in the exact same case, with the exact same fans, I had an ABIT IC7-G Max II Advance with an overclocked and overvolted Pentium 4 Northwood; the system temp was reported as 29-33C, the CPU idle was 39-42C, and the load was 59-62C. This was using an old MCX heatsink that was inferior to the current AC Freezer 7 Pro I'm using.

    In fact, I'd heard that the IC7-G reported temps a bit higher than they really were.

    How can it be that a CPU running at a higher voltage and using an inferior heatsink have lower idle and load temps than this Core 2 Duo???
    These temps *can't* be correct, can they?

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    CPU Model: E6600 Stepping 6
    CPU Clockspeed: 2.40GHz
    CPU Voltage: 1.212 (CPU-Z)
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    Idle/Load: 43/59C - 32/48C
    Ambient: 21
    Utility Reading Temps: Core Temp/Everest - BIOS/Gigabyte Easytune 5

    I have been reading threads all over this board lately and noone seems to be able to come up with a 100% reliable reading.

    According to the intel site http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...x?sSpec=SL9S8#

    the max temp for this chip is 60.1C yet the tech support where i bought this system reckon they can get up to 90C.

    I don't overclock but i do a lot of video/graphic encoding and I doubt anything stresses a system more than running cinemacraft encoder for several hours non-stop. I need a reliable machine yet one has to wonder how long it will last sitting on 58C (IF core temp/everest are to be believed).

    Hmm I need to find someone with a thermal heat gun to read the actual cpu itself. Meanwhile I'll just enjoy the power.

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    FYI I stuck a fan really close to my NB and wow my MB temps went down about 7c! My NB is now around 34-35 as oppsed to 42!

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    Quote Originally Posted by therat
    CPU Model: E6600 Stepping 6
    CPU Clockspeed: 2.40GHz
    CPU Voltage: 1.212 (CPU-Z)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
    BIOS Version: F4
    Heatsink/Block: Stock
    Fan: stock
    Idle/Load: 43/59C - 32/48C
    Ambient: 21
    Utility Reading Temps: Core Temp/Everest - BIOS/Gigabyte Easytune 5

    I have been reading threads all over this board lately and noone seems to be able to come up with a 100% reliable reading.

    According to the intel site http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...x?sSpec=SL9S8#

    the max temp for this chip is 60.1C yet the tech support where i bought this system reckon they can get up to 90C.

    I don't overclock but i do a lot of video/graphic encoding and I doubt anything stresses a system more than running cinemacraft encoder for several hours non-stop. I need a reliable machine yet one has to wonder how long it will last sitting on 58C (IF core temp/everest are to be believed).

    Hmm I need to find someone with a thermal heat gun to read the actual cpu itself. Meanwhile I'll just enjoy the power.

    rat
    u mean u want a laser temp probe?
    wont work... if u have a heatsink u cant measure ur cpu, and if u have a cpu u cant not have a heatsink
    58c is fine... intel is saying a bunch of bs... 60c max??? thats lower than amd
    the actual max is more around 70-75
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