HELLO IN HERE! no one doing tecs anymore

[littleowl]

I just thought something needed to be put in here because it has gotten really quiet in this section! I have my tec running good and it looks like no one else is tecing

[Reefa_Madness]

Not quite true.

I've actually been buying some parts and doing alot of reading because I want to give this a shot. Anothe fellow, Super Nade, has also just bought parts so there are still a few around with an interest.

Might have to contact you with some questions about that cold plate that you made not too long ago. How's that working out for you?

[[XC] MarioMaster]

well i'm afraid people have left tecs to either stick with standard aircooling or watercooling, or made the jump to phase - tecs are fairly diffucult to work with and can be quite expensive to setup, especially when the possibility exists that you could risk breaking your $$$ processor / whatever is being cooled

[billdavis]

waiting for swiftech to get the kits in

so when that happens you`ll see alot of questions from me
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[n00b 0f l337]

especially when the possibility exists that you could risk breaking your $$$ processor / whatever is being cooled

That exists with even the most basic of coolings.

[littleowl]

My cold plate seems to be doing great!! I am happy with it but I have not found anything other then a probe to be able to check the temp! mbm will not read it and the uGuru doesn't read it!! Every thing I have stays at 0.00 I need to get a probe in there to see what it really is! It is running so I just don't really want to mess with it yet! Ask away I am happy to help now that I know enough to say I understand it very well!!

Not quite true.

I've actually been buying some parts and doing alot of reading because I want to give this a shot. Anothe fellow, Super Nade, has also just bought parts so there are still a few around with an interest.

Might have to contact you with some questions about that cold plate that you made not too long ago. How's that working out for you?

[littleowl]

Bring it on bill, we like to help other people on here!!

waiting for swiftech to get the kits in

so when that happens you`ll see alot of questions from me

[littleowl]

Mario and nol are both very correct! I think that most don't want to deal with tecs because it takes a little more patience and is more thought driven! You don't have to worry as much on a phase change or a chiller!! That is just my

[Praxis1452]

Well since this thread was open anyway. Just asking this cause I was wondering... Is there a limit to how low a TEC can go? Cause if people who used Phase Change used TEC's couldn't they go lower than they could normally? I mean if someone uses a chiller and keeps the TEC at 0C wouldn't the TEC go -40C to -50C or something. I know it depends on the heatload but...

[[XC] MarioMaster]

you need to check the peltier's specifications, some can cool lower than others, i believe the measurement you are looking for is the delta T reading, or the maximum temperature differential it can create

[Praxis1452]

Nah the differential I understand. The maximum is 69C. But what I'm wondering is if people use TEC's with phase change or chillers. Cause if you cooled the TEC low enough for example 0C then couldn't the cold side go to -69C well above that... For example
A regular chiller someone may get -15C?
If they used the TEC the TEC's hot side might = 0C then the cold side could be -50C give or take just an example.

[yngndrw]

I'll be joining the TEC group soon for my GPU. I just need to buy a PSU, finish off setting up my watercooling geat, and get a waterblock made.

[sluflyer06]

I used to TEC but they just don't have the capacity and haven't for awhile now. I used to run a 320watter on a s478 but even back then it couldn't hold up to the heat at full load during high overclocks and I ended up selling it and using normal water and got a better overclock without the TEC, never had condensation issues though even with idle cold plate temps below 0c.

now with my heat load in teh 230+ watt range, TEC is impossible.

but i did notice the mcw60t which I might buy, it looks GREAT! except with predictions of DX10 cards to consume large amounts of power, if true, they will have way too much heat load for the TEC.

[yngndrw]

I'll be using a 226Watt TEC on my 7800GTX .. I hope it will be enough.

[littleowl]

yngndrw I am sure the 226 will cool your 7800!! I was thinking about putting one on a 7900gt but decided that it would cost me too much to do it! I would have to buy the copper because I don't have a big enough piece laying here! If I did do it I would cool the ram as well and that is the part that kills me on price! I have the dd block but no copper for the heat transfer!!

[[XC] MarioMaster]

supercooling memory has been proven to do squat... better off just getting some standard ramsinks and save yourself the money

[n00b 0f l337]

0c hot side will get you far from -69C cold side. When you get very cold hot sides u can get only a tiny difference (like -40C hot, -41C cold) and less capacity.

[Praxis1452]

0c hot side will get you far from -69C cold side. When you get very cold hot sides u can get only a tiny difference (like -40C hot, -41C cold) and less capacity.

Ok so there is a limit to how cold they can become? Is there a way to determine it jw

[n00b 0f l337]

Not really, I'd say test it. THere are TEC's rated for colder hot sides though, but they are not readily available and generally used in lasers and such in stacked pelt setups.

[Praxis1452]

hmm, thanks for the info. When conroe comes out I'm building my entire computer and water cooling was in the budget but then I was thinking chiller+ TEC. I still might do TEC the only thing I find hard about it is the power supply's. If they weren't expensive and easier to find I would definetley do it but as of now I'm kinda undecided. Also instead of the regular storm I'd need something like the MCW6002 right?

[littleowl]

I beleave the storm is not big enough for a tec! I may be wrong!

[n00b 0f l337]

ITs an impingement block and is designed to cool a tiny area not a large one.

[sluflyer06]

storm would be a bad block for a TEC, the 6002 if you can fabricate a good mounting bracket for a cold plate would be the best choice IMO for a TEC cpu block. I believe the apogee is too small as well for TEC units...i think with 45nm conroe and amd parts TEC's will become very feasible.

[Praxis1452]

haven't bought my water cooling kit yet :-P. Just saying I might do TEC's when I build conroe.

[proth]

FWIW, Bought a MCW60-T a week ago and the element is bad already. Was only running it @ 14v and the spec is 19.